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		<title>How to forgive yourself</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[It’s easy to forgive other people because you don’t have to live inside their head. Forgiving yourself is different and much, much harder. Sean Illing is joined by philosopher Myisha Cherry to talk about what it actually means to forgive yourself without letting yourself off the hook. They discuss the difference between guilt and shame [&#8230;]]]></description>
		
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		<title>The revolution will be memed</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kalle Lasn has been trying to jam consumer culture for decades. Now he thinks that was only the beginning. Sean talks with the Adbusters founder about advertising, culture jamming, meme warfare, surveillance capitalism, and why he believes the old left-right political script is dead. Lasn argues that consumer culture is not just shallow or manipulative [&#8230;]]]></description>
		
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		<title>How A became A</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Gray Area is taking a short break this week — but we’ve got something special for you. We’re dropping an episode from one of our favorite podcasts, Unexplainable. In it, host Emily Siner explores deceptively simple questions: What is a musical note? And how did something as fundamental as the note A become standardized [&#8230;]]]></description>
		
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		<title>Why humans need to matter</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why do humans have this deep need to feel like we matter? Sean Illing talks with the philosopher Rebecca Goldstein about why “mattering” is not the same thing as being important, how the hunger for validation can go really, really badly, and the different ways we try to justify our lives to ourselves. Love. God.]]></description>
		
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		<title>A brief update on the AI apocalypse</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something is definitely happening in the AI world, but how seriously should we take it? Is this another hype cycle or a genuine inflection point? Sean Illing talks with journalist Kelsey Piper (formerly of Vox, now at The Argument) about what’s changed, why AI “agents” are a different beast than yesterday’s chatbots, and why the [&#8230;]]]></description>
		
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		<title>Consciousness is a mystery</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is consciousness, really? We don’t know. Scientists aren’t sure. Philosophers can’t agree. All we have is the fact that it feels like something to be you right now. Beyond that, human consciousness remains a complete mystery. Sean talks with Michael Pollan about his new book, A World Appears, which is about what we do [&#8230;]]]></description>
		
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		<title>The end of world order as we know it</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Venezuela. Greenland. Iran. Things have been moving so quickly that we weren&#8217;t even at war with Iran when we recorded this episode of The Gray Area with Sean Illing. It’s only March, but it’s been a long year. The war in Iran is only the latest sign that something deep is shifting in our global]]></description>
		
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		<title>Alone in a cage with cocaine</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Addiction is one of those words that seems obvious until you try to explain it. We tend to fall back on two simple stories. Either addiction is a moral failure or it’s a brain disease that robs people of agency entirely. But neither of those stories feels complete. Today’s guest is philosopher Hanna Pickard, author]]></description>
		
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		<title>Winging it in Iran</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2026 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What the hell just happened in Iran? The US launched an attack last weekend, and within hours, the explanations were already shifting. Is this regime change? Will it be a few days? A few months? Several years? By the time you’re listening to this, the situation may have moved again. So this is a quick,]]></description>
		
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		<title>Of course you&#8217;re anxious</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2026 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We use the word “anxiety” to describe stress, dread, worry, panic, even vibes. Which just goes to show: We really don’t know what anxiety is, or where it comes from, or what we’re supposed to do with it. Today’s guest is philosopher Samir Chopra, author of Anxiety: A Philosophical Guide. Chopra argues that anxiety is]]></description>
		
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		<title>Gen Z men have baby fever</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2026 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A lot of Gen Z men sound surprisingly excited about fatherhood. A lot of Gen Z women…do not. And that divide — and the national handwringing about it — says a lot about the changing status of men and women in this country, and the uncomfortable realization that for American policymakers, not all children are]]></description>
		
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		<title>Why mindfulness got weird</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mindfulness is everywhere now, which is kind of weird. What started as a countercultural practice has become a productivity hack and a billion-dollar app ecosystem. On one level, it’s great that more people are meditating. But somewhere along the way, the whole thing got flattened. When mindfulness is mainly about optimizing your output, we’ve probably]]></description>
		
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		<title>You’re right to bear arms</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2026 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sean talks to Atlantic writer Tyler Austin Harper about the killing of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis, and why liberals are missing the point about American gun culture and the right to bear arms. Beyond that, Tyler asks an important question: If you really believe we’re sliding toward authoritarianism, how can you argue that the public]]></description>
		
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		<title>Happy news from Sean </title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2026 16:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Gray Area with Sean Illing is now twice a week! Look for new episodes every Monday and Friday, here in your ears and at Youtube.com/vox for your eyes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices]]></description>
		
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		<title>The problem with gamifying life</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2026 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Games are fun. Aren’t they? When we play games — board games, video games, any kind of game — something magical happens. Games allow us to explore, to create little worlds where we can be different versions of ourselves. But when we turn life into a game — where we have to get the best]]></description>
		
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		<title>America is football</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2026 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why do we love football so much? Why does this sport dominate American culture in a way nothing else can? Why does it feel essential even to people who barely like sports? And what does it say about us that we keep watching, even as the risks and contradictions become harder to ignore? Today’s guest]]></description>
		
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		<title>How we built a government that can’t build anything</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2026 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why is it so hard for America to build things? Bridges take years to construct. Housing costs are soaring. Transit systems are crumbling. And we’re struggling to update our infrastructure to prepare for the climate crisis. Even when there’s broad agreement that something needs to be done, collective action feels impossible. Why is that? Today’s]]></description>
		
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		<title>It’s okay to not be okay</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It’s not always the most wonderful time of the year. Every December, we’re told to be merry and stay positive. But a lot of us don’t feel that way. And when we don’t, the pressure to be happy makes everything worse. Sadness feels like failure. Grief feels like a personal mistake. Depression becomes something to]]></description>
		
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		<title>Forgiveness is optional</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2025 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You have to forgive people who wrong you…right? The world is filled with injustice and wrongdoing, and to live in the world — to not be consumed by anger — forgiveness is necessary. At least that’s what we’re told over and over again: By forgiving, we can set ourselves free.But is there a cost to]]></description>
		
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		<title>Across the Gooniverse</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sean’s guest today is Daniel Kolitz, author of a remarkable Harper’s story on “gooning.” They talk about this emerging subculture and how it reflects back on the larger world, from the economics of attention to the rise of short-form everything. Kolitz explains why the Gooniverse isn’t just about porn, how hyperkinetic media rewires our sense]]></description>
		
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