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0:00:06 It’s time for another round of business idea giveaways, this time with an AI-assisted theme
0:00:06 to them.
0:00:09 We’ve got 15, at least, of these to go through.
0:00:14 And to help me out, he’s no stranger to the Side Hustle Show, long-time listener, serial
0:00:20 side hustler from DoYouEvenBlog.com and CodePlaybook.com, Pete McPherson.
0:00:21 Welcome back.
0:00:22 Thank you, Nick.
0:00:23 I appreciate you having me on again.
0:00:24 You bet.
0:00:28 So you were just last on only a few months ago, episode 659, if you want to go back in
0:00:31 the archives and check that out, there was a lot of interest around that because you
0:00:36 were talking about using AI to build software, sometimes recurring revenue software, the holy
0:00:38 grail of side hustles.
0:00:38 That’s right.
0:00:44 And so episode 659, if you want to go check that one out, we talked a little bit about idea
0:00:45 generation in that episode.
0:00:51 But today, we figured we’d just open up the brainstorming wishlist here and just throw out
0:00:52 some ideas.
0:00:57 And so I want to tee this up with an idea that has kind of been on the top of my mind.
0:01:00 And I want to get your take on how feasible this would be.
0:01:06 And so I’m calling this kind of the content curator tool, for lack of a better word, because
0:01:12 every week, me and my assistant, we spend some time looking for interesting side hustle stories.
0:01:14 And we include those in our newsletter at the bottom.
0:01:15 Like, hey, we found this.
0:01:17 You might also be interested in this.
0:01:22 Oh, so-and-so made, you know, $5,000 last month selling ice cream at community events.
0:01:23 Like, oh, okay.
0:01:24 I didn’t know you could do that.
0:01:27 Like, just random little side hustle stories like that.
0:01:31 So one, could you build a curated newsletter and you train it on your own voice?
0:01:33 Like, I’m still big on, like, the newsletter model.
0:01:37 But the curation part is time consuming, especially if you’ve got to recreate it every single day.
0:01:42 The second use case that I see would be like, okay, could you create a summary of 10 of these
0:01:47 that you find every week and build me an outline that I could use for an episode, right?
0:01:48 And so that would be a very specific use case.
0:01:55 I think you could do this in just about any industry, hobby, niche, like in the car business.
0:01:58 Everybody in the car business subscribes to automotive news.
0:02:03 Like, could you create a digital automotive news that, you know, had a unique voice, had
0:02:04 a unique perspective?
0:02:09 We’ve talked to local curators who, you know, are talking about community events in their
0:02:09 local hometown.
0:02:12 There’s a lot of work that goes into building something like that.
0:02:18 I’m wondering if there’s a way to scrape, for lack of a better word, but like somehow automate
0:02:19 that curation process.
0:02:19 Yes.
0:02:20 Well, there’s always a way, period.
0:02:23 The question is, is it viable or not?
0:02:25 I would argue this is a great idea.
0:02:31 The first thing that popped in my head were these old RSS feed conglomerators.
0:02:33 I can’t even remember the names of them.
0:02:35 Feed burner and there was a handful of others.
0:02:39 A lot of these things stopped working or closed down.
0:02:43 I don’t know if you remember this, like probably maybe six years ago, eight years ago or something.
0:02:44 Yeah.
0:02:45 Like Feedly was one that I used.
0:02:49 I remember people complaining, like, are you kidding?
0:02:51 I use this every day.
0:02:52 Yeah.
0:02:52 Google Reader.
0:02:53 Yeah.
0:02:53 Yeah.
0:02:58 I think it would be totally viable to be able to input certain sources.
0:03:00 Maybe it’s like, maybe it’s like a creator you already follow.
0:03:01 Maybe they have a blog.
0:03:03 Maybe they have a YouTube channel.
0:03:04 Maybe they have social media.
0:03:09 It would be cool if you could put in any channel like that, or even their email address.
0:03:15 There, there are ways to just like create a fake email address for your app, receive that
0:03:18 email and then automatically do something with it.
0:03:21 So yeah, I think it’d be cool to create this like conglomerate.
0:03:28 Combinator with a bunch of different sources and then fine tune with AI probably some, some
0:03:34 different prompts that’ll like format it into what you want to see, have it emailed to you
0:03:36 daily or weekly to like comb through.
0:03:38 I, yeah, I think that’s totally viable.
0:03:38 Yeah.
0:03:40 I think that’s a great idea too.
0:03:44 Like, I think that’s actually viable for financial gains, not just like, can you make it?
0:03:44 I think that’s good.
0:03:45 Yeah.
0:03:47 It could be a consumer facing thing.
0:03:50 Like, could you send, you know, do the formatting and send that out to people?
0:03:54 Like, here’s the, here are the coolest articles we found about gardening or parenting or whatever
0:03:58 this week, you know, put your own unique spin on it or whatever.
0:04:03 And it could be an internal tool as well to help guide, you know, future episode content
0:04:03 and stuff.
0:04:06 Hey, get a load of these top 10 side hustles of the week that you never heard of.
0:04:07 Boom, boom, boom, boom.
0:04:08 I think that’d be fun.
0:04:12 Would you like to hear a really somewhat similar idea actually that’s on my list?
0:04:13 Let’s hear it.
0:04:17 I initially called this, there’s a bunch of, I have a feeling we’re going to release a bunch
0:04:19 of really crappy names by the way.
0:04:21 It’s just idea.
0:04:23 So I named this content bank.
0:04:31 This was originally an idea for creators like us, podcasters or YouTubers or marketers or whatever.
0:04:33 Originally, it’s not anymore.
0:04:35 I’m going to read what I wrote and then I’m going to read my new idea.
0:04:42 I wrote down a searchable database of all of your content aggregated across all of your
0:04:45 channels, social, email, YouTube, blog, podcast, everything.
0:04:52 Just a database links to everything, maybe even like a little AI summary of a piece of content.
0:04:54 And here’s the thing.
0:04:57 And here’s what triggered this, a new idea, searchable.
0:05:04 And the more I think about this, I actually think a cool side hustle app would be search
0:05:05 on steroids.
0:05:12 As in, what if you had your own search bar that you could specify where it searches?
0:05:15 So I’ll just give you a really personal example.
0:05:16 I would use this all the time.
0:05:19 I’m pretty sure I would use this like three times an hour if I had it.
0:05:26 A search bar that would search my Google Drive, my Facebook account, my Obsidian, Obsidian’s
0:05:32 like my note-taking app on my computer, my calendar, and Apple reminders.
0:05:33 That’s all I want.
0:05:35 Like, I don’t want it to search anything else.
0:05:40 But if I could have a tool that I just search for something and it searches all of those things
0:05:43 and gives me results, I would pay handsomely for this, Nick.
0:05:44 What do you think?
0:05:46 I guess I don’t see myself using it.
0:05:46 Oh, really?
0:05:47 Well, here’s the use case for me.
0:05:52 I’ll get emails from listeners and be like, do you remember the episode where you talked
0:05:55 to so-and-so and she had a business?
0:05:59 You know, and they’re trying to find, and it’s like, usually that triggers enough.
0:06:01 Like, oh yeah, that sounds familiar.
0:06:03 I think you’re thinking of this person or this episode.
0:06:06 And so I can kind of go through my own mental database for that.
0:06:12 But I often joke that I wish my house was as easily searchable as Gmail.
0:06:13 Like, where do we put the keys?
0:06:15 Where can we find the, you know, the kid’s sweatshirt?
0:06:21 You know, so there is a, there’s something valuable in search, but I’m not, I don’t know
0:06:25 if I have, maybe I don’t have that much, that big of a library or like that big of a problem
0:06:26 finding stuff.
0:06:26 I definitely do.
0:06:27 I would use this all the time.
0:06:29 Also, why can’t you search your house like that?
0:06:30 The big fail.
0:06:34 So we registered like our kids’ emails, you know, when they were born, like, you know,
0:06:36 first name, last name at gmail.com.
0:06:40 Can offer the life of us, figure out where we put the password.
0:06:45 Like it was pre-recovery account, you know, set up a backup, like none of that.
0:06:47 And so they’re like, I forgot my password, Google.
0:06:49 And Google’s like, well, what was the last password you remember?
0:06:50 And you’re like, no, no, no, you don’t understand.
0:06:52 We don’t remember any of them.
0:06:53 So it’s like unrecoverable.
0:06:53 Yeah.
0:06:55 What if you could build an app that could search your house?
0:06:59 Like you have blink cameras these days, outside and inside.
0:07:03 I have three personally, mostly outside, just security cameras or whatnot.
0:07:05 I know there’s a way to tie into that.
0:07:13 And I watched a couple of YouTube videos months ago, like six months ago, of people coding,
0:07:16 searching live video or almost live.
0:07:22 As in like the AI was analyzing the video like once a second or so.
0:07:26 And you could say like, where’s the red ball?
0:07:27 And it would show you the red ball.
0:07:28 Like this was six months ago.
0:07:30 You could probably build something that could search your keys.
0:07:31 Yeah.
0:07:32 That’s an interesting one.
0:07:36 So, so content bank is for creators who’ve been in the game for a long time.
0:07:41 They’ve got a huge body of work that they want to be able to find specific documents or specific
0:07:42 clips or something like that.
0:07:47 Multi-channel that has to search blog, email, YouTube, that stuff.
0:07:53 One thing we do do is like in creating clip shows is searching transcripts or specific,
0:07:56 like we did this on the recent burnout episode.
0:08:01 I need to find the episodes where people are specifically talking about how they felt burnout,
0:08:03 how they dealt with it, how they overcame that.
0:08:06 And so trying to find those specific clips.
0:08:08 But that’s, those transcripts are all in Google Drive.
0:08:09 So it’s like a one channel search.
0:08:10 Yeah.
0:08:11 Still a good idea though.
0:08:12 You want me to go again?
0:08:12 Or you got one?
0:08:13 I got one.
0:08:17 This actually comes from my wife who does photography as a side hustle.
0:08:20 And I was like, what would be on your wishlist of an app?
0:08:26 And she’s like, I want to know the angle of the sun for like lighting purposes for photography
0:08:29 based on a Google map location or a Google earth location.
0:08:34 I need, I want to go here and I want to figure out at six o’clock, is it better to show up at
0:08:34 six o’clock?
0:08:35 Is it better to show up at eight o’clock?
0:08:35 Right.
0:08:37 Where’s, where’s the angle of the sun?
0:08:43 And I feel like this has got to be totally viable based on what was just historic atmospheric
0:08:48 data or, you know, uh, astron, astronomical data, astronomical data.
0:08:49 I have no idea.
0:08:53 Uh, I’ll tell you what, instead of commenting whether I would use that because I wouldn’t,
0:08:55 because I wouldn’t have any need for it.
0:08:57 I was totally picturing in my head.
0:09:01 First of all, I think you could mostly ignore Google maps.
0:09:06 I think there are actually APIs, which if you want me to break down what an API is, I’m totally
0:09:08 willing to, or I’ll, I’ll just skip it for now.
0:09:12 I think there are APIs out there by third party companies.
0:09:17 You and I have never heard of, you probably do some Googling and discover a lot of that
0:09:20 data is readily available.
0:09:22 It’s not in an app form.
0:09:25 It’s not like your wife could like choose on a map.
0:09:31 Like I am here and it’s 7 30 AM on a Tuesday, July, whatever like that.
0:09:31 Yeah.
0:09:35 You could build around that, but I think that data would actually be really easy to find.
0:09:36 That’s my guess.
0:09:37 Yeah.
0:09:41 I’m kind of with you based, you know, latitude, longitude, and then you’d add the interface
0:09:43 layer on top of it to make it usable.
0:09:47 Also, I’ll just continue brainstorming ideas here.
0:09:53 One thing that would take that the extra mile for me, I could see doing is when in the next
0:09:56 five days, is it going to be best to shoot?
0:09:57 Let’s say you had that option.
0:10:00 It’d be like, no, Tuesday is actually stormy, cloudy or whatever.
0:10:07 But it could say, hey, Wednesday, it’s supposed to be partly cloudy with a late sunset at 9 27 PM.
0:10:10 And that light would be perfect or something like that.
0:10:10 Yeah.
0:10:11 All right.
0:10:11 What else you got?
0:10:12 Okay.
0:10:19 Let’s stick with this theme of readily available data, because I know for my next idea here,
0:10:20 the data is out there.
0:10:22 Somebody just has to like finesse it.
0:10:25 So I called this voice to KCAL.
0:10:28 This has been on my idea list for like a year and a half.
0:10:34 I love calorie tracking until I hate calorie tracking what I eat.
0:10:40 There are apps that do it really well, but you’re like searching for your food exactly.
0:10:44 And then there’s serving size and then it’s so on and so on and so on.
0:10:45 Like it’s kind of cool.
0:10:49 And then you do it for like four meals and you’re like, wow, this is a massive pain.
0:10:53 Yeah, I’ve used MyFitnessPal like off and on for years.
0:10:56 And the reason it’s off and on is because it’s tedious.
0:10:57 It’s such a hassle.
0:11:04 So first of all, a billion dollar idea would be to make that 10 times easier, however you can.
0:11:06 That’s just my billion dollar idea.
0:11:10 Have you seen the ones that do like you’re just supposed to take a picture of your plate
0:11:13 and it somehow knows what that food is and it gives you an estimate?
0:11:14 Yes.
0:11:14 Okay.
0:11:15 Great idea.
0:11:17 I actually think that’s way harder than what I’m about to say.
0:11:19 Mine’s like an in-between.
0:11:23 It’s not as useful as that, but it’s more useful than typing it in.
0:11:32 I would like to just talk at the app and say like, I just had a Culver’s Double Deluxe Butterburger.
0:11:33 It’s amazing, by the way.
0:11:35 The best fast food burger you can buy.
0:11:38 Your entire day’s allotment of calories in one sitting.
0:11:38 Oh my God.
0:11:39 It’s so much.
0:11:41 I don’t even know how many, but it’s a lot.
0:11:45 And I just had fries and a large Coke Zero.
0:11:46 I just want to say that.
0:11:49 Literally hit the record button, say that.
0:11:51 The app will transcribe it.
0:11:57 It’ll send it to AI for some formatting, some structuring, which is actually really simple
0:11:57 to do.
0:11:59 Like it’ll break it down into, okay.
0:12:02 Meal object one, burger.
0:12:06 The name of it, Culver’s Double Deluxe or whatever that is.
0:12:09 And then query that same database that MyFitnessPal is.
0:12:09 Yeah.
0:12:11 Like how many calories is that?
0:12:12 I know that data is out there.
0:12:17 I think the easiest version of the slide hustle, I think the picture thing is actually better.
0:12:20 But actually, I could be wrong, but I actually feel like that’s way harder.
0:12:21 I don’t know.
0:12:22 I just want to talk to it.
0:12:28 I just want to record for 20 seconds, say my entire meal, say I had two servings of this
0:12:31 or three servings of this, and then boom, calories.
0:12:32 No, I like it.
0:12:37 And then the exit plan, obviously, that would be a great acquisition target for a MyFitnessPal,
0:12:38 which I think is owned by Under Armour.
0:12:44 So there’s definitely some players out there in this space who would be, you would think
0:12:45 they would want to add this to their tech stack.
0:12:47 Yeah, I would hope so.
0:12:49 They better, else I’m not going to use their F anymore.
0:12:54 More with Pete in just a moment, including a couple of quick ways to validate demand for
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0:15:15 I want to talk real quick about demand validation because we’re just throwing out ideas from
0:15:17 personal pain points, which I think is a great place to start.
0:15:23 But another angle that you can use if you’re more analytical, I want to see if there’s anybody
0:15:23 actually looking for this.
0:15:28 One tool you could use is Ahrefs, but I imagine any keyword research tool would probably have
0:15:29 similar functionality.
0:15:33 You can plug in one of the AI tool directories.
0:15:37 I use Matt Wolf’s future tools.io for this example.
0:15:41 And then you want to look for their organic keyword footprint.
0:15:43 Like how are, where are they getting traffic from?
0:15:45 And I looked for keywords that started with AI in this case.
0:15:50 And some of the stuff that comes up that they’re already ranking for that, that, you know, there’s
0:15:51 demand for it.
0:15:55 Cause there’s like a certain search volume around this was AI portrait generator, which I thought
0:15:57 was kind of interesting.
0:16:02 I mean, you’ve seen people do pet portraits, inspire, you know, make, make my dog look like
0:16:03 a, you know, a Renaissance era.
0:16:06 So it’s like, okay, that’s a thing.
0:16:12 AI recipe generator was had 2000 monthly searches, AI symptom checker, which you can’t, can’t imagine
0:16:14 anyway that would go wrong, but 1500 searches for that.
0:16:21 A couple of interesting ones were AI Minecraft skin generator with 500 searches a month and a
0:16:23 keyword difficulty of seven, meaning not very difficult.
0:16:29 That’s on a scale from zero to a hundred AI prayer generator, 400 monthly searches with
0:16:31 a KD keyword difficulty of zero.
0:16:34 Did you use AI to start generating prayers for people?
0:16:35 I thought that was fantastic.
0:16:40 And then the AI face combiner had a, and then there were actually a lot of variations of kind
0:16:42 of like a face mesh type of keyword.
0:16:47 People looking for that kind of tool, but 250 searches specifically for the face combiner
0:16:51 tool, I guess, to maybe see what your future kid might look like.
0:16:55 I don’t know what, what would be the use case of combining faces, but people are looking
0:16:55 for it.
0:16:56 That’s interesting.
0:17:01 And then another method that you can look for an absolutely free, you know, without paying
0:17:04 for Ahrefs or another tool is just to look for on Reddit.
0:17:10 Is there an app that, you know, in quotes, is there a tool that is there, or, you know,
0:17:14 looking for an app blank, you know, and those types of keywords, people will be like typing
0:17:18 in, maybe see something exists, or you might have other people chiming in.
0:17:23 Oh, I totally wish that existed or alternative to blank, you know, alternative to Canva,
0:17:27 alternative to Ahrefs, alternative to ConvertKit, stuff like that.
0:17:33 So you see people teeing up those types of things as a way to invalidate demand.
0:17:34 Like, well, it’s not just in my head.
0:17:35 Other people are looking for this too.
0:17:36 Yeah, for sure.
0:17:37 All right.
0:17:38 What’s next on your list?
0:17:38 Okay.
0:17:39 I got a fun one.
0:17:44 I don’t know if this is in demand per se, but I would try it as a parent and maybe you
0:17:45 would too.
0:17:50 I’m calling this chore forge, F-O-R-G-E, chore forge.
0:17:51 Okay.
0:17:56 And this would be a game for families, presumably people with kids.
0:18:03 And I would like to turn household chores into a like productivity game.
0:18:03 That’s it.
0:18:08 Like we each have our own little user account and avatar and it’s cute and it’s cartoony.
0:18:16 And we, the parents, can customize the chores, obviously, that we do, that our children do,
0:18:22 et cetera, and customize the rewards, charts, points, leveling up.
0:18:22 You know what I mean?
0:18:30 Like some sort of productivity game, but based on familial chores where each person can be
0:18:31 competing against each other.
0:18:33 My daughter and my son can be competing.
0:18:34 It’s just a random idea.
0:18:34 Okay.
0:18:36 I would love kids versus parents.
0:18:40 Like when we pit the kids against each other, it’s like a recipe for heartache and sadness.
0:18:42 But if they’re competing against the parents, they’re all in.
0:18:43 I like that too.
0:18:44 Yeah.
0:18:44 It’s brilliant.
0:18:44 Okay.
0:18:48 So you’re like, okay, get, you know, earn five points, take out the trash, empty the dishwasher,
0:18:50 earn 10 points, like stuff like that.
0:18:50 Yeah.
0:18:56 And not only that, I’ll tell you my kids personally and probably everybody else’s, they love cute
0:18:57 creatures.
0:18:59 It kind of reminds me of the old Tamagotchi.
0:19:00 Do you remember those things?
0:19:01 Sure.
0:19:03 You know, little Tamagotchi toys from the nineties.
0:19:09 If they could start as like a small cat, a kitten or a small dog or a raccoon or a horse
0:19:10 or literally anything.
0:19:14 And if they could see their character progressing, leveling up.
0:19:15 Oh yeah.
0:19:16 It’s all about leveling up.
0:19:18 Two and a half weeks left, a hundred points.
0:19:20 And then your character levels up.
0:19:21 If they see that happen, they’re locked in.
0:19:22 Yes.
0:19:25 I will probably never have to tell them to do this ever again.
0:19:25 Yeah.
0:19:26 It’s like the evolution of your Pokemon.
0:19:27 Yeah.
0:19:28 They’re like, what other chores can I do right now?
0:19:30 I want to see my character level up.
0:19:30 Right.
0:19:31 Yeah.
0:19:31 Chore Forge.
0:19:33 I think this could actually be big.
0:19:34 That’s, that’s kind of cool.
0:19:35 Yeah.
0:19:35 Okay.
0:19:39 What’s next on my, well, this is actually one I’ve been trying to build in Claude and
0:19:45 it is the podcast transcript editor suggester thing, right?
0:19:47 Where I record for 60 minutes.
0:19:51 Like I want to, I want to trim the bottom 10% of this episode where it was just, you know,
0:19:52 got boring.
0:19:52 It got repetitive.
0:19:56 Like that’s what I typically do as part of my editing process.
0:20:00 And historically that’s been a manual review of, you know, reviewing the transcript and
0:20:02 say, okay, here’s where it kind of went off the rails.
0:20:04 This, this question didn’t really land.
0:20:05 Okay.
0:20:05 I’m going to trim that.
0:20:10 And what I’m trying to do is, you know, feed in examples of past, you know, before and
0:20:16 after transcripts into Claude and saying, based on the style of the side hustle show, here’s
0:20:17 the next raw recording episode.
0:20:21 Can you please provide your, your editing suggestions and your ad break suggestions?
0:20:22 Like where’s a natural break point.
0:20:30 And it hasn’t quite, it hasn’t quite hit yet where it’s like, yes, that’s a dialed in process.
0:20:31 And it kind of chokes on it.
0:20:34 Cause it’s like, sometimes these are 20, 30 pages of, you know, if you record an hour of
0:20:39 audio, like it’s a really long document, I’m having a hard time with that, but that’s something
0:20:42 that I’ve been trying to build for, for my personal use case.
0:20:44 And imagine other podcasters might use that as well.
0:20:44 Yeah.
0:20:46 We’re really close on that.
0:20:51 I feel like the past six or seven months, AI models continue to get better.
0:20:56 We know this, the context windows continue to get larger.
0:20:59 Now it’s a million tokens on some of these models or whatnot.
0:21:03 I think within even a couple of months, we’re going to see a new round of context windows.
0:21:07 And right now, like that hour podcast and that transcript, it’s like 30 pages.
0:21:12 That’s like, it’s like right at the limit where you’re starting to overload the models.
0:21:15 I think three months from now, I think it’s not going to be a deal anymore.
0:21:20 I think you’ll be able to just be like, here’s literally 500,000 words from this podcast.
0:21:22 Tell me this exact thing.
0:21:24 And I think that’ll be, I think that’ll be better.
0:21:24 Yeah.
0:21:26 Give me, give me the best 80% of it.
0:21:28 Give me the, give me the best 90%.
0:21:32 Maybe there’s like a sliding spectrum on, you know, what you want the suggestions to be.
0:21:36 And of course you can’t just, I wouldn’t just hand that off to the editor and say, go, it’s
0:21:37 like, you’re still going to have a manual review process.
0:21:40 But the hope is it would speed up that process a little bit.
0:21:40 Totally.
0:21:42 You want to stick on podcasting for a moment?
0:21:42 Sure.
0:21:44 Here’s what I hate about podcasting.
0:21:45 I love podcasting.
0:21:48 I’ve done 400 interviews, like whatever.
0:21:54 What I stink at is following up with my guest to like, give them some marketing materials.
0:21:59 And here’s a Google drive with some share images and some, oh, I don’t know, copywriting for
0:22:01 Facebook or Instagram or whatever.
0:22:02 I hate that.
0:22:04 And I hate sending those emails.
0:22:06 Like I never do that stuff because I’m lazy.
0:22:07 No, me neither.
0:22:09 And AI do that for me.
0:22:10 Right.
0:22:16 So a lot of these AI podcasting tools are focused on editing and rightfully so.
0:22:17 That’s another huge time suck, by the way.
0:22:23 And maybe a little bit of marketing, like show notes or timestamps or stuff like that.
0:22:24 That’s all well and good.
0:22:32 I feel like there’s not as much that will automatically take my transcript and email my guests with stuff
0:22:33 that they could use.
0:22:35 I haven’t seen a whole lot of that, at least.
0:22:36 So I think there’s an idea there.
0:22:37 Yeah.
0:22:42 Here’s a handful of clips that, you know, were auto generated in Riverside and here.
0:22:43 Yeah, there’s.
0:22:43 Yeah.
0:22:45 There could be something to that because it’s I never do that.
0:22:48 And it’s like sometimes it’s two or three days later.
0:22:49 Like, shoot, I forgot to send you a message.
0:22:50 Your episode went live on Thursday.
0:22:53 And thanks again for joining me.
0:22:55 But that’s usually the extent of it.
0:22:58 I don’t typically ask or bank on anybody sharing it.
0:23:00 And it’s like when they do, it’s like a bonus.
0:23:02 And let’s be really clear here, Nick.
0:23:07 Nick did not actually send me that message after our last podcast interview a couple of
0:23:07 months ago.
0:23:08 I don’t think I don’t remember seeing it.
0:23:09 Yeah, exactly.
0:23:10 So you can vouch for that.
0:23:10 Like it doesn’t happen.
0:23:11 Exactly.
0:23:11 Yeah.
0:23:12 Nick needs this.
0:23:13 So I’m going to create it.
0:23:16 You may get another one, a different category, or you got another one.
0:23:19 I’ve got one that is top of mind lately.
0:23:21 And I’m calling this scam detector.
0:23:21 Oh.
0:23:28 So sometimes you get text messages and it’ll say, you have unpaid parking tickets in the
0:23:29 city of Seattle and we’re going to revoke your license.
0:23:32 And it’s like from a, you know, click here and it’s like a dot.
0:23:34 Are you domain?
0:23:36 You’re like, OK, it’s very clearly a scam.
0:23:37 I’m going to delete this.
0:23:38 I’m going to ignore it.
0:23:41 But sometimes the line is a little bit more blurred.
0:23:47 Like I got this IRS letter the other day and it was about a return from four years ago.
0:23:48 Like, is this legit?
0:23:50 Like, it looks it looks legit.
0:23:53 And I sent it to my accountant and he was like, yeah, that’s that’s legit.
0:23:55 But I was like, is this an IRS scam?
0:23:57 You know, it was just a weird thing.
0:24:04 And a couple of Thanksgivings ago, I had a really, really convincing crypto ransomware scam.
0:24:06 And it was from, you know, an email from me.
0:24:09 And so, like, somehow it was like a phishing attack, like from it looked like it was spoofed
0:24:11 from my email account.
0:24:11 We’ve hacked your system.
0:24:14 We’re going to destroy your reputation.
0:24:15 We’re going to do blah, blah, blah.
0:24:19 And we demand this $3,000 Bitcoin transfer to this wallet address.
0:24:26 And I spent like all night, like trying to lock down all my stuff, like two factor change
0:24:33 the passwords, you know, with the tech team, we couldn’t find any evidence of a breach anywhere.
0:24:37 But it was like, there’s no way I’m going to sleep with this going on.
0:24:42 And it’s like, finally realized, just basically by copying and pasting, like, this is, you know,
0:24:44 a scam that hundreds of people had received.
0:24:48 But it was like, it looked to me, you know, having never received something like that before,
0:24:49 it looked super legit.
0:24:50 And it definitely had me stressed out.
0:24:55 So scam detector is the tool that you can kind of crowdsource that kind of wisdom and
0:24:56 protect yourself.
0:24:57 Yeah.
0:24:58 Let me throw out a knowledge nugget.
0:25:02 So first of all, that’s a billion dollar idea for sure.
0:25:10 I think as people get older and AI gets better, and then my mother, two years from now, or even
0:25:14 really now, but especially like two years from now, my mother could receive a phone call from
0:25:18 an AI Pete that sounds exactly like me asking for money.
0:25:21 And probably even from my cell phone number, I’m guessing.
0:25:23 So yeah, I think that’s actually a billion dollar idea.
0:25:25 Here’s my nugget of wisdom though.
0:25:30 For all the things we’ve said, I’m going to drop back from the ideas just for a second.
0:25:31 Bird’s eye view.
0:25:37 For all of these ideas, I can get lost in a little bit of overwhelm, like, oh my gosh,
0:25:37 yeah.
0:25:42 And then I would need to check spam text messages and spam emails and spam calls and spam AI.
0:25:49 I think there’s a version of every single one of these ideas that can be done in a weekend.
0:25:56 Maybe you just start with spam text, for example, or maybe you just start with this one little
0:26:00 core feature, this one simplest version of that.
0:26:03 I just wanted to like remind everybody in the ether.
0:26:08 Or how about, how about you only specialize in those class action lawsuit claims where you
0:26:13 get this like sketchy looking postcard and it’s like, go to this, you know, 20 word long
0:26:15 domain, you know, to, to submit your claim.
0:26:17 And you’re like, is this real?
0:26:20 Cause of course I could ask for your personal information to, you know, pay you out if this
0:26:24 eventually, you know, settles, you’re like, dude, is this, is this for real?
0:26:28 Is it even worth the, you know, $30 I might get from this to, to submit this information?
0:26:29 Yeah.
0:26:30 That’s also just a content.
0:26:31 Business right there.
0:26:37 Like a blog or a podcast, like preventing spam or helping elderly parents, especially
0:26:38 in my case.
0:26:42 I think about this all the time because my mom and dad are like, Hey, did you see this
0:26:42 thing?
0:26:47 And I’m like, that’s somebody from Russia off their laptop right now, like starting to spam
0:26:47 you.
0:26:48 No, this is, this is for real.
0:26:52 Especially with, you know, you and I, somebody with hundreds of hours of their voice on the
0:26:52 internet.
0:26:55 It’s, it’s definitely a conversation we’ve had to have with, uh, with mom and dad.
0:26:55 Yeah.
0:26:56 Okay.
0:26:56 I got one.
0:26:57 Yeah, go ahead.
0:27:04 So this next idea I love, because I think everybody listening to this could find a network that
0:27:06 they are already tapped into.
0:27:11 Maybe you are an accountant and you know, accountants, maybe you are a teacher, a yoga instructor, and
0:27:13 you know, yoga instructors, so on and so forth.
0:27:13 Right.
0:27:22 I think this idea anybody could use and customize to some network of people they have access
0:27:22 to.
0:27:28 So the network I’m going to use is teachers because my wife is a teacher and a lot of her
0:27:33 family are teachers and my mom was in education and I’ve been in around teachers my entire life
0:27:39 and teachers like everybody else in this world send an absurd amount of email.
0:27:40 I did as an accountant too.
0:27:44 I worked at spreadsheets, but I sent 10 emails an hour as an accountant.
0:27:44 It’s kind of weird.
0:27:47 A lot of those emails look exactly alike.
0:27:51 And so I talked to my wife about this like six months ago.
0:27:53 I was like, can I actually just build you some email templates?
0:27:59 Because she emails her students for the same spring concert every single May.
0:28:03 And it’s exactly the same, except for like two or three tiny details.
0:28:06 And I was like, I could build this, this template for you.
0:28:11 And then this time next year, you could just hit a button, customize the few details, and
0:28:16 it sends it out to your current students with the right day and the right time and the right
0:28:16 whatever.
0:28:18 So it’s a simple idea, right?
0:28:20 Email templates been around forever.
0:28:28 But I think now more than ever, it’s easy to target yoga instructors, chess players, pickleball
0:28:28 people.
0:28:35 I don’t know, any network that you might have, probably send a specific type of email,
0:28:37 especially like career people, right?
0:28:38 Profession-based people.
0:28:40 Offer them email templates.
0:28:42 And I think there’s a good side hustle cash there.
0:28:43 Okay.
0:28:45 So this would be, what do they call it in Gmail?
0:28:46 Like a custom response?
0:28:51 There’s something built in to Gmail, like for, you can save certain templates, but like this
0:28:55 on steroids and dialed into a specific industry.
0:28:56 It’d be interesting.
0:29:03 I just thought about this, uh, I wonder if I could hook up an AI app to my wife’s inbox.
0:29:06 They use Google drive or workplace or whatever it’s called these days.
0:29:12 I wonder if I could like scan the last 100 emails she sent out and create three templates
0:29:12 based on that.
0:29:17 Like, oh, I see that you send this almost exact same email.
0:29:18 Boom, boom, boom, boom.
0:29:20 And they’re like recommended template.
0:29:20 I bet that’s possible.
0:29:21 That’d be cool.
0:29:22 Yeah.
0:29:23 Cool.
0:29:26 Another one that you had on your list was the broken link checker, but for,
0:29:29 your YouTube channels, which I thought was really interesting because there’s a dozen
0:29:33 tools and plugins that will do this for WordPress and, you know, scrapes your, or crawls your
0:29:34 site and tests all these links.
0:29:38 And you get back this big report of like, here’s hundreds of broken links that now you have to
0:29:38 go fix.
0:29:40 It would be great if it could actually fix them for you.
0:29:41 Maybe that’s a level two.
0:29:46 But you said, why isn’t there anything that will do this for your YouTube descriptions?
0:29:46 Stuff like that.
0:29:48 I’d pay for this, by the way.
0:29:54 I’ve gotten videos taken down actually three in the past couple of months just because there
0:29:55 was a broken link.
0:29:58 And YouTube was like, I think this is spam content.
0:30:03 You can click here to, you know, fight this accusation or whatever it is.
0:30:04 Yeah.
0:30:05 I would love a tool.
0:30:10 Bargages connect my YouTube channel, scans all my videos, and then tells me to update
0:30:13 this, update that, checks for broken links and that sort of stuff.
0:30:14 For sure.
0:30:19 I will admit that I haven’t done a ton of research and searching around this, but what I would
0:30:26 love to see is the travel rewards points redemption optimizer type of tool where you can punch
0:30:29 in, Hey, I’ve got a 200,000 chase ultimate rewards.
0:30:32 We’ve got another a hundred thousand on Delta, another a hundred thousand on United.
0:30:33 Where can we go?
0:30:34 Right.
0:30:36 It’s kind of open-ended and maybe you give it some constraints.
0:30:37 Like I want to take family of four.
0:30:41 We want to go over spring break, which is these dates plus or minus a week.
0:30:47 And, you know, other than that, we’re fairly destination agnostic, you know, what’s the
0:30:48 best redemption?
0:30:51 And so far I’ve been playing around with points.
0:30:55 Yeah, which is okay.
0:31:00 It’s, it’s an interesting one where you can kind of do some of those types of searches, but
0:31:02 it’s still really tedious and it would be cool to have some.
0:31:08 Custom curated recommendations based on your points balance and, and what, what you could
0:31:08 get for those.
0:31:09 Totally.
0:31:14 Uh, I’ve used points.me several times, but it’s kind of tedious.
0:31:16 It’s kind of a pain.
0:31:19 And you have to be like really specific in your search.
0:31:25 Oh, we’re searching, uh, this airline or this date and this destination and that sort of stuff.
0:31:29 And then it tells you the good part, like, oh yeah, you could use these rewards.
0:31:29 Yeah.
0:31:33 Which I understand on the backend of that, like there’s a lot of data and combinations and
0:31:34 well, do you want this airport or this airport?
0:31:38 Like there’s a, there’s a lot of moving parts that goes into that, which is probably why it’s
0:31:39 so tedious.
0:31:39 Yeah.
0:31:40 That’s a good idea.
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0:34:17 Here’s a really easy one.
0:34:20 I don’t think anybody’s going to make a ton of money with this one.
0:34:25 And it might already exist, you tell me, but I’m calling this sticky task.
0:34:31 This is a Chrome extension where, almost like a sticky note, you write down your most important
0:34:38 three-ish to-do items, and it stays visible across all of your tabs.
0:34:43 You alt tab, you go to the next tab, you open up a new tab or whatever, and you can still see
0:34:47 your three to-do list items sitting right there in the corner or whatever.
0:34:49 This has to exist in some format.
0:34:51 Yeah, that seems really simple.
0:34:54 If it doesn’t, I hope somebody builds that because, yeah, keep you focused.
0:34:57 Bonus points, if you wanted to make it more advanced, this might not exist.
0:35:00 It could integrate with your tools.
0:35:05 Apple Reminders, Trello, Todoist, Notion, or something else.
0:35:10 Like you could have it scan your to-do list app of choice and then have your things right
0:35:10 there.
0:35:11 I think that’d be cool.
0:35:12 I think that would be cool.
0:35:13 Would you charge for that?
0:35:14 What do you see as the…
0:35:16 This is something we haven’t talked about in the whole episode.
0:35:17 It’s like, well, how would you monetize that?
0:35:20 You know what I thought about an hour ago before we started recording?
0:35:24 I feel like a side hustle idea is this.
0:35:26 This is going off topic just a little bit.
0:35:27 You tell me if you want me to be quiet.
0:35:32 Brian Harris from Growth Tools had this realization a couple of years ago.
0:35:37 Software is becoming easier and so maybe we should make it free.
0:35:44 Maybe you could make some sort of app that people pay $29 a month for, like literally just
0:35:45 clone it, like duplicate it.
0:35:50 You could do that these days pretty easily, but make it $0, absolutely free.
0:35:56 And the idea is hopefully you can get more people in your funnel.
0:36:03 This would now be the top of funnel activity and you could do services or even online courses
0:36:08 or memberships or any other monetization strategy on the bottom end of the funnel.
0:36:14 Again, that’s not my brand new idea, but I feel like with AI coding, it’s easier and faster
0:36:18 than ever to create the next Calendly.
0:36:19 Let’s just say Calendly, right?
0:36:27 Like the scheduling manager or whatever, create Calendly, but 100% for free and then see if
0:36:31 that can grow your audience, your email list, for example, and then you can do other stuff
0:36:32 on the backend to make more money.
0:36:36 I know that’s a little, that’s a little different, a little off topic, but I feel like that’s
0:36:38 a, I feel like that’s a viable strategy.
0:36:38 It is.
0:36:44 And this could be really disruptive because historically, you know, last generation software companies,
0:36:49 Microsoft, Oracle, you know, some of these software companies, some of the most profitable
0:36:49 in the world, right?
0:36:53 Because it’s like digital products, you know, very low incremental costs of serving that extra
0:36:54 customer.
0:37:00 But if software has this constant downward pressure on price, as people build alternatives, side
0:37:03 hustlers build their own apps, then I don’t need to pay for this anymore.
0:37:03 I’ll build my own.
0:37:05 Then, then what happens?
0:37:07 And, you know, how else do we make money?
0:37:11 It’s like a weird, what else, you know, if we’re going to use Brian’s model, well, maybe
0:37:13 it’s just a lead generator, right?
0:37:17 Get people into my ecosystem, get people into my world, which totally viable for sure.
0:37:17 Right.
0:37:20 But then you got to figure out the backend and you got to figure out, well, what is it that
0:37:22 these people really want and value that I can help them with?
0:37:22 For sure.
0:37:23 What else we got?
0:37:28 So this was not an AI, but it kind of, your, your sticky task kind of reminded me of it.
0:37:30 I came across this service.
0:37:32 It was called boss as a service.
0:37:36 And it was basically for entrepreneurs, solo, solopreneurs, solo service providers, where it’s
0:37:37 like the grass is always greener.
0:37:39 You know, I want to be my own boss.
0:37:40 I don’t want anybody telling me what to do.
0:37:44 But then you sit down on day one and you’re like, dang, I, I’m not really sure what I
0:37:45 should do.
0:37:49 So you need this boss as a service where it helps you basically, uh, somebody looking over your
0:37:50 shoulder.
0:37:54 It could be a virtual mentor, somebody you check in with somebody for accountability, but it
0:37:58 was this service that was like, Hey, you know, keeping on top of you on your tasks, your to-do
0:37:58 list.
0:38:02 And so similar to this sticky task type of thing, you know, this remote, remote boss, and it
0:38:05 could be, it could even be a virtual type of thing right now.
0:38:07 I think there’s probably more power in having to be an actual human.
0:38:09 Cause it’s like, well, shove off robot.
0:38:10 Like, who are you to tell me what to do?
0:38:16 But there, there might be something to having a virtual remote boss or virtual AI boss to
0:38:17 keep you on task.
0:38:18 I literally have that on my list.
0:38:19 That’s on my thing.
0:38:25 It’s not called that specifically, but in my head, that’s the function it was.
0:38:26 I’ve seen if I can find it.
0:38:27 I think I called it.
0:38:27 Oh, I got it right here.
0:38:28 It’s not the date.
0:38:29 It’s horrible.
0:38:33 I called it daily AI manager thingy.
0:38:33 Okay.
0:38:34 Patent pending.
0:38:34 Right.
0:38:35 Exactly.
0:38:36 Copyright 2025.
0:38:45 In my head, I was thinking some AI that has all of the context, my goals, my life, my work,
0:38:47 my projects, and that sort of stuff.
0:38:52 I feed it all of that information and it has access to my to-do list.
0:38:54 Maybe it’s Notion, maybe it’s Todoist, maybe it’s Trello, whatever.
0:38:55 Right.
0:38:59 And every morning it sends me an email or text or a call for that matter.
0:39:02 You could do this via AI voice these days.
0:39:06 It calls me to be like, Hey, you got this thing coming up that you said you wanted to do.
0:39:14 And don’t forget you have a call with Nick at 2 p.m., but you’re going to be busy after that
0:39:16 with your other friend doing this.
0:39:20 So you really need to prioritize this today during these hours or whatever.
0:39:22 So it’s kind of the same idea, right?
0:39:24 Like this boss is just making sure you’re doing the right things.
0:39:25 I think it’s a brilliant idea.
0:39:26 Yeah.
0:39:30 That definitely seems like something that could be built, could be fairly automated,
0:39:33 especially if it can read into the context of your business.
0:39:34 And hey, these are your top priorities.
0:39:36 These are what you said, we’re going to be your top priorities.
0:39:38 Here’s some deadlines you got coming up.
0:39:39 I think that’d be really cool.
0:39:42 Have you heard of, I think it’s called My Body Tutor.
0:39:44 We talked about My Fitness Pal, but this is like a different one.
0:39:44 Oh, yeah.
0:39:48 So this is a service where for hundreds of dollars a month,
0:39:50 basically they will check in with you.
0:39:51 You’ll do your meal tracking.
0:39:51 Yeah.
0:39:55 And then they’ll check in with you three times a week, you know, by text message, I think.
0:39:57 Are you on track for your goals?
0:39:58 And that’s all it is.
0:39:58 It’s just accountability.
0:40:02 But it’s like that the power of having somebody look over your shoulder,
0:40:05 all of a sudden you stop eating ice cream and cookies and stuff.
0:40:07 It’s like just that extra little insight.
0:40:11 And it’s like, I think it’s going to have to be human or have some human element to it,
0:40:14 but maybe it’s worth experimenting if a robot could have the same role.
0:40:18 This is also on my list, not for fitness-related goals,
0:40:21 but for entrepreneur and creative-related goals.
0:40:26 So I ran this program for one month called Most Productive Month Ever, M-P-M-E.
0:40:30 And I basically asked people, what are your goals for this one month?
0:40:32 Just one month, 30 days.
0:40:34 And how often can I book you?
0:40:37 Once a day, three times a week, et cetera.
0:40:40 And so people submitted their stuff.
0:40:41 I heard their goals.
0:40:46 And then I just called them three times a week or five times a week and say,
0:40:47 hey, how’s it going?
0:40:49 Did you do what you said you were going to do?
0:40:49 That’s it.
0:40:51 And people paid for it.
0:40:55 And the first time I did this, I did this as like a challenge sort of thing, right?
0:41:01 The first time I did this, the only product I’ve ever done with a 100% success rate.
0:41:05 And so on my list, on my like SaaS company ideas list,
0:41:09 I thought maybe I could automate this entire thing, but I’m with you.
0:41:14 I think that needs a little bit of a human touch because no one cares about offending a robot, right?
0:41:17 Like it’s not the same level of accountability.
0:41:23 But I mean, the scratch your own itch thing, I think I could automate a lot of the parts of the process,
0:41:26 but still have like a human touch somewhere on the back end.
0:41:29 Anyway, I’m rambling now, but yeah, that’s a good idea for sure.
0:41:30 No, this is good.
0:41:34 Did you build at one point an LMS or a course hosting software?
0:41:35 I did.
0:41:36 Is it not live anymore?
0:41:38 Oh, it was an awful experience.
0:41:39 The product was great.
0:41:42 I stand by what I built and it works and it’s fine.
0:41:49 However, I was not prepared for people actually implementing what I built.
0:41:50 It’s complicated.
0:41:51 I don’t want to go into it, but it did not work.
0:41:52 And so I shut it down.
0:41:54 Yeah.
0:41:54 Okay.
0:41:58 The reason I ask is Teachable sent me a note and said,
0:42:02 you’ve been paying us $450 a year or something like that.
0:42:07 We’re going to jack up your rate to $1,600 a year effective next month.
0:42:08 And I’m like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
0:42:11 That’s not what I signed up for.
0:42:11 What’s going on?
0:42:13 That’s like almost quadruple the rate.
0:42:14 And they’re like, well, we added all these extra features.
0:42:16 Like, I didn’t ask for that.
0:42:16 I didn’t ask for those.
0:42:17 This is what I signed up for.
0:42:21 And so they’re like, well, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll make it, we’ll throw you a bone.
0:42:22 We’ll make it half, half off.
0:42:23 That’s still double.
0:42:25 That’s still double what you’re charging.
0:42:30 So I feel like these software companies could do themselves a favor by, you know, reading about
0:42:32 the frog in the boiling water, right?
0:42:34 Just bump it up 10% a year.
0:42:35 I’m not even going to notice.
0:42:39 But instead they go for this huge rate, which all of a sudden has me shopping alternatives,
0:42:41 asking Pete, it’s like, Hey, can I buy your thing instead?
0:42:46 Like there’s the, so, you know, putting the word out for teachable alternatives, where it’s
0:42:48 like, this is not core to the business.
0:42:51 And all of a sudden you made it a noticeable line item instead of something that was just
0:42:54 like, whatever, we pay for it once a year, forget about it.
0:42:57 So there’s something to that, like building alternatives.
0:42:59 And we talked about this in the last episode, unbundling.
0:43:01 I don’t, I don’t need all these bells and whistles.
0:43:02 Just make it something simple.
0:43:03 Maybe there’s something to that.
0:43:04 For sure.
0:43:07 And if you’ll allow me a tiny bit of self-promotion.
0:43:13 So Code Playbook was the course that I teach people how to vibe code using AI.
0:43:15 I did the same thing.
0:43:20 I actually, I looked at the page services, the big course providers.
0:43:24 I looked at this, I call it easy course, like about a year ago.
0:43:26 The one I told you a minute ago that failed.
0:43:28 I looked into that, that was my own product.
0:43:29 And I was like, this kind of sucks.
0:43:36 And I ended up building Code Playbook from scratch to be like my own little custom LMS.
0:43:38 And also I recorded it.
0:43:41 The videos are right there and you can also like clone it in five and a half seconds.
0:43:46 And I don’t, I don’t, I don’t, I don’t say this to say how awesome I am because it’s not perfect.
0:43:48 Although it is pretty sweet.
0:43:54 I don’t mind saying, but it didn’t take me that long and it was free and I don’t pay for it at all.
0:43:57 I like the, I paid for the domain name, codeplaybook.com.
0:43:58 That’s the only expense I’ve had, period.
0:44:00 It’s deployed for free.
0:44:01 It’s hosted for free.
0:44:07 I built the LMS or CMS, LMS, learning LMS.
0:44:12 I built the LMS in like maybe like six hours of work-ish.
0:44:16 And if you wanted to duplicate it today, you could, it’ll take five and a half seconds.
0:44:18 And then you’ll have to like customize it for your own thing.
0:44:28 But it’s just mind boggling that companies are jacking up their rates like this when there are people like me out here that would be like, no, no, I could do this for free right now.
0:44:30 I could sell it for a 10th of your cost.
0:44:34 And yeah, massive opportunities for like every industry.
0:44:36 Disruption is the word you used earlier.
0:44:38 I think we’re, I think we’re right there.
0:44:39 Yeah, that’s kind of crazy.
0:44:43 I’ll keep, I’ll keep shopping around, but at least I bought myself a little bit of time there.
0:44:47 I have a kid related one or parenting related one.
0:44:54 And I don’t have a great name for this, but I’m calling it like, you know, anything, but make it baseball, you know, broccoli, but make it ice cream.
0:44:57 Like the thing they need to learn, but make it something they like.
0:45:08 And I think there’s a way to format it in such a way, hey, you need to learn about World War II, but put it in context that they’re going to understand, you know, Yankees versus Red Sox or something like that.
0:45:08 Oh.
0:45:10 Am I blowing smoke here?
0:45:12 Is there, there’s something to this?
0:45:12 I think so.
0:45:17 You lost me in the first part, but the last analogy started to click.
0:45:25 Like, I want my kids to learn about this, but they’re really into Minecraft, Sonic the Hedgehog, fishing.
0:45:25 Those are my kids.
0:45:26 Right.
0:45:29 So teach them this, but baseball.
0:45:30 Yes.
0:45:30 Yes.
0:45:32 Give it in Minecraft terms.
0:45:32 Absolutely.
0:45:33 Yeah.
0:45:34 That’s cool.
0:45:35 Yeah.
0:45:36 I would like that.
0:45:36 I’d like to see that.
0:45:47 You had another one that was similar and it was like the 30 day learning journey or learning roadmap or for any skill, which I thought was really cool.
0:45:49 Wait, this is the best name I had, Nick.
0:45:50 You didn’t even share the name.
0:45:52 This is the only one that I named and I was like, I like this name.
0:45:53 Okay.
0:45:53 Plug the name.
0:45:55 Tiny syllabus.
0:45:58 Actually, I don’t know if that’s a great name or not, but it just, it resonated.
0:45:59 Yes.
0:46:00 I love this idea.
0:46:04 I think this is, well, here, I’ll just read it in my notes here.
0:46:05 Give it a topic.
0:46:08 Like, I want to learn how to garden.
0:46:10 I want to learn how to fish.
0:46:12 I want to start a YouTube channel.
0:46:13 I want to lose 15 pounds.
0:46:14 I want to do this.
0:46:14 I want to do that.
0:46:21 And then get a 30 day learning journey via email is what I would choose.
0:46:21 Right?
0:46:23 Like, I just want to enter in a topic.
0:46:25 Make it a drip email course, basically.
0:46:25 Yeah.
0:46:27 One email a day.
0:46:32 Very short, very specific, but like a curated outline for a course.
0:46:36 Like, don’t hit me with it all at once, but just tell me one interesting and cool thing.
0:46:44 thing to learn each day with links to YouTube videos or AI summaries or articles that would
0:46:44 help me.
0:46:46 I think this is cool.
0:46:48 I would, I actually thought about building this.
0:46:52 This is still on my to build list because I don’t actually think it’d be that hard.
0:46:58 It would be really, it would rely on AI heavily probably, but I think with the latest round
0:47:05 of models that can do really good Google searching and what’s the right word I’m looking
0:47:12 for here, like scraping Google, scraping YouTube videos that combined with AI, I think it put
0:47:14 together like a really cool thing.
0:47:17 30 day learning journey via email on any topic period.
0:47:18 Yeah.
0:47:20 That seems really viable.
0:47:21 It seems really valuable.
0:47:24 It seems like you can even use it to build paid products.
0:47:27 You can use it to build, you know, free lead gen challenges.
0:47:31 You, there’s, there’s a lot you can do with that.
0:47:36 Like the 30 day, well, like Tiffany Aliche, like the, uh, the 30 day live richer challenge,
0:47:37 you know, and we’re going to drip this out.
0:47:44 We did a 30 day money cleanse, probably similar, but we did a 30 day, you know, uh, side hustle
0:47:48 type of challenge, you know, plan launch hustle, you know, years and years, like probably 10 years
0:47:50 ago, we did this and maybe you feed it on your own.
0:47:54 It’s not just completely AI generated, but like, if you are a creator feed it on, you know,
0:47:59 your own material and, you know, have it organized that structure that in a way that that makes
0:47:59 sense.
0:48:04 And like, look, this is going to be the learning progression and, and drip that out.
0:48:05 You can turn that into a paid product.
0:48:06 Yeah, totally.
0:48:07 That’s a good idea.
0:48:08 Well, that’s okay, Nick.
0:48:09 There was one more.
0:48:13 I do want to get your take on and you called it like the AI round table or the mastermind
0:48:18 where you could, you know, give different personas to different members of your virtual
0:48:19 mastermind.
0:48:20 And a few people mentioned this.
0:48:26 We did a kind of AI use case roundup and a few people mentioned using a chat GPT or using
0:48:32 other AI tools as kind of like a sparring partner or a mastermind or almost a, you know, a silent
0:48:33 co-founder in some ways.
0:48:35 We’re like, what do you think of this idea?
0:48:36 Or like, here’s the direction of the business.
0:48:37 What do you think?
0:48:43 And just, you know, using it as, um, as a conversation starter or as, um, somebody to balance
0:48:47 these ideas off of, and you took it a step further with this virtual mastermind where
0:48:49 you could kind of create custom personas here.
0:48:50 Yeah.
0:48:53 I was almost hoping you wouldn’t bring it up because I literally started building this yesterday.
0:48:54 I got the domain.
0:48:55 Yeah.
0:48:57 It’s already, it’s like halfway done.
0:48:58 I think it’s a brilliant idea.
0:48:58 I do.
0:49:06 I am blown away by the people I hear about who use chat GPT as like a therapist or a friend
0:49:06 or whatever.
0:49:07 Yeah.
0:49:08 I can’t remember who I was talking to.
0:49:12 I was talking to somebody last week that was like, I, oh, I remember who it was.
0:49:13 I won’t mention their name.
0:49:19 I take a walk every single night and just talk to chat GPT for 30 minutes.
0:49:22 And I was like, what are you serious?
0:49:23 That’s amazing.
0:49:28 That’s a little scary and some other levels, but a lot of people are doing this.
0:49:31 Even more people will be doing this in the future.
0:49:36 I feel like, and I, for, for creators and entrepreneurs specifically, I think the mastermind
0:49:38 thing, I’ll just spoil it for you.
0:49:42 So in my own app, I am having customizable personas.
0:49:43 You literally name them.
0:49:48 You literally give them an, uh, like an avatar image using AI generated with AI.
0:49:51 And you can customize their experience.
0:49:53 You can customize the projects they work on.
0:49:54 You can customize their style.
0:49:56 You can customize their wealth.
0:49:56 You can customize that.
0:50:03 I think doing that and literally just creating a mastermind group chat is a multimillion dollar
0:50:03 idea.
0:50:05 I think there’s really something there.
0:50:08 I don’t think mine’s going to make that much money, but I think it’s great.
0:50:12 And not just that for creators and entrepreneurs, but I think this is one of those ideas you could
0:50:13 build for teachers.
0:50:15 You could build for firefighters.
0:50:21 You could build for this person or this person or this person, like this group chat for fill
0:50:21 in the blank.
0:50:23 I think it’s a brilliant idea.
0:50:23 Yeah.
0:50:28 This was something actually at, uh, at Ford, they would curate these dealer groups.
0:50:29 I think they called them their 20 groups.
0:50:30 I don’t know if there were 20 members.
0:50:33 I don’t know why I had that name, but they would take similar size dealers in different areas
0:50:37 of the country where they weren’t competing with each other and they could get together
0:50:40 usually virtually, but I think sometimes in person too and be like, well, how much are
0:50:44 you paying your service manager or what percentage, you know, gross margin you typically get?
0:50:45 I’m like, how do you do that?
0:50:48 Or what, what was an advertising campaign that really worked for you?
0:50:54 And so it was kind of that idea, but bringing it virtually and using AI to do some of that.
0:50:54 Wow.
0:50:56 Do you want me to cut that?
0:50:57 Like, if you don’t want, if you don’t want that out there, right?
0:50:58 No, no, leave it in.
0:50:58 That’s fine.
0:50:58 Okay.
0:51:00 Do you have a site for it?
0:51:01 Can we like, we can promote it?
0:51:02 Okay.
0:51:03 I did.
0:51:07 And then I purchased the domain name and then I found a better name and I sent both
0:51:10 of those names to my best friend and said, Hey, which one of these names do you like better?
0:51:12 And she said, I hate both of them.
0:51:13 And so now I don’t know what I’m going to name it.
0:51:15 So no, I don’t have a site yet.
0:51:18 Well, let me know after the fact, and we’ll, we’re happy to plug it in for people listening
0:51:19 in the future.
0:51:21 So you got code playbook.
0:51:22 You got this virtual mastermind thing.
0:51:23 You got, do you even blog?
0:51:24 What’s next?
0:51:26 What’s, uh, what’s on the radar for the rest of this year?
0:51:31 On the radar for the next, this year, I have, uh, I’m selling my second company in the
0:51:32 past couple of months.
0:51:34 So I got one of those offloaded.
0:51:39 I got two or three more apps existing that I’m probably going to sell in about a year.
0:51:43 And I got one more that I started today, which is a really small one.
0:51:44 It’s not going to be like an ongoing thing.
0:51:49 So yeah, the game plan for the next year is to do more of these ideas that we’ve talked
0:51:49 about.
0:51:55 Try and build them up using first and foremost, my existing audience, to be really honest.
0:52:00 And then maybe a little bit of paid advertising, if I have the profits to spend on that and
0:52:03 then selling them and then retiring early, Nick, that’s what we’re here for.
0:52:05 Living that fire lifestyle, man.
0:52:05 Trying to.
0:52:06 All right.
0:52:07 Well, I really appreciate you joining me.
0:52:12 I get a kick out of just brainstorming these ideas and the back and forth and the energy that
0:52:13 I get from that.
0:52:15 I really appreciate you stopping by, taking the time to do that.
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