Sean Illing is joined by Anand Giridharadas, author of The Persuaders: At the Front Lines of the Fight for Hearts, Minds, and Democracy. Together they discuss how polarity is a threat to our democracy, the organizing efforts that are effective, and why there’s hope for a less divisive future in America.
Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area
Guest: Anand Giridharadas (@AnandWrites), author
References:
- The Persuaders: At the Front Lines of the Fight for Hearts, Minds, and Democracy by Anand Giridharadas (Penguin Random House, 202)
- Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World (Penguin Random House, 2022)
- Amanda Marcotte
- “Meet the woman behind Libs of TikTok, secretly fueling the right’s outrage machine” by Taylor Lorenz (The Washington Post, Apr. 19th, 2022)
- Anat Shenker-Osorio
- People’s Action Institute
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- Editorial Director, Vox Talk: A.M. Hall
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