Vox’s Sean Illing talks with Adam Serwer, whose new book The Cruelty Is the Point documents the role of cruelty in American politics, the way it was weaponized by the GOP during the Trump administration, and how these tactics could continue to shape the future of America.
Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox
Guest: Adam Serwer (@AdamSerwer), staff writer, The Atlantic
References:
- The Cruelty is the Point: The Past, Present, and Future of Trump’s America by Adam Serwer (One World; 2021)
- “The Cruelty Is the Point” by Adam Serwer (The Atlantic; Oct. 3, 2018)
- “The Great Awokening” by Matt Yglesias (Vox; Apr. 1, 2019)
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- Producer: Erikk Geannikis
- Editor: Amy Drozdowska
- VP, Vox Audio: Liz Kelly Nelson
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