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0:01:37 Episode 352.
0:01:39 352 is the area code serving Northern Florida.
0:01:42 In 1952, the contraceptive pill was introduced.
0:01:44 What does MAGA use for contraception?
0:01:46 Their personality.
0:01:48 Yeah, I said it.
0:01:49 And by the way,
0:01:52 if you’re going to fill my comments up with how I have Trump derangement syndrome,
0:01:56 just look at what’s going on with the fascist movement in Los Angeles.
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0:02:13 Welcome to the 352nd episode of the Prop G-Pod.
0:02:13 What’s happening?
0:02:15 I am back in London.
0:02:18 I went London, Paris, Paris, Miami,
0:02:21 Miami, New York for a couple days,
0:02:22 then to Detroit for Summit,
0:02:24 and then back home.
0:02:27 The highlight was I did this thing called the Faena Rumble,
0:02:29 where they set it up like a boxing tournament.
0:02:31 And it’s sort of a debate.
0:02:33 The audience asks questions,
0:02:34 you have a minute to respond,
0:02:35 then the other person responds,
0:02:37 and then at the end of the fight,
0:02:40 the audience decides who won the bout.
0:02:43 And I debated a guy named Shermichael Singleton,
0:02:46 who’s a fairly well-known conservative
0:02:49 who’s on CNN a lot.
0:02:52 I would describe him as sort of a Romney or Bush conservative
0:02:53 in that he isn’t fucking crazy
0:02:55 and is pretty thoughtful.
0:02:56 I was really impressed with him.
0:02:58 He’s a really young man, a 34-year-old.
0:03:01 But I went into this.
0:03:03 I agreed to do this because my buddy wanted to do it
0:03:04 and asked me to commit,
0:03:06 because, you know, kind of a big deal.
0:03:09 And then I find out I’m going up against some young Republican,
0:03:10 and it’s like, okay, I’m fucked.
0:03:12 Anyways, it was a lot of fun.
0:03:13 He’s a really impressive kid.
0:03:15 Came back to London last night
0:03:17 to find out that my hometown of Los Angeles
0:03:20 is being occupied by the National Guard.
0:03:21 The last time I happened,
0:03:22 or last time I happened,
0:03:24 I was actually in Los Angeles.
0:03:27 I had returned home from business school.
0:03:28 Was it business school?
0:03:28 I think it was business school.
0:03:29 And I was living with my mom,
0:03:32 and we live in a suburb of Los Angeles, Westwood,
0:03:33 right behind UCLA.
0:03:36 And I came home,
0:03:37 and on every corner,
0:03:39 there were two young men,
0:03:40 they looked 17 and fatigues,
0:03:43 with M15s.
0:03:44 They call them the semi-automatic
0:03:46 that they used to carry way back when.
0:03:48 And it was very odd and very strange
0:03:50 and a very dark moment for us.
0:03:51 But this was back when people
0:03:52 were being pulled out of their cars,
0:03:53 beaten up,
0:03:54 bricks being thrown,
0:03:56 people were killed.
0:03:57 And my understanding is,
0:03:59 having spoken to several people
0:03:59 who live in Los Angeles,
0:04:01 most of my college friends are still there,
0:04:04 there really isn’t anything going on
0:04:06 that would in any way
0:04:08 indicate a need for this type
0:04:10 of brute federal force.
0:04:12 I think this is,
0:04:14 when you think about what you want to do
0:04:15 in your own household
0:04:15 as you get older,
0:04:16 a little bit more mature,
0:04:19 or as the man of the household,
0:04:20 I think your job is oftentimes
0:04:21 to de-escalate.
0:04:22 And that is,
0:04:23 I do that a lot
0:04:24 in confrontations in my house
0:04:25 and my company.
0:04:26 And that is,
0:04:28 I try and de-escalate the situation
0:04:29 such that,
0:04:29 because what happens
0:04:30 when you get to a certain point,
0:04:32 people start saying things
0:04:32 or doing things
0:04:34 that is difficult to take back
0:04:36 and just makes a bad situation
0:04:37 much worse.
0:04:39 And if you think about it,
0:04:39 the whole point,
0:04:41 or one of the wonderful things
0:04:41 about being a president
0:04:43 and having a huge military
0:04:44 and a bully pulpit
0:04:45 that’s the biggest platform
0:04:46 in the world,
0:04:46 arguably,
0:04:48 is you can kind of be
0:04:50 the master de-escalator.
0:04:51 That’s kind of your job.
0:04:52 We’re called on
0:04:53 to try and create peace
0:04:54 and de-escalate.
0:04:56 And this is a perfect example
0:04:57 of doing exactly the opposite.
0:04:58 This is setting up
0:04:59 a confrontation.
0:05:00 This is incendiary.
0:05:02 It’s inflaming emotions.
0:05:03 You’re supposed to only
0:05:04 send in the National Guard.
0:05:04 And by the way,
0:05:05 he’s allowed to do this
0:05:06 under Title XI.
0:05:07 He’s supposed to be able
0:05:08 to use federal resources
0:05:09 to ensure that people’s work
0:05:10 gets done.
0:05:12 But it’s almost always
0:05:13 the governor requested
0:05:14 a natural disaster
0:05:15 when things get out of control
0:05:16 as they did in 1992.
0:05:18 But this is just setting up
0:05:19 a confrontation.
0:05:20 I don’t,
0:05:21 you know,
0:05:22 I have a bias here,
0:05:23 but I believe that ultimately
0:05:24 Governor Newsom
0:05:25 is going to come out of this
0:05:26 probably looking pretty good
0:05:27 because I think
0:05:28 he’s been forceful
0:05:29 yet dignified.
0:05:31 And he’s sort of setting up
0:05:32 the national stage
0:05:34 of Trump versus Newsom,
0:05:35 which I think will ultimately
0:05:35 end up being
0:05:36 kind of J.D. Vance
0:05:38 versus Newsom.
0:05:39 I think Newsom has
0:05:40 stronger prospects
0:05:41 to get the Democratic nomination
0:05:42 than people like.
0:05:42 Why?
0:05:45 I think the nation
0:05:46 is exceptionally luxest
0:05:48 and that he just looks
0:05:48 very presidential.
0:05:49 I also think he has
0:05:50 a good story to tell.
0:05:51 Fourth largest economy
0:05:51 in the world
0:05:52 for all the shitposting
0:05:53 from VCs who leave
0:05:54 to get tax status
0:05:54 in Florida
0:05:55 and then move back.
0:05:57 California’s created
0:05:58 more tax revenue.
0:05:59 It’s a net contributor.
0:06:00 It gives, I believe,
0:06:01 $80 billion
0:06:02 or sends $80 billion
0:06:03 back to the federal government,
0:06:03 whereas a lot of these
0:06:04 red states take money.
0:06:05 For example,
0:06:06 Texas, I think,
0:06:07 takes about $70 billion.
0:06:09 But what is the danger here?
0:06:10 I’d like to think
0:06:11 I’m hoping things
0:06:12 are going to maintain civility
0:06:14 and de-escalate
0:06:15 and that the president
0:06:16 will do his fucking job.
0:06:18 But I’ve always thought
0:06:19 that I’ve always kind of,
0:06:20 you know,
0:06:20 I’m definitely
0:06:21 a glass half empty
0:06:22 kind of person.
0:06:23 So what could go wrong here?
0:06:24 How does America end?
0:06:25 How does America end?
0:06:27 The thing is,
0:06:28 we think of ourselves,
0:06:29 we’re so narcissistic
0:06:29 and think of America
0:06:31 as such a big, powerful,
0:06:32 you know,
0:06:34 and we’re right,
0:06:36 such an unbelievably huge,
0:06:38 dramatic icon,
0:06:39 center of the universe
0:06:40 that if America
0:06:41 were to go out of business
0:06:41 or end,
0:06:42 it would go down with a bang.
0:06:44 I don’t think that’s true.
0:06:45 I think America goes out
0:06:46 of business with a whimper.
0:06:48 And that is,
0:06:49 this is a step towards that.
0:06:50 This is a confrontation
0:06:51 between the federal government
0:06:53 and a politically
0:06:56 oppositional governor
0:06:57 in a liberal state.
0:06:59 Trump is not going to send
0:07:00 federal troops
0:07:01 into a red state.
0:07:02 he’s already,
0:07:03 they’ve already are trying
0:07:04 to demonize Governor Walz
0:07:04 in Minnesota.
0:07:06 Basically,
0:07:07 he’s deciding to weaponize
0:07:08 the federal government
0:07:09 to go after his,
0:07:10 what he perceives
0:07:11 as his political enemies
0:07:12 or to distract
0:07:13 from other things.
0:07:13 I have this big,
0:07:14 beautiful tax bill,
0:07:15 which is just a giant
0:07:17 fucking transfer of wealth
0:07:18 from the poor to the rich,
0:07:19 from the young to the old,
0:07:21 from the future to the past.
0:07:21 Anyway,
0:07:24 this is how America ends.
0:07:24 And I think,
0:07:24 again,
0:07:25 it’s with a,
0:07:26 it’s with a whimper.
0:07:27 And that is,
0:07:29 there’s a confrontation.
0:07:30 I don’t know if it results
0:07:31 in violence or not,
0:07:33 but maybe Governor Newsom
0:07:33 says we’re no longer
0:07:35 going to send our tax revenue
0:07:36 back to the federal government.
0:07:37 We’re just going to hold on to it.
0:07:38 That ends up
0:07:40 in another confrontation.
0:07:41 There is an election.
0:07:43 So you can now see states
0:07:44 that have economies
0:07:45 the size of a European nation
0:07:45 decide,
0:07:46 no,
0:07:47 we’re no longer signed up
0:07:48 for the federal government
0:07:49 or what the people
0:07:50 have decided
0:07:50 on the Democratic
0:07:52 or the Republican side.
0:07:53 and we have a series
0:07:55 of small nation states.
0:07:57 California is a tech-centered economy
0:07:58 that does a lot of business
0:07:59 with Asia.
0:08:01 The South is,
0:08:02 or Texas would be,
0:08:04 a oil and gas-centered economy
0:08:05 doing a lot of business
0:08:06 with the Gulf,
0:08:07 if you will,
0:08:08 or overseas
0:08:09 or whoever needs oil.
0:08:10 The Midwest
0:08:12 is a manufacturing economy
0:08:12 doing a lot of business
0:08:13 with Canada.
0:08:15 And I could see
0:08:16 the East Coast
0:08:17 breaking into its own fiefdom
0:08:18 where it’s mostly
0:08:19 about trade with Europe
0:08:20 and finance
0:08:21 and financial services.
0:08:23 And this is the new
0:08:25 dis-united states of America.
0:08:26 And how does America
0:08:27 come to an end?
0:08:29 Not with a bang,
0:08:30 but with a whimper.
0:08:32 That was somber, wasn’t it?
0:08:33 Wasn’t that light and cheery?
0:08:34 Wasn’t that,
0:08:35 aren’t I just a little bucket
0:08:36 of sunshine today?
0:08:37 Anyways,
0:08:38 in today’s episode,
0:08:40 we speak with Barry Diller,
0:08:41 a businessman known
0:08:41 for his influential roles
0:08:42 in media and entertainment
0:08:43 and the chairman
0:08:44 and senior executive of ISE.
0:08:46 We discuss with Barry
0:08:47 his origin story,
0:08:48 the current state of media
0:08:48 and streaming,
0:08:49 and his new book,
0:08:50 Who Knew,
0:08:51 out now.
0:08:52 But I really enjoy
0:08:53 Barry Diller.
0:08:55 He was a media mogul
0:08:56 when I was in college.
0:08:56 This guy,
0:08:57 as you’ll hear,
0:08:58 he was doing,
0:08:58 he was in charge
0:08:59 of Movie of the Week.
0:09:00 And if you’re my age,
0:09:00 you remember that
0:09:02 when he was in his early 20s.
0:09:02 Anyways,
0:09:03 with that,
0:09:04 here’s our conversation
0:09:05 with Barry Diller.
0:09:13 Barry,
0:09:14 where does this podcast
0:09:14 find you?
0:09:16 I’m in my New York office.
0:09:18 Is that the big sales?
0:09:19 Yes,
0:09:20 it’s the Sailcloth
0:09:21 Frank Gehry building.
0:09:22 Yeah,
0:09:23 it’s a beautiful building.
0:09:24 I’ve done several events there.
0:09:25 So,
0:09:26 let’s bust right into this.
0:09:28 I want to get your origin story.
0:09:29 I remember being,
0:09:31 I remember my senior year
0:09:31 at UCLA,
0:09:32 I had a job
0:09:33 selling insurance
0:09:34 and I wanted to break
0:09:35 into media
0:09:35 and I had a friend
0:09:36 named Tom Noonan
0:09:38 and he worked
0:09:39 for you
0:09:40 like two levels down
0:09:41 or he knew you.
0:09:43 you were already
0:09:43 kind of a master
0:09:45 of the universe then.
0:09:45 But what,
0:09:46 is this like
0:09:47 ancient history
0:09:48 we’re doing here?
0:09:48 Like,
0:09:50 is this like 1912?
0:09:50 No,
0:09:52 this is like 1987.
0:09:54 I think you were at Fox.
0:09:54 In 1987,
0:09:55 I was at Fox.
0:09:56 Yeah,
0:09:57 so,
0:09:58 I would just love
0:09:59 to get your origin story
0:10:00 and how you ended up
0:10:01 in,
0:10:02 as a fairly young man,
0:10:03 kind of being a captain
0:10:05 of media industry.
0:10:05 Like,
0:10:06 give us the origin story,
0:10:07 Barry Diller.
0:10:09 Let’s do
0:10:10 when I kind of
0:10:11 went to work
0:10:12 since I had
0:10:14 no seeming ambition
0:10:15 until I walked
0:10:15 into the
0:10:17 William Morris Agency
0:10:19 as a mailboy,
0:10:19 basically,
0:10:20 although I never
0:10:21 really delivered mail
0:10:23 and I ended up
0:10:24 reading the file room
0:10:26 and at that time,
0:10:27 file rooms were,
0:10:29 this was a huge room
0:10:30 with big file cabinets
0:10:32 and in it
0:10:33 was basically
0:10:33 the history
0:10:34 of the entertainment business.
0:10:36 I found a way
0:10:37 not to deliver mail
0:10:38 or do what the other
0:10:39 guys were doing,
0:10:40 which were trying
0:10:41 to be agents,
0:10:42 which I never wanted to be
0:10:43 and I basically read
0:10:44 the entire file room
0:10:46 and that was
0:10:49 the most fortuitous thing
0:10:50 because I got
0:10:52 the entire,
0:10:52 I mean,
0:10:53 William Morris
0:10:53 had been in business
0:10:54 then for
0:10:57 70 years or something
0:10:58 and it represented
0:10:59 almost everyone
0:11:00 so it had
0:11:01 all the history.
0:11:02 So I read
0:11:03 The Life of Elvis Presley.
0:11:04 I read the,
0:11:04 I mean,
0:11:05 it was just
0:11:07 incredible basing
0:11:08 and then
0:11:10 I got serendipitously lucky
0:11:11 in that
0:11:13 they wouldn’t throw me
0:11:14 out of William Morris
0:11:15 because I never wanted
0:11:15 to be an agent
0:11:17 and they only
0:11:19 did these mailboy things
0:11:20 in order to turn people
0:11:22 into productive agents
0:11:23 and I was never
0:11:23 going to be that
0:11:25 and I’d finished
0:11:26 kind of the file room
0:11:27 and I think they were
0:11:27 getting ready
0:11:28 to throw me out
0:11:29 and luckily
0:11:30 I took
0:11:32 the only job
0:11:34 that I was offered
0:11:34 which was to be
0:11:35 the assistant
0:11:37 to what I thought
0:11:39 was a middle level
0:11:41 job at ABC
0:11:43 in Los Angeles
0:11:45 in what was called
0:11:45 current programming
0:11:47 and the day
0:11:48 that I accepted
0:11:49 that job
0:11:50 they fired the czar
0:11:50 of ABC
0:11:52 and they reached out
0:11:52 and they picked
0:11:53 my guy
0:11:53 so instead of
0:11:54 being the assistant
0:11:55 to this West Coast person
0:11:56 I moved to New York
0:11:58 to be the assistant
0:11:58 to the head
0:11:59 of the network
0:12:00 and within six months
0:12:00 I was kind of running
0:12:01 the program department
0:12:02 so there you go
0:12:03 that was
0:12:05 at age 23
0:12:07 There’s something
0:12:08 that clearly came
0:12:08 from your
0:12:10 even earlier than that
0:12:11 what influences
0:12:12 growing up
0:12:13 gave you that type
0:12:13 of drive
0:12:14 that type of creativity
0:12:15 like when you look
0:12:16 back on your childhood
0:12:17 and how you were raised
0:12:18 is there anything
0:12:18 or people
0:12:19 that stand out?
0:12:21 I think that
0:12:22 all of the things
0:12:24 that were
0:12:25 enormously
0:12:26 enormous difficulties
0:12:27 for me
0:12:28 all those kind
0:12:30 of insecurities
0:12:31 inadequacies
0:12:33 feeling that I had
0:12:33 no self
0:12:34 that I didn’t deserve
0:12:36 for all sorts
0:12:37 of excuses
0:12:38 of sexual confusion
0:12:39 and stuff
0:12:40 and one big secret
0:12:42 which if you have
0:12:42 one big secret
0:12:44 and it’s an
0:12:45 overwhelming one
0:12:46 it tends
0:12:47 to let
0:12:48 all the other
0:12:49 risks
0:12:50 reduce in size
0:12:51 so you can take
0:12:52 these giant
0:12:53 risks
0:12:53 because the
0:12:54 big risk
0:12:55 is just
0:12:56 obliviating
0:12:57 everything else
0:12:57 so
0:12:59 that’s
0:13:00 in a way
0:13:01 not that God
0:13:02 knows I wanted it
0:13:03 but
0:13:04 it allowed me
0:13:05 to take
0:13:05 risks
0:13:06 everywhere else
0:13:07 my family
0:13:08 never thought
0:13:09 that I would
0:13:10 actually ever work
0:13:11 and they were
0:13:12 had resources
0:13:13 enough that it
0:13:14 didn’t really matter
0:13:15 but
0:13:16 I had no
0:13:16 seeming ambition
0:13:18 up until the age
0:13:19 of really 19
0:13:21 and I didn’t
0:13:21 really want to
0:13:22 go to school
0:13:23 and I was
0:13:23 kind of just
0:13:24 hibernating
0:13:25 but once
0:13:26 I found
0:13:27 actually when I
0:13:28 walked into
0:13:29 that William Morris
0:13:29 agency
0:13:30 because I’d always
0:13:31 been interested
0:13:31 in the entertainment
0:13:31 business
0:13:32 when I walked in
0:13:34 and I started
0:13:35 reading about
0:13:37 that world
0:13:39 that just
0:13:39 drew me
0:13:40 like the
0:13:40 fiercest
0:13:41 magnet
0:13:42 and that
0:13:42 ignited
0:13:44 this
0:13:45 I don’t know
0:13:45 where that
0:13:45 ambition
0:13:46 was but
0:13:47 it was
0:13:47 certainly
0:13:48 born
0:13:49 of
0:13:50 not
0:13:50 feeling
0:13:50 that
0:13:51 there was
0:13:51 any
0:13:52 self
0:13:53 or
0:13:53 that
0:13:54 I
0:13:55 deserved
0:13:56 any
0:13:56 self
0:13:57 and therefore
0:13:58 that fuel
0:13:58 that was
0:13:59 just
0:13:59 big
0:13:59 fuel
0:14:00 for me
0:14:01 you said
0:14:02 something
0:14:03 off mic
0:14:04 I was saying
0:14:05 I wanted
0:14:05 to talk
0:14:05 more about
0:14:06 business
0:14:06 because everyone’s
0:14:07 focused on
0:14:07 other parts
0:14:08 of the book
0:14:09 but you said
0:14:10 that you’re
0:14:11 quote unquote
0:14:11 secret
0:14:12 and I assume
0:14:12 that’s your
0:14:13 sexuality
0:14:13 you’re talking
0:14:14 about
0:14:15 well let me
0:14:16 ask you this
0:14:17 if you were
0:14:18 a 20s
0:14:18 something
0:14:19 executive
0:14:19 in today’s
0:14:19 Hollywood
0:14:20 which is
0:14:21 much more
0:14:22 accepting
0:14:23 of people’s
0:14:23 sexual orientation
0:14:24 do you not
0:14:24 think you’d be
0:14:25 as successful
0:14:26 as you were
0:14:28 god I don’t
0:14:29 have a clue
0:14:29 I think
0:14:31 no I
0:14:31 I think I
0:14:32 would not
0:14:32 have
0:14:33 I definitely
0:14:34 think
0:14:35 that the
0:14:36 tools that
0:14:37 I developed
0:14:38 out of
0:14:39 all of
0:14:39 these seeming
0:14:40 disadvantages
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0:21:30 that
0:21:30 because
0:21:31 after
0:21:31 we
0:21:31 made
0:21:31 these
0:21:31 movies
0:21:32 I
0:21:32 was
0:21:32 kind
0:21:32 of
0:21:33 used
0:21:33 to
0:21:33 the
0:21:33 process
0:21:34 to
0:21:34 say
0:21:34 the
0:21:34 least
0:21:35 and
0:21:36 I
0:21:36 thought
0:21:36 that
0:21:37 you
0:21:37 know
0:21:37 there
0:21:37 were
0:21:38 books
0:21:38 that
0:21:38 were
0:21:38 made
0:21:39 into
0:21:39 movies
0:21:39 but
0:21:40 big
0:21:41 sprawling
0:21:41 epic
0:21:42 novels
0:21:43 you
0:21:43 can’t
0:21:43 tell
0:21:43 that
0:21:44 story
0:21:44 in
0:21:44 two
0:21:44 hours
0:21:45 really
0:21:46 and
0:21:46 I
0:21:46 thought
0:21:46 television
0:21:46 has
0:21:47 all
0:21:47 this
0:21:47 time
0:21:47 so
0:21:48 why
0:21:48 not
0:21:49 do
0:21:49 long
0:21:50 long
0:21:50 form
0:21:51 which
0:21:51 we
0:21:52 called
0:21:52 the
0:21:52 novel
0:21:52 for
0:21:53 television
0:21:53 which
0:21:53 evolved
0:21:54 into
0:21:54 the
0:21:54 miniseries
0:21:55 which
0:21:55 we
0:21:55 all
0:21:55 live
0:21:56 with
0:21:57 today
0:21:57 for
0:21:58 sure
0:21:58 in
0:21:59 streaming
0:21:59 and
0:22:00 that
0:22:00 created
0:22:00 like
0:22:01 the
0:22:01 next
0:22:01 bump
0:22:01 because
0:22:02 that
0:22:02 was
0:22:02 this
0:22:03 out
0:22:03 of
0:22:03 nowhere
0:22:04 huge
0:22:09 a
0:22:09 thrust
0:22:11 really
0:22:11 early
0:22:12 and
0:22:13 I
0:22:13 don’t
0:22:13 know
0:22:13 it
0:22:13 was
0:22:14 that
0:22:14 because
0:22:14 it
0:22:14 was
0:22:14 a
0:22:15 confluence
0:22:15 of
0:22:15 other
0:22:15 events
0:22:16 that
0:22:16 landed
0:22:16 me
0:22:17 at
0:22:17 Paramount
0:22:18 and
0:22:18 the
0:22:18 movie
0:22:19 business
0:22:20 at
0:22:20 also
0:22:20 a
0:22:21 really
0:22:21 young
0:22:21 age
0:22:22 and
0:22:23 I
0:22:23 was
0:22:24 always
0:22:24 the
0:22:24 youngest
0:22:25 and
0:22:26 now
0:22:26 I’m
0:22:26 always
0:22:26 the
0:22:27 oldest
0:22:28 yeah
0:22:28 it’s
0:22:28 weird
0:22:29 I
0:22:29 often
0:22:29 say
0:22:30 I
0:22:30 used
0:22:30 to
0:22:30 walk
0:22:30 into
0:22:31 every
0:22:31 room
0:22:31 be
0:22:31 the
0:22:31 youngest
0:22:31 now
0:22:32 walk
0:22:32 into
0:22:32 every
0:22:32 room
0:22:32 when
0:22:32 I’m
0:22:32 the
0:22:33 oldest
0:22:33 I
0:22:33 was
0:22:33 never
0:22:33 the
0:22:33 same
0:22:34 age
0:22:34 just
0:22:34 go
0:22:35 so
0:22:35 fast
0:22:36 what
0:22:37 so
0:22:37 you
0:22:37 you’re
0:22:37 sort
0:22:37 of
0:22:38 a
0:22:38 decathlete
0:22:38 in terms
0:22:39 of
0:22:39 different
0:22:39 types
0:22:39 of
0:22:39 content
0:22:40 you
0:22:40 started
0:22:40 in
0:22:40 TV
0:22:41 and
0:22:41 then
0:22:41 you
0:22:41 transition
0:22:42 to
0:22:42 movies
0:22:43 how
0:22:43 is
0:22:44 that
0:22:44 different
0:22:44 or
0:22:45 what
0:22:45 what
0:22:46 skills
0:22:47 is
0:22:47 it
0:22:47 the
0:22:47 same
0:22:48 skills
0:22:48 or
0:22:48 did
0:22:48 you
0:22:48 need
0:22:48 to
0:22:49 develop
0:22:49 different
0:22:49 management
0:22:50 and
0:22:50 different
0:22:50 capital
0:22:51 allocation
0:22:51 skills
0:22:53 it’s
0:22:53 the
0:22:53 same
0:22:54 tool
0:22:54 set
0:22:54 I’d
0:22:54 say
0:22:55 but
0:22:55 it’s
0:22:56 applied
0:22:56 to
0:22:56 totally
0:22:57 different
0:22:58 organizations
0:22:59 the
0:23:00 movie
0:23:01 business
0:23:01 you know
0:23:02 television
0:23:03 if you
0:23:04 didn’t
0:23:05 get it
0:23:06 delivered
0:23:06 on
0:23:07 7
0:23:07 at
0:23:08 730
0:23:08 on a
0:23:09 Tuesday
0:23:09 night
0:23:10 you know
0:23:10 the
0:23:11 screen
0:23:11 went
0:23:11 dark
0:23:12 in the
0:23:13 movie
0:23:13 business
0:23:13 if you
0:23:14 didn’t
0:23:14 make a
0:23:14 movie
0:23:15 nobody
0:23:15 knew
0:23:16 nobody
0:23:16 cared
0:23:17 so
0:23:17 the
0:23:18 rhythms
0:23:18 are just
0:23:19 so
0:23:19 completely
0:23:19 different
0:23:20 and the
0:23:20 industry
0:23:21 movie
0:23:21 industry
0:23:23 at its
0:23:23 height
0:23:23 of
0:23:24 snobism
0:23:24 I don’t
0:23:25 think it’s
0:23:25 diverted
0:23:26 that
0:23:26 much
0:23:27 today
0:23:27 from
0:23:28 what
0:23:28 it
0:23:28 was
0:23:28 then
0:23:28 in
0:23:29 terms
0:23:29 of
0:23:29 looking
0:23:29 down
0:23:30 on
0:23:30 almost
0:23:31 all
0:23:31 other
0:23:32 forms
0:23:33 but now
0:23:34 the world
0:23:34 is so
0:23:34 I don’t
0:23:35 know even
0:23:35 what the
0:23:36 definition
0:23:36 of a
0:23:36 movie
0:23:37 is
0:23:37 anymore
0:23:38 given
0:23:38 the
0:23:39 Netflix
0:23:40 of life
0:23:40 but
0:23:41 the
0:23:42 movie
0:23:42 companies
0:23:43 in the
0:23:44 this is
0:23:44 in the
0:23:45 70s
0:23:46 dominated
0:23:47 world
0:23:47 culture
0:23:48 to such
0:23:48 an
0:23:49 extent
0:23:50 and
0:23:51 so
0:23:52 and
0:23:52 you only
0:23:53 did
0:23:53 we
0:23:54 never
0:23:54 made
0:23:55 we
0:23:55 paramount
0:23:56 made
0:23:57 probably
0:23:57 fewer
0:23:58 movies
0:23:58 than
0:23:58 most
0:23:58 other
0:23:59 companies
0:23:59 other
0:24:00 studios
0:24:00 of
0:24:00 which
0:24:00 there
0:24:01 were
0:24:01 five
0:24:01 dominant
0:24:02 ones
0:24:03 we
0:24:03 made
0:24:04 maybe
0:24:05 15
0:24:05 to
0:24:06 18
0:24:06 movies
0:24:06 a
0:24:06 year
0:24:07 other
0:24:07 people
0:24:07 made
0:24:08 25
0:24:08 to
0:24:08 30
0:24:10 so
0:24:10 so
0:24:10 so
0:24:10 that’s
0:24:12 putting
0:24:12 your
0:24:12 tent
0:24:12 up
0:24:12 and
0:24:13 taking
0:24:13 it
0:24:13 down
0:24:13 every
0:24:14 month
0:24:14 or
0:24:14 so
0:24:15 it’s
0:24:15 a
0:24:16 completely
0:24:17 different
0:24:17 rhythm
0:24:18 and I
0:24:19 had
0:24:20 first of all
0:24:21 the movie
0:24:22 people peed
0:24:22 on people
0:24:23 from television
0:24:23 so
0:24:24 I
0:24:24 had
0:24:25 the good
0:24:26 and the
0:24:26 bad
0:24:27 of
0:24:27 people
0:24:28 so
0:24:29 discounting
0:24:29 saying
0:24:30 well I’d be
0:24:30 thrown out
0:24:31 soon
0:24:31 because a
0:24:32 television person
0:24:32 could never
0:24:33 succeed in the
0:24:34 exalted movie
0:24:34 world
0:24:37 and so
0:24:37 they kind of
0:24:38 left me
0:24:38 alone for a
0:24:38 couple of
0:24:39 years
0:24:39 where
0:24:40 I figured
0:24:41 out how to
0:24:42 make the
0:24:42 company run
0:24:44 the way I was
0:24:44 comfortable with
0:24:46 and that
0:24:46 was a
0:24:47 very very
0:24:48 hard
0:24:49 time
0:24:49 where I
0:24:50 certainly
0:24:50 failed
0:24:50 first
0:24:51 because I
0:24:51 believe
0:24:52 almost
0:24:53 everything
0:24:54 I’ve ever
0:24:54 done
0:24:54 you kind
0:24:54 of
0:24:55 at least
0:24:55 in my
0:24:56 mind
0:24:56 fail
0:24:56 first
0:24:57 before
0:24:57 you
0:24:57 succeed
0:24:59 and so
0:25:00 it was a
0:25:01 completely
0:25:02 different
0:25:02 process
0:25:02 that I
0:25:03 had to
0:25:03 adapt
0:25:03 to
0:25:04 I was
0:25:04 using
0:25:05 the same
0:25:06 basically
0:25:07 toolkit
0:25:08 of
0:25:09 in my
0:25:09 case
0:25:09 which was
0:25:10 developing
0:25:11 material
0:25:11 rather than
0:25:11 buying
0:25:12 packages
0:25:13 made up
0:25:14 to form
0:25:15 directors
0:25:15 actors
0:25:16 writers
0:25:16 etc
0:25:17 that were
0:25:18 given to
0:25:18 studios
0:25:18 by
0:25:19 agencies
0:25:20 I
0:25:20 wanted
0:25:20 to
0:25:21 develop
0:25:21 I’ve
0:25:21 always
0:25:22 thought
0:25:22 it was
0:25:22 my
0:25:22 first
0:25:23 thing
0:25:23 of
0:25:23 developing
0:25:24 material
0:25:25 so
0:25:25 I
0:25:25 wanted
0:25:25 to
0:25:25 develop
0:25:26 material
0:25:26 that
0:25:26 takes
0:25:26 a
0:25:27 long
0:25:27 time
0:25:27 to
0:25:27 do
0:25:28 but
0:25:29 that
0:25:30 process
0:25:30 has
0:25:30 never
0:25:31 changed
0:25:31 for me
0:25:33 so
0:25:33 while you
0:25:33 were there
0:25:34 I just
0:25:34 want to
0:25:34 review
0:25:35 this
0:25:35 you
0:25:35 decided
0:25:36 to go
0:25:36 back
0:25:36 to
0:25:37 TV
0:25:37 and
0:25:38 essentially
0:25:38 started
0:25:39 the
0:25:39 Fox
0:25:40 television
0:25:40 network
0:25:41 where
0:25:41 Married
0:25:41 with
0:25:42 Children
0:25:42 and
0:25:42 The
0:25:43 Simpsons
0:25:43 were
0:25:44 sort
0:25:44 of
0:25:44 the
0:25:44 pillars
0:25:45 there
0:25:45 talk
0:25:46 why
0:25:46 did
0:25:46 you
0:25:46 go
0:25:46 back
0:25:46 to
0:25:47 TV
0:25:48 and
0:25:48 tell
0:25:48 us
0:25:48 a little
0:25:49 bit
0:25:49 about
0:25:50 those
0:25:50 two
0:25:50 shows
0:25:50 because
0:25:51 someone
0:25:52 told me
0:25:52 The Simpsons
0:25:53 is the
0:25:53 most
0:25:53 profitable
0:25:54 TV show
0:25:55 in history
0:25:56 that is
0:25:56 true
0:25:57 back in
0:25:58 the TV
0:25:58 when I
0:25:59 left
0:26:00 Paramount
0:26:01 to go
0:26:01 to Fox
0:26:02 I tried
0:26:03 to start
0:26:04 a fourth
0:26:04 network
0:26:05 there were
0:26:06 at that
0:26:06 time
0:26:06 three
0:26:06 networks
0:26:07 which
0:26:07 got
0:26:08 100%
0:26:08 of the
0:26:08 viewing
0:26:08 there
0:26:08 wasn’t
0:26:09 cable
0:26:10 I mean
0:26:10 cable
0:26:10 was
0:26:11 just
0:26:11 getting
0:26:12 a better
0:26:12 signal
0:26:14 and
0:26:14 so
0:26:15 three
0:26:15 networks
0:26:16 dominated
0:26:16 everything
0:26:16 and I
0:26:17 thought
0:26:17 I had
0:26:17 thought
0:26:17 over
0:26:17 the
0:26:18 years
0:26:18 that
0:26:18 while
0:26:18 they
0:26:19 started
0:26:19 out
0:26:19 with
0:26:19 different
0:26:20 personalities
0:26:21 by
0:26:22 the
0:26:23 80s
0:26:24 they all
0:26:25 talked
0:26:25 looked
0:26:25 and
0:26:26 acted
0:26:26 like
0:26:27 and
0:26:27 I
0:26:28 thought
0:26:29 well
0:26:30 that’s
0:26:30 interesting
0:26:30 there’s
0:26:31 room
0:26:31 for
0:26:32 I mean
0:26:32 maybe
0:26:32 room
0:26:33 for
0:26:34 an
0:26:34 alternative
0:26:35 to
0:26:35 that
0:26:35 so
0:26:36 when
0:26:36 I
0:26:36 got
0:26:37 to
0:26:37 Fox
0:26:38 and
0:26:38 their
0:26:39 confluence
0:26:39 against
0:26:40 serendipitous
0:26:40 events
0:26:41 I was able
0:26:41 to get
0:26:42 a bunch
0:26:42 of television
0:26:43 stations
0:26:44 that we
0:26:44 could buy
0:26:45 and
0:26:46 start
0:26:46 this
0:26:47 fourth
0:26:47 network
0:26:48 and
0:26:49 in the
0:26:50 beginning
0:26:51 you know
0:26:51 we didn’t
0:26:52 find our
0:26:52 vein
0:26:53 until
0:26:54 I got
0:26:55 a script
0:26:55 called
0:26:56 Not
0:26:56 the
0:26:56 Cosbys
0:26:57 and
0:26:57 now
0:26:58 Not
0:26:58 the
0:26:59 Cosbys
0:26:59 means
0:26:59 Bill
0:27:00 Cosby
0:27:00 show
0:27:00 was
0:27:00 number
0:27:01 one
0:27:01 on
0:27:01 television
0:27:01 had
0:27:01 been
0:27:02 for
0:27:02 many
0:27:02 years
0:27:03 and
0:27:03 so
0:27:03 when
0:27:04 I
0:27:04 saw
0:27:04 the
0:27:04 title
0:27:04 Not
0:27:05 the
0:27:05 Cosbys
0:27:05 I
0:27:05 was
0:27:05 oh
0:27:06 that’s
0:27:06 like
0:27:07 interesting
0:27:08 and
0:27:08 and
0:27:09 it
0:27:10 was
0:27:10 an
0:27:10 anti
0:27:11 establishment
0:27:11 family
0:27:12 which
0:27:12 we
0:27:13 later
0:27:13 called
0:27:14 married
0:27:14 with
0:27:15 children
0:27:16 and
0:27:16 that
0:27:17 I
0:27:17 knew
0:27:17 we’d
0:27:18 struck
0:27:18 the
0:27:19 vein
0:27:20 and
0:27:20 shortly
0:27:21 thereafter
0:27:23 we’d
0:27:23 had a
0:27:23 show
0:27:24 called
0:27:24 Tracy
0:27:24 Ullman
0:27:25 and
0:27:25 in it
0:27:25 were
0:27:26 these
0:27:26 interstitials
0:27:27 that
0:27:27 Matt
0:27:27 Groening
0:27:28 did
0:27:28 with his
0:27:29 character
0:27:29 The Simpsons
0:27:30 and Jim
0:27:30 Brooks
0:27:31 great director
0:27:32 who made
0:27:32 terms of
0:27:33 Endearment
0:27:33 etc.
0:27:34 said
0:27:35 who produced
0:27:35 Tracy
0:27:36 Ullman
0:27:36 said
0:27:37 I
0:27:37 think
0:27:37 we
0:27:37 could
0:27:38 make
0:27:38 this
0:27:38 into
0:27:38 a
0:27:38 series
0:27:40 and
0:27:40 I
0:27:40 said
0:27:41 yes
0:27:42 absolutely
0:27:42 now
0:27:42 at
0:27:42 that
0:27:43 time
0:27:44 because
0:27:44 animation
0:27:44 took
0:27:45 six
0:27:45 months
0:27:45 and
0:27:46 whatever
0:27:46 we
0:27:46 had
0:27:46 to
0:27:46 commit
0:27:47 to
0:27:47 13
0:27:47 episodes
0:27:48 without
0:27:49 making
0:27:49 quote
0:27:50 pilot
0:27:50 etc.
0:27:51 So
0:27:51 it was
0:27:51 a big
0:27:52 commitment
0:27:52 we did
0:27:52 it
0:27:53 and
0:27:53 made
0:27:54 the
0:27:54 13
0:27:54 episodes
0:27:55 and
0:27:56 we
0:27:56 hadn’t
0:27:57 scheduled
0:27:57 yet
0:27:57 and
0:27:57 the
0:27:58 first
0:27:58 episode
0:27:58 came
0:27:59 back
0:27:59 again
0:27:59 like
0:27:59 six
0:28:00 eight
0:28:00 months
0:28:00 later
0:28:02 and
0:28:02 we
0:28:02 had
0:28:02 this
0:28:03 viewing
0:28:03 and
0:28:04 actually
0:28:05 Jim
0:28:05 Brooks’s
0:28:05 little
0:28:06 bungalow
0:28:06 on the
0:28:06 Fox
0:28:07 lot
0:28:08 and
0:28:08 I
0:28:08 brought
0:28:09 the
0:28:09 sales
0:28:10 department
0:28:10 some
0:28:10 other
0:28:11 like
0:28:11 12
0:28:11 people
0:28:12 there’s
0:28:12 one
0:28:12 of
0:28:12 those
0:28:13 screenings
0:28:13 where
0:28:14 Jim
0:28:14 Brooks
0:28:15 and I
0:28:15 are
0:28:15 the
0:28:16 only
0:28:16 people
0:28:16 laughing
0:28:18 and
0:28:18 when
0:28:18 you’re
0:28:19 laughing
0:28:19 at
0:28:20 material
0:28:21 that
0:28:21 you’ve
0:28:21 already
0:28:22 seen
0:28:22 before
0:28:22 you’re
0:28:23 really
0:28:23 doing
0:28:23 it
0:28:24 to
0:28:25 try
0:28:25 and
0:28:25 get
0:28:25 other
0:28:25 people
0:28:26 to
0:28:26 laugh
0:28:27 so
0:28:27 it’s
0:28:27 like
0:28:28 over
0:28:28 performance
0:28:29 and
0:28:29 there
0:28:29 Jim
0:28:30 and I
0:28:30 are
0:28:30 hooking
0:28:31 it
0:28:31 up
0:28:32 stone
0:28:32 faced
0:28:33 every
0:28:33 other
0:28:33 person
0:28:34 in
0:28:34 the
0:28:34 room
0:28:35 we
0:28:35 walk
0:28:36 out
0:28:37 with
0:28:37 my
0:28:38 group
0:28:38 out
0:28:38 of
0:28:39 the
0:28:39 bungalow
0:28:40 back
0:28:40 up
0:28:40 to
0:28:40 our
0:28:40 offices
0:28:41 and
0:28:42 these
0:28:42 guys
0:28:42 said
0:28:42 well
0:28:43 can’t
0:28:43 air
0:28:44 that
0:28:44 I
0:28:44 mean
0:28:45 a
0:28:45 cartoon
0:28:46 and
0:28:47 I
0:28:47 thought
0:28:48 as
0:28:48 Jim
0:28:48 did
0:28:48 this
0:28:49 is
0:28:49 great
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0:33:12 called
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0:33:43 screens
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0:34:36 later
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0:34:51 came
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0:35:01 never
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0:35:11 what
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0:35:26 Don
0:35:27 Steele
0:35:29 one of
0:35:29 my
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0:35:30 Tim
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0:35:32 speaks
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0:35:42 investment
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0:35:43 and
0:35:43 this
0:35:43 person
0:35:43 could
0:35:45 play
0:35:45 a
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0:35:46 role
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0:35:47 do
0:35:48 you
0:35:48 spot
0:35:48 in
0:35:49 people
0:35:49 and
0:35:49 think
0:35:49 this
0:35:50 person
0:35:50 is
0:35:50 a
0:35:50 comer
0:35:51 spark
0:35:53 energy
0:35:53 edge
0:35:54 being
0:35:55 alive
0:35:55 to
0:35:55 the
0:35:55 moment
0:35:56 and
0:35:56 that’s
0:35:56 all
0:35:57 I
0:35:57 need
0:35:57 I
0:35:57 don’t
0:35:58 like
0:35:59 education
0:36:01 unless
0:36:02 they’re
0:36:02 you know
0:36:02 tool
0:36:03 sets
0:36:03 you need
0:36:03 to do
0:36:03 a
0:36:04 specific
0:36:04 task
0:36:05 but
0:36:06 education
0:36:06 doesn’t
0:36:07 impress
0:36:07 me
0:36:08 certainly
0:36:08 MBAs
0:36:08 don’t
0:36:09 impress
0:36:09 me
0:36:09 I
0:36:09 think
0:36:09 they’re
0:36:10 over
0:36:10 educated
0:36:11 or
0:36:11 narrowly
0:36:11 over
0:36:12 educated
0:36:14 and
0:36:15 I
0:36:15 just
0:36:15 look
0:36:16 for
0:36:16 somebody
0:36:16 who’s
0:36:17 got
0:36:18 some
0:36:18 spark
0:36:19 and
0:36:20 edge
0:36:20 doesn’t
0:36:21 have
0:36:21 to
0:36:21 have
0:36:21 an
0:36:21 original
0:36:22 mind
0:36:23 just
0:36:23 has
0:36:23 has
0:36:24 to
0:36:24 have
0:36:24 a
0:36:25 live
0:36:25 mind
0:36:25 and
0:36:25 be
0:36:26 open
0:36:26 to
0:36:27 possibilities
0:36:27 and
0:36:28 be
0:36:28 curious
0:36:28 if I
0:36:29 see
0:36:29 that
0:36:31 that’s
0:36:31 enough
0:36:31 to
0:36:32 start
0:36:32 and
0:36:33 every
0:36:33 one
0:36:33 of
0:36:33 the
0:36:34 people
0:36:34 you
0:36:34 mentioned
0:36:36 almost
0:36:36 almost
0:36:36 almost
0:36:36 everyone
0:36:37 that’s
0:36:37 come
0:36:37 into
0:36:37 my
0:36:37 life
0:36:37 in
0:36:37 that
0:36:38 way
0:36:39 usually
0:36:39 comes
0:36:39 in
0:36:40 at
0:36:40 the
0:36:40 junior
0:36:41 of
0:36:41 levels
0:36:43 and
0:36:44 you
0:36:44 see
0:36:45 that
0:36:46 little
0:36:46 spark
0:36:46 or
0:36:46 whatever
0:36:47 it
0:36:47 is
0:36:48 and
0:36:50 I
0:36:50 don’t
0:36:50 like
0:36:50 I
0:36:51 think
0:36:51 mentoring
0:36:51 is
0:36:51 a
0:36:52 it’s
0:36:53 cut
0:36:53 into
0:36:53 official
0:36:54 like
0:36:55 choose
0:36:55 your
0:36:55 mentor
0:36:55 me
0:36:56 or
0:36:56 whatever
0:36:56 all
0:36:56 that
0:36:57 stuff
0:36:57 I
0:36:58 think
0:36:58 it’s
0:36:58 a
0:36:58 little
0:36:59 high
0:36:59 flown
0:37:00 but
0:37:01 I
0:37:01 think
0:37:02 if
0:37:02 you
0:37:02 get
0:37:02 people
0:37:02 at
0:37:02 the
0:37:03 earliest
0:37:03 age
0:37:03 and
0:37:03 they
0:37:04 get
0:37:04 into
0:37:04 your
0:37:05 environment
0:37:06 and
0:37:06 you
0:37:06 can
0:37:07 bash
0:37:07 around
0:37:08 with
0:37:08 them
0:37:09 in
0:37:09 different
0:37:10 roles
0:37:10 that
0:37:10 they
0:37:10 could
0:37:11 play
0:37:12 and
0:37:12 then
0:37:13 they
0:37:13 grow
0:37:13 up
0:37:14 within
0:37:14 the
0:37:16 organization
0:37:17 they
0:37:17 just
0:37:18 get
0:37:18 big
0:37:19 dosages
0:37:19 of
0:37:19 everything
0:37:20 and
0:37:21 some
0:37:21 it
0:37:21 takes
0:37:21 and
0:37:21 some
0:37:21 it
0:37:22 doesn’t
0:37:23 I’m
0:37:23 curious
0:37:23 what
0:37:24 you
0:37:24 think
0:37:24 when
0:37:24 you
0:37:25 look
0:37:25 at
0:37:25 the
0:37:25 media
0:37:26 world
0:37:26 right
0:37:26 now
0:37:27 are
0:37:27 there
0:37:27 any
0:37:27 kind
0:37:28 specific
0:37:28 trends
0:37:29 that
0:37:29 pop
0:37:29 out
0:37:29 to
0:37:30 you
0:37:30 and
0:37:30 any
0:37:30 thoughts
0:37:31 on
0:37:31 say
0:37:31 you’re
0:37:31 coming
0:37:32 out
0:37:32 and
0:37:33 you
0:37:33 want
0:37:33 to
0:37:33 be
0:37:33 the
0:37:33 next
0:37:33 Barry
0:37:34 Diller
0:37:34 where
0:37:34 do
0:37:34 you
0:37:34 think
0:37:34 the
0:37:35 puck
0:37:35 is
0:37:35 headed
0:37:36 well
0:37:36 I
0:37:36 have
0:37:37 no
0:37:37 clue
0:37:37 where
0:37:37 it’s
0:37:37 headed
0:37:38 really
0:37:38 I
0:37:38 mean
0:37:38 I
0:37:39 can
0:37:40 a
0:37:40 couple
0:37:40 of
0:37:40 things
0:37:41 maybe
0:37:41 I
0:37:41 mean
0:37:42 if
0:37:42 I
0:37:42 was
0:37:43 starting
0:37:43 today
0:37:43 I
0:37:43 would
0:37:44 look
0:37:44 for
0:37:44 things
0:37:44 that
0:37:44 can’t
0:37:45 be
0:37:46 disintermediated
0:37:47 because
0:37:47 I
0:37:47 think
0:37:48 the
0:37:48 changes
0:37:59 so
0:38:01 if
0:38:02 I
0:38:02 were
0:38:03 again
0:38:04 mine
0:38:05 wasn’t
0:38:06 my own
0:38:06 experience
0:38:07 all I
0:38:07 got is
0:38:07 my own
0:38:08 experience
0:38:08 I
0:38:08 was
0:38:09 drawn
0:38:09 to
0:38:09 stuff
0:38:10 I
0:38:10 didn’t
0:38:10 suss
0:38:11 out
0:38:12 oh
0:38:13 entertainment
0:38:13 business
0:38:14 looks like
0:38:15 it has
0:38:15 this or
0:38:15 that
0:38:16 quality
0:38:16 about
0:38:16 it
0:38:17 I
0:38:17 was
0:38:17 just
0:38:17 fascinated
0:38:18 by
0:38:18 it
0:38:19 I
0:38:19 think
0:38:20 you
0:38:20 think
0:38:20 what
0:38:21 fascinates
0:38:21 you
0:38:21 what
0:38:21 are
0:38:22 you
0:38:23 curious
0:38:23 about
0:38:24 and
0:38:24 then
0:38:25 just
0:38:25 get on
0:38:25 the
0:38:25 broad
0:38:26 path
0:38:26 of it
0:38:26 somehow
0:38:27 just
0:38:27 start
0:38:28 however
0:38:28 you
0:38:29 whatever
0:38:29 door
0:38:30 you
0:38:30 have
0:38:30 to
0:38:30 bash
0:38:30 through
0:38:31 whatever
0:38:31 you
0:38:31 have
0:38:32 to
0:38:32 do
0:38:34 just
0:38:35 get
0:38:35 on
0:38:35 the
0:38:35 main
0:38:36 path
0:38:36 of
0:38:36 whatever
0:38:37 intrigues
0:38:37 you
0:38:38 and
0:38:39 it
0:38:39 will
0:38:41 take
0:38:41 you
0:38:42 or not
0:38:42 but
0:38:43 it’ll
0:38:43 it’ll
0:38:44 take
0:38:44 you
0:38:44 where
0:38:45 you’re
0:38:45 supposed
0:38:45 to
0:38:46 go
0:38:47 as
0:38:47 against
0:38:48 the
0:38:49 dopes
0:38:50 particularly
0:38:50 entertainment
0:38:51 business
0:38:51 who say
0:38:51 I
0:38:52 want to
0:38:52 run
0:38:52 a
0:38:52 studio
0:38:53 anyone
0:38:53 who
0:38:53 says
0:38:53 that
0:38:53 to
0:38:53 me
0:38:53 I
0:38:54 would
0:38:54 throw
0:38:54 out
0:38:54 of
0:38:54 my
0:38:54 office
0:38:55 I
0:38:55 mean
0:38:56 that’s
0:38:56 like
0:38:56 such
0:38:57 an
0:38:57 idiot
0:38:57 goal
0:38:58 I
0:38:59 think
0:38:59 look
0:38:59 if
0:38:59 you
0:38:59 want
0:39:00 to
0:39:00 be
0:39:00 a
0:39:00 doctor
0:39:01 yeah
0:39:01 you
0:39:02 gotta
0:39:02 have
0:39:02 a
0:39:02 goal
0:39:03 you
0:39:03 gotta
0:39:03 get
0:39:03 a
0:39:03 degree
0:39:04 or
0:39:04 other
0:39:05 things
0:39:06 but
0:39:06 if
0:39:06 if
0:39:07 those
0:39:07 aren’t
0:39:08 necessary
0:39:08 then
0:39:09 early
0:39:09 age
0:39:10 goal
0:39:10 stuff
0:39:10 is
0:39:11 really
0:39:11 stupid
0:39:12 you
0:39:12 should
0:39:12 only
0:39:13 be
0:39:13 governed
0:39:13 by
0:39:13 what
0:39:14 you’re
0:39:14 curious
0:39:15 about
0:39:15 and
0:39:16 get
0:39:16 in
0:39:16 the
0:39:16 lane
0:39:18 in
0:39:18 terms
0:39:18 of
0:39:19 the
0:39:19 media
0:39:19 ecosystem
0:39:20 right
0:39:20 now
0:39:21 you’ve
0:39:21 actually
0:39:22 I
0:39:22 think
0:39:22 some
0:39:22 of
0:39:22 the
0:39:22 stuff
0:39:23 I’ve
0:39:23 read
0:39:23 you’ve
0:39:23 called
0:39:23 for
0:39:24 antitrust
0:39:24 do you
0:39:24 think
0:39:25 the
0:39:25 ecosystem
0:39:26 is
0:39:26 too
0:39:26 concentrated
0:39:27 right
0:39:27 now
0:39:28 oh
0:39:28 you
0:39:28 mean
0:39:28 the
0:39:29 lawsuits
0:39:30 against
0:39:30 Google
0:39:30 and
0:39:31 and
0:39:32 alphabet
0:39:32 I
0:39:32 don’t
0:39:33 know
0:39:33 how
0:39:33 practical
0:39:34 it
0:39:34 is
0:39:34 look
0:39:34 I
0:39:34 think
0:39:35 with
0:39:35 Google
0:39:35 Google
0:39:36 the
0:39:36 thing
0:39:37 is
0:39:37 Google
0:39:38 was
0:39:39 and
0:39:39 is
0:39:40 currently
0:39:40 but
0:39:41 by
0:39:41 my
0:39:41 little
0:39:42 currently
0:39:42 is on
0:39:42 the
0:39:43 head
0:39:43 of
0:39:43 a
0:39:43 little
0:39:43 pin
0:39:44 because
0:39:45 that’s
0:39:45 changing
0:39:46 Google
0:39:46 was an
0:39:47 absolute
0:39:47 monopoly
0:39:49 no
0:39:49 question
0:39:50 you
0:39:51 lived
0:39:51 as a
0:39:52 surf
0:39:52 in
0:39:52 their
0:39:53 land
0:39:53 if
0:39:53 you
0:39:54 had
0:39:54 anything
0:39:55 internet
0:39:55 or
0:39:56 traffic
0:39:56 oriented
0:39:57 that you
0:39:57 needed
0:39:58 for
0:39:58 your
0:39:59 services
0:39:59 or
0:40:00 products
0:40:01 a
0:40:01 total
0:40:02 monopoly
0:40:03 I
0:40:03 think
0:40:05 that’s
0:40:06 just
0:40:06 about
0:40:06 to
0:40:06 change
0:40:07 now
0:40:08 maybe
0:40:08 their
0:40:09 Gemini
0:40:10 will
0:40:11 take
0:40:11 over
0:40:12 search
0:40:12 just
0:40:12 like
0:40:13 their
0:40:13 Google
0:40:14 took
0:40:14 over
0:40:15 search
0:40:15 20
0:40:15 years
0:40:16 ago
0:40:16 I
0:40:17 doubt
0:40:17 it
0:40:17 I
0:40:17 don’t
0:40:18 think
0:40:18 the
0:40:18 chances
0:40:18 are
0:40:19 great
0:40:20 so
0:40:21 it
0:40:21 seems
0:40:22 awfully
0:40:22 late
0:40:23 maybe
0:40:23 you
0:40:24 need
0:40:24 most
0:40:24 antitrust
0:40:25 stuff
0:40:25 does
0:40:25 come
0:40:25 late
0:40:26 of
0:40:26 this
0:40:26 kind
0:40:27 so
0:40:27 I
0:40:27 don’t
0:40:28 know
0:40:28 if
0:40:28 that
0:40:28 how
0:40:29 what
0:40:29 sense
0:40:29 that
0:40:30 makes
0:40:30 and
0:40:30 as
0:40:30 for
0:40:31 separating
0:40:32 Instagram
0:40:33 or
0:40:33 WhatsApp
0:40:33 and
0:40:33 trying
0:40:34 to
0:40:34 get
0:40:34 them
0:40:34 I
0:40:34 mean
0:40:35 it’s
0:40:36 also
0:40:36 I
0:40:37 think
0:40:37 the
0:40:37 basis
0:40:38 of that
0:40:38 doesn’t
0:40:38 make
0:40:38 any
0:40:39 sense
0:40:39 I
0:40:39 don’t
0:40:40 think
0:40:41 that
0:40:41 they
0:40:42 are
0:40:42 anti
0:40:43 competitive
0:40:45 at the
0:40:45 heart
0:40:45 of the
0:40:46 meta
0:40:46 lawsuit
0:40:46 doesn’t
0:40:47 make
0:40:47 any
0:40:47 total
0:40:47 sense
0:40:48 to
0:40:48 me
0:40:48 but
0:40:48 okay
0:40:49 all
0:40:49 of
0:40:49 that
0:40:50 I
0:40:51 think
0:40:52 that
0:40:52 what
0:40:53 is
0:40:53 happening
0:40:54 on
0:40:54 the
0:40:54 eve
0:40:54 of
0:40:55 today
0:40:56 in
0:40:56 the
0:40:56 next
0:40:56 year
0:40:57 or
0:40:57 two
0:40:58 is
0:40:59 there’s
0:40:59 going
0:40:59 to
0:41:00 be
0:41:00 so
0:41:01 much
0:41:01 diversity
0:41:02 in
0:41:03 AI
0:41:04 empowered
0:41:04 stuff
0:41:05 that
0:41:06 I
0:41:06 think
0:41:07 these
0:41:08 tech
0:41:09 monopolies
0:41:09 except
0:41:09 for
0:41:10 Apple
0:41:11 which
0:41:11 is
0:41:11 not
0:41:11 a
0:41:12 monopoly
0:41:12 but
0:41:12 is
0:41:12 the
0:41:13 greatest
0:41:13 business
0:41:13 as
0:41:14 you
0:41:14 know
0:41:15 the
0:41:15 iPhone
0:41:16 business
0:41:16 and
0:41:16 its
0:41:17 walled
0:41:17 circle
0:41:18 I
0:41:19 don’t
0:41:19 know
0:41:19 how
0:41:19 you
0:41:19 do
0:41:19 better
0:41:20 than
0:41:20 that
0:41:22 that
0:41:22 ecosystem
0:41:23 but
0:41:23 I
0:41:24 don’t
0:41:24 think
0:41:24 these
0:41:24 companies
0:41:24 are
0:41:25 going
0:41:25 to
0:41:26 these
0:41:26 companies
0:41:27 probably
0:41:28 because
0:41:28 they’re
0:41:28 so
0:41:29 big
0:41:29 and
0:41:29 so
0:41:30 profitable
0:41:31 that
0:41:31 offshoots
0:41:31 of
0:41:31 them
0:41:32 look
0:41:33 Google
0:41:34 has
0:41:34 YouTube
0:41:35 which
0:41:37 is
0:41:37 a
0:41:38 giant
0:41:40 people
0:41:40 don’t
0:41:41 realize
0:41:41 how
0:41:42 powerful
0:41:43 YouTube
0:41:43 is
0:41:44 YouTube
0:41:44 is
0:41:44 probably
0:41:45 worth
0:41:45 more
0:41:46 than
0:41:46 Google
0:41:46 search
0:41:47 in a
0:41:47 while
0:41:48 because
0:41:48 I
0:41:48 don’t
0:41:48 see
0:41:48 that
0:41:48 getting
0:41:49 disintermediated
0:41:50 so
0:41:51 anyway
0:41:51 I’m
0:41:51 long
0:41:52 winded
0:41:52 about
0:41:52 this
0:41:52 I
0:41:53 don’t
0:41:53 think
0:41:54 that
0:41:55 the
0:41:55 breakup
0:41:56 I think
0:41:56 it’s
0:41:56 the
0:41:57 breakup
0:41:57 of
0:41:57 these
0:41:57 things
0:41:58 is
0:41:58 so
0:41:58 late
0:41:59 in
0:41:59 the
0:41:59 game
0:42:00 that
0:42:00 they’re
0:42:01 going
0:42:01 to
0:42:01 get
0:42:02 competed
0:42:03 with
0:42:04 vociferously
0:42:04 by
0:42:05 everything
0:42:06 by
0:42:07 everything
0:42:08 you’re
0:42:08 you’re
0:42:08 going to
0:42:09 do it
0:42:09 you’re
0:42:09 going to
0:42:09 be a good
0:42:09 segue
0:42:10 into
0:42:10 streaming
0:42:11 wars
0:42:12 when you
0:42:12 look at
0:42:12 Netflix
0:42:13 and all
0:42:14 the other
0:42:14 players
0:42:14 I think
0:42:14 of it
0:42:15 as
0:42:15 Netflix
0:42:15 and the
0:42:15 seven
0:42:16 dwarves
0:42:16 any
0:42:17 predictions
0:42:17 or any
0:42:19 feel for
0:42:19 how that
0:42:20 might shake
0:42:20 out
0:42:22 five years
0:42:22 ago
0:42:22 I said
0:42:22 Netflix
0:42:23 won
0:42:23 everybody
0:42:24 get over
0:42:24 it
0:42:24 please
0:42:25 don’t
0:42:25 try
0:42:26 don’t
0:42:26 over
0:42:27 invest
0:42:27 to try
0:42:28 and become
0:42:29 or compete
0:42:30 against Netflix
0:42:30 you cannot
0:42:31 do it
0:42:33 they lead
0:42:33 in every
0:42:34 respect
0:42:36 not only
0:42:36 the movie
0:42:37 business
0:42:37 but certainly
0:42:38 the television
0:42:38 business
0:42:40 in every
0:42:40 respect
0:42:41 they are
0:42:42 dominant
0:42:43 they set
0:42:44 the rules
0:42:45 and everybody
0:42:45 else
0:42:46 abides by
0:42:46 those rules
0:42:47 doesn’t mean
0:42:47 that there
0:42:48 aren’t other
0:42:48 companies
0:42:50 that can be
0:42:50 successful
0:42:51 with their
0:42:52 streaming
0:42:52 if they
0:42:53 scale it
0:42:53 down
0:42:55 what their
0:42:56 cost going
0:42:57 into it
0:42:57 and
0:42:58 they
0:42:59 make
0:42:59 good
0:43:00 programming
0:43:00 because in
0:43:01 the end
0:43:01 entertainment
0:43:02 is a
0:43:02 business
0:43:02 of hits
0:43:03 world
0:43:03 of hits
0:43:05 and
0:43:05 you can
0:43:06 do it
0:43:06 at a
0:43:08 lesser
0:43:09 scale
0:43:09 than Netflix
0:43:10 and succeed
0:43:10 very nicely
0:43:11 you can
0:43:11 just never
0:43:12 be
0:43:13 ever
0:43:14 be number
0:43:14 one
0:43:14 or have
0:43:15 big growth
0:43:15 that the
0:43:16 growth
0:43:16 of those
0:43:17 movie
0:43:17 companies
0:43:18 subsumed
0:43:19 everything else
0:43:19 that came
0:43:19 along for
0:43:20 70 years
0:43:21 they are
0:43:21 being
0:43:22 have been
0:43:22 subsumed
0:43:23 now by
0:43:24 huge
0:43:24 tech
0:43:25 companies
0:43:25 that have
0:43:25 different
0:43:26 business
0:43:26 models
0:43:26 than they
0:43:27 do
0:43:27 that they
0:43:28 can never
0:43:28 compete
0:43:28 with
0:43:29 so all
0:43:30 those
0:43:30 companies
0:43:31 that
0:43:31 have
0:43:32 been
0:43:32 around
0:43:32 for
0:43:32 100
0:43:33 years
0:43:34 they’re
0:43:34 just
0:43:34 going
0:43:34 to be
0:43:34 smaller
0:43:35 enterprises
0:43:36 without
0:43:37 great growth
0:43:38 prospects
0:43:38 but they’ll
0:43:39 be okay
0:43:40 there’s a lot
0:43:41 of you see
0:43:41 all these
0:43:41 tiktoks about
0:43:42 people saying
0:43:43 that you know
0:43:44 Hollywood is
0:43:44 under set
0:43:45 especially production
0:43:46 that production
0:43:46 is way down
0:43:47 in LA
0:43:48 and that everyone’s
0:43:49 asking for tax
0:43:50 credits to make
0:43:50 it more
0:43:51 competitive
0:43:52 and I think
0:43:53 Netflix now
0:43:53 spends more
0:43:53 than half
0:43:54 of its content
0:43:54 budget
0:43:55 overseas
0:43:56 do you
0:43:56 think
0:43:57 that
0:43:58 Hollywood
0:43:59 is to
0:44:00 the
0:44:01 entertainment
0:44:01 industry
0:44:02 what Detroit
0:44:02 was to
0:44:02 the automotive
0:44:03 industry
0:44:04 is this
0:44:04 cyclical
0:44:05 or structural
0:44:06 Hollywood
0:44:06 hedge money
0:44:07 is gone
0:44:08 forever
0:44:08 again
0:44:10 Hollywood
0:44:10 now
0:44:11 is dominated
0:44:12 by
0:44:13 Netflix
0:44:14 tech
0:44:14 company
0:44:15 Amazon
0:44:16 a tech
0:44:16 company
0:44:16 with
0:44:17 completely
0:44:17 different
0:44:17 business
0:44:18 model
0:44:19 than
0:44:19 anybody
0:44:19 in the
0:44:20 entertainment
0:44:20 business
0:44:20 could have
0:44:21 ever
0:44:21 conceived
0:44:21 of
0:44:22 which
0:44:22 is
0:44:22 we
0:44:23 don’t
0:44:23 care
0:44:23 if
0:44:23 you
0:44:23 watch
0:44:23 this
0:44:24 stuff
0:44:24 really
0:44:25 or
0:44:25 that
0:44:25 if
0:44:26 it’s
0:44:26 you know
0:44:26 we don’t
0:44:27 need
0:44:27 really
0:44:27 hits
0:44:28 we need
0:44:28 you to
0:44:29 join
0:44:29 prime
0:44:30 and we’re
0:44:30 going to
0:44:30 give you
0:44:31 this
0:44:31 stuff
0:44:32 in the
0:44:32 front
0:44:33 of the
0:44:33 store
0:44:35 in order
0:44:35 to get
0:44:35 you in
0:44:35 the
0:44:36 store
0:44:36 of
0:44:37 prime
0:44:38 how do
0:44:38 you
0:44:38 compete
0:44:39 with
0:44:39 that
0:44:39 it’s
0:44:40 not
0:44:40 possible
0:44:41 and
0:44:41 then
0:44:42 there’s
0:44:42 of course
0:44:43 Apple
0:44:43 and its
0:44:44 efforts
0:44:44 in
0:44:45 programming
0:44:46 so
0:44:47 tech
0:44:48 are
0:44:49 now
0:44:49 the
0:44:50 overlords
0:44:51 Hollywood
0:44:52 is
0:44:53 I’m
0:44:53 not
0:44:53 saying
0:44:54 it’s
0:44:54 culturally
0:44:55 irrelevant
0:44:55 because
0:44:56 a lot
0:44:56 of
0:44:57 stuff
0:44:57 gets
0:44:58 created
0:44:58 there
0:44:59 or
0:44:59 is
0:44:59 organized
0:45:00 there
0:45:01 whether
0:45:01 it’s
0:45:01 shot
0:45:01 there
0:45:01 or
0:45:02 shot
0:45:02 someplace
0:45:02 else
0:45:03 is
0:45:03 somewhat
0:45:04 irrelevant
0:45:04 though
0:45:05 I think
0:45:05 it’s
0:45:05 very
0:45:05 relevant
0:45:06 to
0:45:06 the
0:45:06 crafts
0:45:07 all of
0:45:07 whom
0:45:07 live
0:45:07 in
0:45:08 LA
0:45:09 and
0:45:09 I
0:45:09 think
0:45:10 LA
0:45:11 county
0:45:11 LA
0:45:12 city
0:45:13 California
0:45:13 state
0:45:14 has
0:45:14 been
0:45:15 so
0:45:15 frigging
0:45:16 dumb
0:45:17 in
0:45:18 not
0:45:18 offering
0:45:19 the
0:45:19 kinds
0:45:19 of
0:45:20 production
0:45:21 below
0:45:21 the
0:45:21 line
0:45:22 incentives
0:45:22 that
0:45:22 every
0:45:23 other
0:45:23 state
0:45:24 and
0:45:24 country
0:45:25 has
0:45:25 offered
0:45:26 that
0:45:26 has
0:45:26 pulled
0:45:27 the
0:45:27 centrality
0:45:27 of
0:45:28 just
0:45:28 making
0:45:28 this
0:45:28 stuff
0:45:29 away
0:45:29 from
0:45:30 the
0:45:30 place
0:45:30 that’s
0:45:30 got
0:45:31 all
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0:45:31 craft
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0:49:23 partner
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0:49:24 your
0:49:24 kids
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0:49:25 know
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0:49:26 guess
0:49:26 be
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0:49:27 whatever
0:49:28 I
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0:49:29 really
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0:49:58 they
0:49:58 come
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0:49:58 that
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0:50:10 me
0:50:10 it’s
0:50:11 Dionne
0:50:11 my
0:50:11 wife
0:50:12 I
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0:50:20 it’s
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0:50:22 old
0:50:23 Elaine
0:50:23 May
0:50:23 Mike
0:50:24 Nichols
0:50:24 thing
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0:50:24 you
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0:50:25 guilt
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0:50:26 your
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0:50:43 just
0:50:43 the
0:50:44 children
0:50:44 and
0:50:45 and the
0:50:46 grandchildren
0:50:47 much younger
0:50:48 obviously
0:50:48 but the
0:50:48 children
0:50:50 are
0:50:52 everybody’s
0:50:52 life is
0:50:52 kind of
0:50:53 intertwined
0:50:54 there’s
0:50:54 no
0:50:55 you know
0:50:56 I’m marveled
0:50:56 people say
0:50:56 well I
0:50:57 haven’t talked
0:50:57 to my
0:50:58 mother or
0:50:58 father in
0:51:00 two weeks
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0:51:00 them every
0:51:01 Thursday or
0:51:01 whatever
0:51:02 something like
0:51:02 that
0:51:03 formalized
0:51:04 could not
0:51:04 be further
0:51:05 than the
0:51:05 truth
0:51:05 I just
0:51:05 think
0:51:06 I don’t
0:51:06 got no
0:51:07 advice
0:51:07 here I
0:51:07 just think
0:51:08 if you’re
0:51:08 lucky enough
0:51:08 to have
0:51:09 that kind
0:51:09 of
0:51:11 easy is
0:51:11 not the
0:51:11 world for
0:51:12 it but
0:51:13 natural
0:51:14 engagement
0:51:15 and
0:51:16 enfoldment
0:51:17 that
0:51:18 when things
0:51:18 happen
0:51:20 so you’re
0:51:20 83
0:51:22 you’ve
0:51:22 checked a
0:51:22 lot of
0:51:23 boxes
0:51:24 like
0:51:25 what boxes
0:51:25 are left
0:51:26 for you
0:51:26 like do
0:51:27 you have
0:51:27 when you
0:51:28 think about
0:51:28 your purpose
0:51:29 and what’s
0:51:29 left for
0:51:30 you and
0:51:30 what you
0:51:31 want to
0:51:31 accomplish
0:51:31 you haven’t
0:51:32 accomplished
0:51:33 what is
0:51:34 that or
0:51:34 those things
0:51:35 I don’t
0:51:36 think it’s
0:51:36 accomplished
0:51:37 I never
0:51:37 thought about
0:51:38 accomplishments
0:51:38 in that
0:51:38 sense
0:51:39 I think
0:51:40 it’s
0:51:40 am I
0:51:40 still
0:51:41 curious
0:51:42 I’m
0:51:42 still
0:51:43 responsible
0:51:43 for
0:51:44 two
0:51:45 public
0:51:45 companies
0:51:46 probably
0:51:46 three
0:51:47 actually
0:51:47 now
0:51:49 and
0:51:51 as long
0:51:51 as I’m
0:51:52 curious
0:51:52 about
0:51:52 them
0:51:54 then I
0:51:54 will have
0:51:54 something
0:51:55 to contribute
0:51:56 and that
0:51:57 kind of
0:51:57 goes on
0:51:58 just like
0:51:58 a clock
0:51:59 that
0:51:59 doesn’t
0:52:00 stop
0:52:01 energizer
0:52:01 bunny
0:52:01 that you
0:52:02 can’t
0:52:02 turn
0:52:02 off
0:52:03 and that’s
0:52:03 just
0:52:05 nature
0:52:07 but
0:52:07 what I
0:52:08 do
0:52:08 think
0:52:08 about
0:52:09 is
0:52:09 and I
0:52:09 don’t
0:52:09 think
0:52:10 of
0:52:10 I
0:52:10 hate
0:52:11 that
0:52:11 word
0:52:11 legacy
0:52:11 anyway
0:52:12 because I
0:52:12 think it’s
0:52:12 stupid
0:52:13 but
0:52:15 what I
0:52:16 want
0:52:17 to do
0:52:17 I like
0:52:18 public
0:52:18 art
0:52:19 and
0:52:20 public
0:52:20 places
0:52:21 and I’ve
0:52:21 been lucky
0:52:22 enough to
0:52:22 be involved
0:52:23 in a few
0:52:23 of those
0:52:24 and I
0:52:24 want to
0:52:25 do as
0:52:25 many more
0:52:26 of those
0:52:26 as I
0:52:26 can
0:52:27 because I
0:52:28 think there
0:52:28 are very
0:52:29 few people
0:52:29 who have
0:52:30 the resources
0:52:31 and the
0:52:32 will
0:52:32 or desire
0:52:33 to do
0:52:33 that
0:52:34 and since
0:52:34 I got
0:52:35 that
0:52:36 then I
0:52:36 think it’d
0:52:37 be criminal
0:52:37 for me
0:52:38 not to
0:52:39 spend
0:52:40 those
0:52:41 resources
0:52:43 and my
0:52:43 own
0:52:44 juice
0:52:45 to create
0:52:46 more
0:52:47 more public
0:52:47 places
0:52:48 and public
0:52:48 art
0:52:49 because I
0:52:50 marvel
0:52:52 at what
0:52:52 has been
0:52:53 created by
0:52:53 others
0:52:54 and
0:52:55 lives
0:52:55 for
0:52:56 hundreds
0:52:56 of
0:52:56 years
0:52:56 and
0:52:56 you
0:52:57 come
0:52:57 upon
0:52:57 it
0:52:57 and you
0:52:57 say
0:52:58 how
0:52:59 the hell
0:53:01 did they
0:53:01 decide
0:53:01 to do
0:53:02 Central Park
0:53:03 you know
0:53:05 how did
0:53:05 they
0:53:06 whatever it
0:53:06 is
0:53:07 any place
0:53:07 that there
0:53:08 is
0:53:08 anything
0:53:09 that
0:53:09 is
0:53:10 of a
0:53:11 public
0:53:12 institution
0:53:13 Barry
0:53:13 Diller
0:53:14 is a
0:53:14 businessman
0:53:15 known for
0:53:15 his
0:53:15 influential
0:53:16 roles
0:53:16 in
0:53:16 media
0:53:16 and
0:53:17 entertainment
0:53:17 he’s
0:53:18 the
0:53:18 chairman
0:53:18 and
0:53:18 senior
0:53:19 executive
0:53:19 of
0:53:20 IAC
0:53:20 his
0:53:20 new
0:53:21 book
0:53:21 Who
0:53:21 Knew
0:53:22 is
0:53:22 out
0:53:22 now
0:53:22 he
0:53:23 joins
0:53:23 us
0:53:23 from
0:53:23 his
0:53:24 office
0:53:25 in
0:53:25 Manhattan
0:53:25 Barry
0:53:27 I’ve
0:53:27 only
0:53:27 had
0:53:27 one
0:53:28 dinner
0:53:28 with
0:53:28 you
0:53:28 but
0:53:28 I
0:53:28 think
0:53:29 everybody
0:53:30 everybody
0:53:30 just
0:53:30 wants
0:53:30 to be
0:53:31 Barry
0:53:31 Diller
0:53:32 you just
0:53:33 have a certain
0:53:36 fearlessness
0:53:37 about you
0:53:37 that I
0:53:38 think we’re
0:53:38 all
0:53:39 drawn to
0:53:39 both
0:53:40 professionally
0:53:40 and
0:53:40 personally
0:53:41 really
0:53:41 appreciate
0:53:41 your
0:53:42 coming
0:53:42 on
0:53:42 the
0:53:42 show
0:53:50 this
0:53:51 episode
0:53:51 was
0:53:51 produced
0:53:51 by
0:53:51 Jennifer
0:53:52 Sanchez
0:53:53 Drew
0:53:53 Burrows
0:53:53 is
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0:53:53 technical
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0:01:37 Episode 352.
0:01:39 352 is the area code serving Northern Florida.
0:01:42 In 1952, the contraceptive pill was introduced.
0:01:44 What does MAGA use for contraception?
0:01:46 Their personality.
0:01:48 Yeah, I said it.
0:01:49 And by the way,
0:01:52 if you’re going to fill my comments up with how I have Trump derangement syndrome,
0:01:56 just look at what’s going on with the fascist movement in Los Angeles.
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0:02:02 Go! Go! Go!
0:02:13 Welcome to the 352nd episode of the Prop G-Pod.
0:02:13 What’s happening?
0:02:15 I am back in London.
0:02:18 I went London, Paris, Paris, Miami,
0:02:21 Miami, New York for a couple days,
0:02:22 then to Detroit for Summit,
0:02:24 and then back home.
0:02:27 The highlight was I did this thing called the Faena Rumble,
0:02:29 where they set it up like a boxing tournament.
0:02:31 And it’s sort of a debate.
0:02:33 The audience asks questions,
0:02:34 you have a minute to respond,
0:02:35 then the other person responds,
0:02:37 and then at the end of the fight,
0:02:40 the audience decides who won the bout.
0:02:43 And I debated a guy named Shermichael Singleton,
0:02:46 who’s a fairly well-known conservative
0:02:49 who’s on CNN a lot.
0:02:52 I would describe him as sort of a Romney or Bush conservative
0:02:53 in that he isn’t fucking crazy
0:02:55 and is pretty thoughtful.
0:02:56 I was really impressed with him.
0:02:58 He’s a really young man, a 34-year-old.
0:03:01 But I went into this.
0:03:03 I agreed to do this because my buddy wanted to do it
0:03:04 and asked me to commit,
0:03:06 because, you know, kind of a big deal.
0:03:09 And then I find out I’m going up against some young Republican,
0:03:10 and it’s like, okay, I’m fucked.
0:03:12 Anyways, it was a lot of fun.
0:03:13 He’s a really impressive kid.
0:03:15 Came back to London last night
0:03:17 to find out that my hometown of Los Angeles
0:03:20 is being occupied by the National Guard.
0:03:21 The last time I happened,
0:03:22 or last time I happened,
0:03:24 I was actually in Los Angeles.
0:03:27 I had returned home from business school.
0:03:28 Was it business school?
0:03:28 I think it was business school.
0:03:29 And I was living with my mom,
0:03:32 and we live in a suburb of Los Angeles, Westwood,
0:03:33 right behind UCLA.
0:03:36 And I came home,
0:03:37 and on every corner,
0:03:39 there were two young men,
0:03:40 they looked 17 and fatigues,
0:03:43 with M15s.
0:03:44 They call them the semi-automatic
0:03:46 that they used to carry way back when.
0:03:48 And it was very odd and very strange
0:03:50 and a very dark moment for us.
0:03:51 But this was back when people
0:03:52 were being pulled out of their cars,
0:03:53 beaten up,
0:03:54 bricks being thrown,
0:03:56 people were killed.
0:03:57 And my understanding is,
0:03:59 having spoken to several people
0:03:59 who live in Los Angeles,
0:04:01 most of my college friends are still there,
0:04:04 there really isn’t anything going on
0:04:06 that would in any way
0:04:08 indicate a need for this type
0:04:10 of brute federal force.
0:04:12 I think this is,
0:04:14 when you think about what you want to do
0:04:15 in your own household
0:04:15 as you get older,
0:04:16 a little bit more mature,
0:04:19 or as the man of the household,
0:04:20 I think your job is oftentimes
0:04:21 to de-escalate.
0:04:22 And that is,
0:04:23 I do that a lot
0:04:24 in confrontations in my house
0:04:25 and my company.
0:04:26 And that is,
0:04:28 I try and de-escalate the situation
0:04:29 such that,
0:04:29 because what happens
0:04:30 when you get to a certain point,
0:04:32 people start saying things
0:04:32 or doing things
0:04:34 that is difficult to take back
0:04:36 and just makes a bad situation
0:04:37 much worse.
0:04:39 And if you think about it,
0:04:39 the whole point,
0:04:41 or one of the wonderful things
0:04:41 about being a president
0:04:43 and having a huge military
0:04:44 and a bully pulpit
0:04:45 that’s the biggest platform
0:04:46 in the world,
0:04:46 arguably,
0:04:48 is you can kind of be
0:04:50 the master de-escalator.
0:04:51 That’s kind of your job.
0:04:52 We’re called on
0:04:53 to try and create peace
0:04:54 and de-escalate.
0:04:56 And this is a perfect example
0:04:57 of doing exactly the opposite.
0:04:58 This is setting up
0:04:59 a confrontation.
0:05:00 This is incendiary.
0:05:02 It’s inflaming emotions.
0:05:03 You’re supposed to only
0:05:04 send in the National Guard.
0:05:04 And by the way,
0:05:05 he’s allowed to do this
0:05:06 under Title XI.
0:05:07 He’s supposed to be able
0:05:08 to use federal resources
0:05:09 to ensure that people’s work
0:05:10 gets done.
0:05:12 But it’s almost always
0:05:13 the governor requested
0:05:14 a natural disaster
0:05:15 when things get out of control
0:05:16 as they did in 1992.
0:05:18 But this is just setting up
0:05:19 a confrontation.
0:05:20 I don’t,
0:05:21 you know,
0:05:22 I have a bias here,
0:05:23 but I believe that ultimately
0:05:24 Governor Newsom
0:05:25 is going to come out of this
0:05:26 probably looking pretty good
0:05:27 because I think
0:05:28 he’s been forceful
0:05:29 yet dignified.
0:05:31 And he’s sort of setting up
0:05:32 the national stage
0:05:34 of Trump versus Newsom,
0:05:35 which I think will ultimately
0:05:35 end up being
0:05:36 kind of J.D. Vance
0:05:38 versus Newsom.
0:05:39 I think Newsom has
0:05:40 stronger prospects
0:05:41 to get the Democratic nomination
0:05:42 than people like.
0:05:42 Why?
0:05:45 I think the nation
0:05:46 is exceptionally luxest
0:05:48 and that he just looks
0:05:48 very presidential.
0:05:49 I also think he has
0:05:50 a good story to tell.
0:05:51 Fourth largest economy
0:05:51 in the world
0:05:52 for all the shitposting
0:05:53 from VCs who leave
0:05:54 to get tax status
0:05:54 in Florida
0:05:55 and then move back.
0:05:57 California’s created
0:05:58 more tax revenue.
0:05:59 It’s a net contributor.
0:06:00 It gives, I believe,
0:06:01 $80 billion
0:06:02 or sends $80 billion
0:06:03 back to the federal government,
0:06:03 whereas a lot of these
0:06:04 red states take money.
0:06:05 For example,
0:06:06 Texas, I think,
0:06:07 takes about $70 billion.
0:06:09 But what is the danger here?
0:06:10 I’d like to think
0:06:11 I’m hoping things
0:06:12 are going to maintain civility
0:06:14 and de-escalate
0:06:15 and that the president
0:06:16 will do his fucking job.
0:06:18 But I’ve always thought
0:06:19 that I’ve always kind of,
0:06:20 you know,
0:06:20 I’m definitely
0:06:21 a glass half empty
0:06:22 kind of person.
0:06:23 So what could go wrong here?
0:06:24 How does America end?
0:06:25 How does America end?
0:06:27 The thing is,
0:06:28 we think of ourselves,
0:06:29 we’re so narcissistic
0:06:29 and think of America
0:06:31 as such a big, powerful,
0:06:32 you know,
0:06:34 and we’re right,
0:06:36 such an unbelievably huge,
0:06:38 dramatic icon,
0:06:39 center of the universe
0:06:40 that if America
0:06:41 were to go out of business
0:06:41 or end,
0:06:42 it would go down with a bang.
0:06:44 I don’t think that’s true.
0:06:45 I think America goes out
0:06:46 of business with a whimper.
0:06:48 And that is,
0:06:49 this is a step towards that.
0:06:50 This is a confrontation
0:06:51 between the federal government
0:06:53 and a politically
0:06:56 oppositional governor
0:06:57 in a liberal state.
0:06:59 Trump is not going to send
0:07:00 federal troops
0:07:01 into a red state.
0:07:02 he’s already,
0:07:03 they’ve already are trying
0:07:04 to demonize Governor Walz
0:07:04 in Minnesota.
0:07:06 Basically,
0:07:07 he’s deciding to weaponize
0:07:08 the federal government
0:07:09 to go after his,
0:07:10 what he perceives
0:07:11 as his political enemies
0:07:12 or to distract
0:07:13 from other things.
0:07:13 I have this big,
0:07:14 beautiful tax bill,
0:07:15 which is just a giant
0:07:17 fucking transfer of wealth
0:07:18 from the poor to the rich,
0:07:19 from the young to the old,
0:07:21 from the future to the past.
0:07:21 Anyway,
0:07:24 this is how America ends.
0:07:24 And I think,
0:07:24 again,
0:07:25 it’s with a,
0:07:26 it’s with a whimper.
0:07:27 And that is,
0:07:29 there’s a confrontation.
0:07:30 I don’t know if it results
0:07:31 in violence or not,
0:07:33 but maybe Governor Newsom
0:07:33 says we’re no longer
0:07:35 going to send our tax revenue
0:07:36 back to the federal government.
0:07:37 We’re just going to hold on to it.
0:07:38 That ends up
0:07:40 in another confrontation.
0:07:41 There is an election.
0:07:43 So you can now see states
0:07:44 that have economies
0:07:45 the size of a European nation
0:07:45 decide,
0:07:46 no,
0:07:47 we’re no longer signed up
0:07:48 for the federal government
0:07:49 or what the people
0:07:50 have decided
0:07:50 on the Democratic
0:07:52 or the Republican side.
0:07:53 and we have a series
0:07:55 of small nation states.
0:07:57 California is a tech-centered economy
0:07:58 that does a lot of business
0:07:59 with Asia.
0:08:01 The South is,
0:08:02 or Texas would be,
0:08:04 a oil and gas-centered economy
0:08:05 doing a lot of business
0:08:06 with the Gulf,
0:08:07 if you will,
0:08:08 or overseas
0:08:09 or whoever needs oil.
0:08:10 The Midwest
0:08:12 is a manufacturing economy
0:08:12 doing a lot of business
0:08:13 with Canada.
0:08:15 And I could see
0:08:16 the East Coast
0:08:17 breaking into its own fiefdom
0:08:18 where it’s mostly
0:08:19 about trade with Europe
0:08:20 and finance
0:08:21 and financial services.
0:08:23 And this is the new
0:08:25 dis-united states of America.
0:08:26 And how does America
0:08:27 come to an end?
0:08:29 Not with a bang,
0:08:30 but with a whimper.
0:08:32 That was somber, wasn’t it?
0:08:33 Wasn’t that light and cheery?
0:08:34 Wasn’t that,
0:08:35 aren’t I just a little bucket
0:08:36 of sunshine today?
0:08:37 Anyways,
0:08:38 in today’s episode,
0:08:40 we speak with Barry Diller,
0:08:41 a businessman known
0:08:41 for his influential roles
0:08:42 in media and entertainment
0:08:43 and the chairman
0:08:44 and senior executive of ISE.
0:08:46 We discuss with Barry
0:08:47 his origin story,
0:08:48 the current state of media
0:08:48 and streaming,
0:08:49 and his new book,
0:08:50 Who Knew,
0:08:51 out now.
0:08:52 But I really enjoy
0:08:53 Barry Diller.
0:08:55 He was a media mogul
0:08:56 when I was in college.
0:08:56 This guy,
0:08:57 as you’ll hear,
0:08:58 he was doing,
0:08:58 he was in charge
0:08:59 of Movie of the Week.
0:09:00 And if you’re my age,
0:09:00 you remember that
0:09:02 when he was in his early 20s.
0:09:02 Anyways,
0:09:03 with that,
0:09:04 here’s our conversation
0:09:05 with Barry Diller.
0:09:13 Barry,
0:09:14 where does this podcast
0:09:14 find you?
0:09:16 I’m in my New York office.
0:09:18 Is that the big sales?
0:09:19 Yes,
0:09:20 it’s the Sailcloth
0:09:21 Frank Gehry building.
0:09:22 Yeah,
0:09:23 it’s a beautiful building.
0:09:24 I’ve done several events there.
0:09:25 So,
0:09:26 let’s bust right into this.
0:09:28 I want to get your origin story.
0:09:29 I remember being,
0:09:31 I remember my senior year
0:09:31 at UCLA,
0:09:32 I had a job
0:09:33 selling insurance
0:09:34 and I wanted to break
0:09:35 into media
0:09:35 and I had a friend
0:09:36 named Tom Noonan
0:09:38 and he worked
0:09:39 for you
0:09:40 like two levels down
0:09:41 or he knew you.
0:09:43 you were already
0:09:43 kind of a master
0:09:45 of the universe then.
0:09:45 But what,
0:09:46 is this like
0:09:47 ancient history
0:09:48 we’re doing here?
0:09:48 Like,
0:09:50 is this like 1912?
0:09:50 No,
0:09:52 this is like 1987.
0:09:54 I think you were at Fox.
0:09:54 In 1987,
0:09:55 I was at Fox.
0:09:56 Yeah,
0:09:57 so,
0:09:58 I would just love
0:09:59 to get your origin story
0:10:00 and how you ended up
0:10:01 in,
0:10:02 as a fairly young man,
0:10:03 kind of being a captain
0:10:05 of media industry.
0:10:05 Like,
0:10:06 give us the origin story,
0:10:07 Barry Diller.
0:10:09 Let’s do
0:10:10 when I kind of
0:10:11 went to work
0:10:12 since I had
0:10:14 no seeming ambition
0:10:15 until I walked
0:10:15 into the
0:10:17 William Morris Agency
0:10:19 as a mailboy,
0:10:19 basically,
0:10:20 although I never
0:10:21 really delivered mail
0:10:23 and I ended up
0:10:24 reading the file room
0:10:26 and at that time,
0:10:27 file rooms were,
0:10:29 this was a huge room
0:10:30 with big file cabinets
0:10:32 and in it
0:10:33 was basically
0:10:33 the history
0:10:34 of the entertainment business.
0:10:36 I found a way
0:10:37 not to deliver mail
0:10:38 or do what the other
0:10:39 guys were doing,
0:10:40 which were trying
0:10:41 to be agents,
0:10:42 which I never wanted to be
0:10:43 and I basically read
0:10:44 the entire file room
0:10:46 and that was
0:10:49 the most fortuitous thing
0:10:50 because I got
0:10:52 the entire,
0:10:52 I mean,
0:10:53 William Morris
0:10:53 had been in business
0:10:54 then for
0:10:57 70 years or something
0:10:58 and it represented
0:10:59 almost everyone
0:11:00 so it had
0:11:01 all the history.
0:11:02 So I read
0:11:03 The Life of Elvis Presley.
0:11:04 I read the,
0:11:04 I mean,
0:11:05 it was just
0:11:07 incredible basing
0:11:08 and then
0:11:10 I got serendipitously lucky
0:11:11 in that
0:11:13 they wouldn’t throw me
0:11:14 out of William Morris
0:11:15 because I never wanted
0:11:15 to be an agent
0:11:17 and they only
0:11:19 did these mailboy things
0:11:20 in order to turn people
0:11:22 into productive agents
0:11:23 and I was never
0:11:23 going to be that
0:11:25 and I’d finished
0:11:26 kind of the file room
0:11:27 and I think they were
0:11:27 getting ready
0:11:28 to throw me out
0:11:29 and luckily
0:11:30 I took
0:11:32 the only job
0:11:34 that I was offered
0:11:34 which was to be
0:11:35 the assistant
0:11:37 to what I thought
0:11:39 was a middle level
0:11:41 job at ABC
0:11:43 in Los Angeles
0:11:45 in what was called
0:11:45 current programming
0:11:47 and the day
0:11:48 that I accepted
0:11:49 that job
0:11:50 they fired the czar
0:11:50 of ABC
0:11:52 and they reached out
0:11:52 and they picked
0:11:53 my guy
0:11:53 so instead of
0:11:54 being the assistant
0:11:55 to this West Coast person
0:11:56 I moved to New York
0:11:58 to be the assistant
0:11:58 to the head
0:11:59 of the network
0:12:00 and within six months
0:12:00 I was kind of running
0:12:01 the program department
0:12:02 so there you go
0:12:03 that was
0:12:05 at age 23
0:12:07 There’s something
0:12:08 that clearly came
0:12:08 from your
0:12:10 even earlier than that
0:12:11 what influences
0:12:12 growing up
0:12:13 gave you that type
0:12:13 of drive
0:12:14 that type of creativity
0:12:15 like when you look
0:12:16 back on your childhood
0:12:17 and how you were raised
0:12:18 is there anything
0:12:18 or people
0:12:19 that stand out?
0:12:21 I think that
0:12:22 all of the things
0:12:24 that were
0:12:25 enormously
0:12:26 enormous difficulties
0:12:27 for me
0:12:28 all those kind
0:12:30 of insecurities
0:12:31 inadequacies
0:12:33 feeling that I had
0:12:33 no self
0:12:34 that I didn’t deserve
0:12:36 for all sorts
0:12:37 of excuses
0:12:38 of sexual confusion
0:12:39 and stuff
0:12:40 and one big secret
0:12:42 which if you have
0:12:42 one big secret
0:12:44 and it’s an
0:12:45 overwhelming one
0:12:46 it tends
0:12:47 to let
0:12:48 all the other
0:12:49 risks
0:12:50 reduce in size
0:12:51 so you can take
0:12:52 these giant
0:12:53 risks
0:12:53 because the
0:12:54 big risk
0:12:55 is just
0:12:56 obliviating
0:12:57 everything else
0:12:57 so
0:12:59 that’s
0:13:00 in a way
0:13:01 not that God
0:13:02 knows I wanted it
0:13:03 but
0:13:04 it allowed me
0:13:05 to take
0:13:05 risks
0:13:06 everywhere else
0:13:07 my family
0:13:08 never thought
0:13:09 that I would
0:13:10 actually ever work
0:13:11 and they were
0:13:12 had resources
0:13:13 enough that it
0:13:14 didn’t really matter
0:13:15 but
0:13:16 I had no
0:13:16 seeming ambition
0:13:18 up until the age
0:13:19 of really 19
0:13:21 and I didn’t
0:13:21 really want to
0:13:22 go to school
0:13:23 and I was
0:13:23 kind of just
0:13:24 hibernating
0:13:25 but once
0:13:26 I found
0:13:27 actually when I
0:13:28 walked into
0:13:29 that William Morris
0:13:29 agency
0:13:30 because I’d always
0:13:31 been interested
0:13:31 in the entertainment
0:13:31 business
0:13:32 when I walked in
0:13:34 and I started
0:13:35 reading about
0:13:37 that world
0:13:39 that just
0:13:39 drew me
0:13:40 like the
0:13:40 fiercest
0:13:41 magnet
0:13:42 and that
0:13:42 ignited
0:13:44 this
0:13:45 I don’t know
0:13:45 where that
0:13:45 ambition
0:13:46 was but
0:13:47 it was
0:13:47 certainly
0:13:48 born
0:13:49 of
0:13:50 not
0:13:50 feeling
0:13:50 that
0:13:51 there was
0:13:51 any
0:13:52 self
0:13:53 or
0:13:53 that
0:13:54 I
0:13:55 deserved
0:13:56 any
0:13:56 self
0:13:57 and therefore
0:13:58 that fuel
0:13:58 that was
0:13:59 just
0:13:59 big
0:13:59 fuel
0:14:00 for me
0:14:01 you said
0:14:02 something
0:14:03 off mic
0:14:04 I was saying
0:14:05 I wanted
0:14:05 to talk
0:14:05 more about
0:14:06 business
0:14:06 because everyone’s
0:14:07 focused on
0:14:07 other parts
0:14:08 of the book
0:14:09 but you said
0:14:10 that you’re
0:14:11 quote unquote
0:14:11 secret
0:14:12 and I assume
0:14:12 that’s your
0:14:13 sexuality
0:14:13 you’re talking
0:14:14 about
0:14:15 well let me
0:14:16 ask you this
0:14:17 if you were
0:14:18 a 20s
0:14:18 something
0:14:19 executive
0:14:19 in today’s
0:14:19 Hollywood
0:14:20 which is
0:14:21 much more
0:14:22 accepting
0:14:23 of people’s
0:14:23 sexual orientation
0:14:24 do you not
0:14:24 think you’d be
0:14:25 as successful
0:14:26 as you were
0:14:28 god I don’t
0:14:29 have a clue
0:14:29 I think
0:14:31 no I
0:14:31 I think I
0:14:32 would not
0:14:32 have
0:14:33 I definitely
0:14:34 think
0:14:35 that the
0:14:36 tools that
0:14:37 I developed
0:14:38 out of
0:14:39 all of
0:14:39 these seeming
0:14:40 disadvantages
0:14:42 absolutely
0:14:43 did propel
0:14:43 me
0:14:44 for sure
0:14:45 if I didn’t
0:14:46 have those
0:14:47 I’d probably
0:14:48 be a ribbon
0:14:48 clerk
0:14:49 there’s this
0:14:50 term trad
0:14:50 dad
0:14:51 traditional
0:14:51 dads
0:14:52 who are a
0:14:52 little bit
0:14:53 harsher
0:14:53 and you
0:14:53 know
0:14:55 are not
0:14:55 sitting
0:14:55 kids
0:14:56 down
0:14:56 and asking
0:14:56 them
0:14:57 you know
0:14:57 how this
0:14:57 made them
0:14:58 feel
0:14:59 what I
0:15:00 knew of
0:15:00 you
0:15:01 back in
0:15:02 the 80s
0:15:02 was you
0:15:03 were like
0:15:03 the trad
0:15:04 manager
0:15:05 people were
0:15:05 scared of
0:15:06 you
0:15:06 you had
0:15:07 a reputation
0:15:08 for not
0:15:08 suffering
0:15:09 fools
0:15:09 that you
0:15:09 were
0:15:11 a hard
0:15:11 ass
0:15:12 one
0:15:13 is that
0:15:13 accurate
0:15:14 and two
0:15:15 what can
0:15:15 you tell
0:15:16 us about
0:15:16 how your
0:15:17 management
0:15:18 approach
0:15:19 has
0:15:19 if at
0:15:19 all
0:15:20 how it’s
0:15:20 evolved
0:15:21 as you’ve
0:15:21 gotten
0:15:21 older
0:15:23 well
0:15:23 yeah
0:15:23 it is
0:15:24 true
0:15:24 I mean
0:15:25 first of
0:15:26 all I
0:15:26 have this
0:15:26 voice
0:15:27 and that
0:15:27 voice
0:15:28 is a bit
0:15:28 intimidating
0:15:29 to begin
0:15:29 with
0:15:30 and then
0:15:31 in all
0:15:32 these
0:15:32 because I’m
0:15:33 so indirect
0:15:33 in everything
0:15:34 else in my
0:15:34 life
0:15:34 I’m so
0:15:35 direct
0:15:35 in
0:15:37 anything
0:15:37 relating
0:15:38 to business
0:15:38 I am
0:15:39 direct
0:15:39 I say
0:15:40 exactly
0:15:41 exactly
0:15:41 I say
0:15:42 what I
0:15:42 think
0:15:43 without
0:15:43 kind of
0:15:43 fear
0:15:44 or favor
0:15:44 and
0:15:45 I
0:15:46 like
0:15:47 creative
0:15:47 conflict
0:15:48 I like
0:15:48 argument
0:15:49 I like
0:15:50 the whole
0:15:51 concept
0:15:51 of
0:15:52 arguing
0:15:52 things
0:15:53 out of
0:15:53 passion
0:15:53 because
0:15:54 all I
0:15:54 care
0:15:54 about
0:15:54 is
0:15:54 instinct
0:15:55 and
0:15:55 in order
0:15:56 to hear
0:15:57 the truth
0:15:57 of something
0:15:58 you’ve got
0:15:58 to push
0:15:59 through
0:15:59 and you’ve
0:15:59 got to
0:16:00 get
0:16:00 all right
0:16:01 what does
0:16:01 that person
0:16:02 really
0:16:02 believe
0:16:03 and
0:16:04 taking
0:16:04 out
0:16:05 of
0:16:05 those
0:16:06 kind
0:16:06 of
0:16:07 clanging
0:16:08 discussions
0:16:09 you hear
0:16:10 a truth
0:16:10 and you
0:16:10 can pull
0:16:11 it
0:16:11 when I
0:16:11 notice
0:16:12 somebody’s
0:16:12 like
0:16:12 I’m
0:16:13 comfortable
0:16:13 I say
0:16:13 look
0:16:14 this
0:16:14 isn’t
0:16:14 for you
0:16:15 you don’t
0:16:15 like
0:16:16 this
0:16:16 environment
0:16:17 and
0:16:18 whether it
0:16:18 threatens
0:16:18 you
0:16:18 or
0:16:18 does
0:16:18 this
0:16:19 you
0:16:19 is
0:16:19 of
0:16:19 no
0:16:20 matter
0:16:20 except
0:16:21 I
0:16:21 don’t
0:16:21 want
0:16:22 anyone
0:16:22 in it
0:16:23 who
0:16:24 isn’t
0:16:25 accepting
0:16:25 of the
0:16:26 challenge
0:16:26 of that
0:16:27 kind
0:16:27 of
0:16:28 cauldron
0:16:28 I
0:16:29 just
0:16:29 think
0:16:29 it’s
0:16:29 the
0:16:29 most
0:16:30 productive
0:16:30 way
0:16:31 to
0:16:31 manage
0:16:31 the
0:16:32 other
0:16:32 thing
0:16:33 is
0:16:33 that
0:16:33 and
0:16:33 it’s
0:16:34 long
0:16:34 gone
0:16:34 for
0:16:34 me
0:16:35 now
0:16:36 but
0:16:36 I
0:16:37 think
0:16:37 the
0:16:37 best
0:16:37 way
0:16:37 to
0:16:38 learn
0:16:38 to
0:16:38 be
0:16:39 a
0:16:39 manager
0:16:39 and
0:16:39 evolve
0:16:40 into
0:16:40 that
0:16:41 is
0:16:41 and
0:16:42 I
0:16:42 got
0:16:42 very
0:16:42 lucky
0:16:43 because
0:16:43 at
0:16:44 24
0:16:44 and a
0:16:45 half
0:16:45 something
0:16:45 like
0:16:45 that
0:16:46 I
0:16:46 started
0:16:46 this
0:16:47 project
0:16:47 called
0:16:47 movie
0:16:47 the
0:16:48 week
0:16:48 where
0:16:48 I
0:16:49 got
0:16:49 to
0:16:49 build
0:16:50 my
0:16:51 own
0:16:51 company
0:16:52 inside
0:16:52 another
0:16:53 company
0:16:53 so
0:16:54 for
0:16:54 a
0:16:54 couple
0:16:55 of
0:16:55 years
0:16:55 I
0:16:56 hired
0:16:57 every
0:16:57 first of
0:16:57 all
0:16:57 I
0:16:58 did
0:16:58 every
0:16:58 job
0:16:59 and
0:16:59 I
0:16:59 hired
0:17:00 every
0:17:00 single
0:17:01 person
0:17:02 up
0:17:02 to
0:17:02 the
0:17:03 point
0:17:03 when
0:17:03 we
0:17:03 had
0:17:04 I
0:17:04 don’t
0:17:04 know
0:17:05 hundreds
0:17:06 and
0:17:07 thousands
0:17:07 of
0:17:07 employees
0:17:07 in
0:17:08 that
0:17:08 group
0:17:09 so
0:17:09 when
0:17:09 you
0:17:10 learn
0:17:10 the
0:17:11 luckiest
0:17:11 thing
0:17:11 anyone
0:17:12 can
0:17:12 get
0:17:12 is
0:17:13 to
0:17:13 start
0:17:14 something
0:17:15 where
0:17:15 you
0:17:15 get
0:17:15 to
0:17:15 learn
0:17:16 every
0:17:16 job
0:17:16 because
0:17:17 in
0:17:17 learning
0:17:17 every
0:17:18 job
0:17:18 and
0:17:18 in
0:17:19 hiring
0:17:19 the
0:17:19 people
0:17:19 and
0:17:20 doing
0:17:20 all
0:17:20 that
0:17:21 you
0:17:21 actually
0:17:22 learn
0:17:22 to
0:17:22 manage
0:17:23 because
0:17:23 you
0:17:23 are
0:17:24 so
0:17:25 on
0:17:25 the
0:17:26 original
0:17:26 ground
0:17:27 of
0:17:27 things
0:17:27 and
0:17:27 I
0:17:28 think
0:17:28 that
0:17:28 is
0:17:30 incredibly
0:17:30 productive
0:17:31 now
0:17:31 I
0:17:31 evolved
0:17:32 out
0:17:32 of
0:17:32 that
0:17:33 in
0:17:33 my
0:17:34 mid
0:17:34 20s
0:17:34 because
0:17:35 by
0:17:35 my
0:17:36 late
0:17:36 20s
0:17:37 I
0:17:38 was
0:17:39 supervising
0:17:40 a rather
0:17:40 large
0:17:41 organization
0:17:42 and
0:17:42 then
0:17:42 at
0:17:42 32
0:17:42 I
0:17:43 became
0:17:43 chair
0:17:43 on
0:17:43 a
0:17:44 paramount
0:17:44 which
0:17:44 is
0:17:44 a
0:17:44 whole
0:17:45 other
0:17:46 kind
0:17:46 of
0:17:47 management
0:17:48 classes
0:17:48 of
0:17:49 learning
0:17:49 how
0:17:49 to
0:17:50 be
0:17:50 in
0:17:51 a
0:17:51 movie
0:17:51 business
0:17:51 where
0:17:52 nobody
0:17:52 from
0:17:52 television
0:17:53 had
0:17:53 been
0:17:53 in
0:17:53 one
0:17:53 before
0:17:54 and
0:17:54 they
0:17:54 didn’t
0:17:54 like
0:17:55 those
0:17:55 people
0:17:56 I
0:17:56 don’t
0:17:56 know
0:17:56 about
0:17:56 the
0:17:57 evolution
0:17:57 I’m
0:17:58 still
0:17:58 I
0:17:59 hope
0:17:59 I
0:18:00 still
0:18:00 bring
0:18:00 that
0:18:01 same
0:18:03 tool
0:18:04 making
0:18:04 which
0:18:05 is
0:18:06 to
0:18:06 create
0:18:07 situations
0:18:08 where
0:18:09 you
0:18:09 have
0:18:11 opinion
0:18:12 argued
0:18:12 about
0:18:13 whether
0:18:13 it’s
0:18:13 a
0:18:13 new
0:18:14 business
0:18:14 idea
0:18:15 or
0:18:15 a
0:18:15 company
0:18:15 to
0:18:16 acquire
0:18:17 or
0:18:17 anything
0:18:17 else
0:18:18 I
0:18:18 hope
0:18:18 I
0:18:19 still
0:18:19 have
0:18:19 that
0:18:19 very
0:18:20 tough
0:18:21 process
0:18:22 of
0:18:22 trying
0:18:22 to
0:18:23 find
0:18:23 what
0:18:24 is
0:18:24 at
0:18:24 the
0:18:24 heart
0:18:25 root
0:18:26 of
0:18:26 an
0:18:26 idea
0:18:27 to
0:18:27 determine
0:18:27 whether
0:18:27 it’s
0:18:28 worth
0:18:28 pursuing
0:18:30 so
0:18:30 I
0:18:30 can’t
0:18:30 help
0:18:30 but
0:18:31 wax
0:18:31 nostalgic
0:18:32 here
0:18:32 so
0:18:33 I
0:18:33 was
0:18:33 raised
0:18:33 by
0:18:33 a
0:18:33 single
0:18:34 immigrant
0:18:34 mother
0:18:35 and
0:18:35 we
0:18:35 didn’t
0:18:35 see
0:18:36 each
0:18:36 other
0:18:36 much
0:18:37 during
0:18:37 the
0:18:37 week
0:18:39 she
0:18:39 was
0:18:39 a
0:18:39 secretary
0:18:40 and
0:18:41 but
0:18:41 we
0:18:42 always
0:18:42 made
0:18:42 we
0:18:43 had
0:18:43 a
0:18:43 date
0:18:43 a
0:18:43 standing
0:18:44 date
0:18:44 on
0:18:44 Tuesday
0:18:45 nights
0:18:45 you know
0:18:45 what we
0:18:45 did
0:18:46 oh
0:18:47 730
0:18:47 movie
0:18:47 of
0:18:47 the
0:18:48 week
0:18:49 ABC
0:18:49 movie
0:18:49 of
0:18:49 the
0:18:50 week
0:18:50 and
0:18:50 it
0:18:50 was
0:18:51 a
0:18:51 standing
0:18:51 thing
0:18:51 and
0:18:51 my
0:18:52 mom
0:18:52 would
0:18:52 make
0:18:52 me
0:18:53 loaf
0:18:55 getting
0:18:56 emotional
0:18:56 thinking
0:18:56 about
0:18:57 it
0:18:57 and
0:18:58 my
0:18:58 three
0:18:59 favorites
0:19:00 people
0:19:00 don’t
0:19:00 realize
0:19:02 how
0:19:03 to create
0:19:04 a breakthrough
0:19:04 in that
0:19:04 show
0:19:05 and I
0:19:05 assume
0:19:05 you’re
0:19:05 involved
0:19:05 in
0:19:06 all
0:19:06 three
0:19:06 of
0:19:06 these
0:19:06 things
0:19:07 one
0:19:08 duel
0:19:08 Steven
0:19:09 Spielberg’s
0:19:09 first
0:19:10 thing
0:19:10 I remember
0:19:11 two
0:19:13 in my
0:19:13 opinion
0:19:14 Billy
0:19:14 D.
0:19:15 Williams
0:19:15 best
0:19:15 movie
0:19:16 Brian
0:19:16 Song
0:19:17 by
0:19:17 far
0:19:17 and
0:19:18 then
0:19:19 the
0:19:19 most
0:19:20 underrated
0:19:20 it was
0:19:20 a
0:19:20 movie
0:19:21 of
0:19:21 the
0:19:21 week
0:19:21 but
0:19:21 it
0:19:21 turned
0:19:22 into
0:19:22 a
0:19:22 show
0:19:22 which
0:19:22 I
0:19:23 think
0:19:23 was
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0:20:25 Las
0:20:25 Vegas
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0:21:02 series
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0:21:03 and
0:21:04 Brian’s
0:21:04 song
0:21:05 I
0:21:05 don’t
0:21:05 know
0:21:06 that
0:21:06 you
0:21:06 can
0:21:06 do
0:21:06 better
0:21:07 for
0:21:08 sure
0:21:08 I
0:21:08 mean
0:21:09 yeah
0:21:09 you
0:21:09 pick
0:21:09 some
0:21:09 good
0:21:10 ones
0:21:11 what
0:21:11 other
0:21:12 things
0:21:12 early
0:21:12 in
0:21:12 your
0:21:13 career
0:21:13 sort
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0:21:14 the
0:21:14 next
0:21:14 level
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0:21:15 you
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0:21:16 I
0:21:16 would
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0:21:17 that
0:21:17 I
0:21:17 mean
0:21:17 it
0:21:17 was
0:21:18 definitely
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0:21:19 week
0:21:19 was
0:21:20 again
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0:21:20 23
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0:21:22 4
0:21:22 and
0:21:23 so
0:21:24 my
0:21:24 20s
0:21:25 were
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0:21:27 five
0:21:27 years
0:21:27 by
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0:21:29 the
0:21:29 end
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0:21:31 we
0:21:31 made
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0:21:31 movies
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0:21:33 process
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0:21:34 least
0:21:35 and
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0:21:38 were
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0:21:39 into
0:21:39 movies
0:21:39 but
0:21:40 big
0:21:41 sprawling
0:21:41 epic
0:21:42 novels
0:21:43 you
0:21:43 can’t
0:21:43 tell
0:21:43 that
0:21:44 story
0:21:44 in
0:21:44 two
0:21:44 hours
0:21:45 really
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0:21:46 I
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0:21:46 television
0:21:46 has
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0:21:54 miniseries
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0:22:03 nowhere
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0:22:09 a
0:22:09 thrust
0:22:11 really
0:22:11 early
0:22:12 and
0:22:13 I
0:22:13 don’t
0:22:13 know
0:22:13 it
0:22:13 was
0:22:14 that
0:22:14 because
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0:22:15 events
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0:22:16 landed
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0:22:17 Paramount
0:22:18 and
0:22:18 the
0:22:18 movie
0:22:19 business
0:22:20 at
0:22:20 also
0:22:20 a
0:22:21 really
0:22:21 young
0:22:21 age
0:22:22 and
0:22:23 I
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0:22:24 always
0:22:24 the
0:22:24 youngest
0:22:25 and
0:22:26 now
0:22:26 I’m
0:22:26 always
0:22:26 the
0:22:27 oldest
0:22:28 yeah
0:22:28 it’s
0:22:28 weird
0:22:29 I
0:22:29 often
0:22:29 say
0:22:30 I
0:22:30 used
0:22:30 to
0:22:30 walk
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0:22:31 every
0:22:31 room
0:22:31 be
0:22:31 the
0:22:31 youngest
0:22:31 now
0:22:32 walk
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0:22:32 every
0:22:32 room
0:22:32 when
0:22:32 I’m
0:22:32 the
0:22:33 oldest
0:22:33 I
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0:22:33 never
0:22:33 the
0:22:33 same
0:22:34 age
0:22:34 just
0:22:34 go
0:22:35 so
0:22:35 fast
0:22:36 what
0:22:37 so
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0:22:37 sort
0:22:37 of
0:22:38 a
0:22:38 decathlete
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0:22:39 of
0:22:39 different
0:22:39 types
0:22:39 of
0:22:39 content
0:22:40 you
0:22:40 started
0:22:40 in
0:22:40 TV
0:22:41 and
0:22:41 then
0:22:41 you
0:22:41 transition
0:22:42 to
0:22:42 movies
0:22:43 how
0:22:43 is
0:22:44 that
0:22:44 different
0:22:44 or
0:22:45 what
0:22:45 what
0:22:46 skills
0:22:47 is
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0:22:47 the
0:22:47 same
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0:22:48 need
0:22:48 to
0:22:49 develop
0:22:49 different
0:22:49 management
0:22:50 and
0:22:50 different
0:22:50 capital
0:22:51 allocation
0:22:51 skills
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0:22:53 the
0:22:53 same
0:22:54 tool
0:22:54 set
0:22:54 I’d
0:22:54 say
0:22:55 but
0:22:55 it’s
0:22:56 applied
0:22:56 to
0:22:56 totally
0:22:57 different
0:22:58 organizations
0:22:59 the
0:23:00 movie
0:23:01 business
0:23:01 you know
0:23:02 television
0:23:03 if you
0:23:04 didn’t
0:23:05 get it
0:23:06 delivered
0:23:06 on
0:23:07 7
0:23:07 at
0:23:08 730
0:23:08 on a
0:23:09 Tuesday
0:23:09 night
0:23:10 you know
0:23:10 the
0:23:11 screen
0:23:11 went
0:23:11 dark
0:23:12 in the
0:23:13 movie
0:23:13 business
0:23:13 if you
0:23:14 didn’t
0:23:14 make a
0:23:14 movie
0:23:15 nobody
0:23:15 knew
0:23:16 nobody
0:23:16 cared
0:23:17 so
0:23:17 the
0:23:18 rhythms
0:23:18 are just
0:23:19 so
0:23:19 completely
0:23:19 different
0:23:20 and the
0:23:20 industry
0:23:21 movie
0:23:21 industry
0:23:23 at its
0:23:23 height
0:23:23 of
0:23:24 snobism
0:23:24 I don’t
0:23:25 think it’s
0:23:25 diverted
0:23:26 that
0:23:26 much
0:23:27 today
0:23:27 from
0:23:28 what
0:23:28 it
0:23:28 was
0:23:28 then
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0:23:29 terms
0:23:29 of
0:23:29 looking
0:23:29 down
0:23:30 on
0:23:30 almost
0:23:31 all
0:23:31 other
0:23:32 forms
0:23:33 but now
0:23:34 the world
0:23:34 is so
0:23:34 I don’t
0:23:35 know even
0:23:35 what the
0:23:36 definition
0:23:36 of a
0:23:36 movie
0:23:37 is
0:23:37 anymore
0:23:38 given
0:23:38 the
0:23:39 Netflix
0:23:40 of life
0:23:40 but
0:23:41 the
0:23:42 movie
0:23:42 companies
0:23:43 in the
0:23:44 this is
0:23:44 in the
0:23:45 70s
0:23:46 dominated
0:23:47 world
0:23:47 culture
0:23:48 to such
0:23:48 an
0:23:49 extent
0:23:50 and
0:23:51 so
0:23:52 and
0:23:52 you only
0:23:53 did
0:23:53 we
0:23:54 never
0:23:54 made
0:23:55 we
0:23:55 paramount
0:23:56 made
0:23:57 probably
0:23:57 fewer
0:23:58 movies
0:23:58 than
0:23:58 most
0:23:58 other
0:23:59 companies
0:23:59 other
0:24:00 studios
0:24:00 of
0:24:00 which
0:24:00 there
0:24:01 were
0:24:01 five
0:24:01 dominant
0:24:02 ones
0:24:03 we
0:24:03 made
0:24:04 maybe
0:24:05 15
0:24:05 to
0:24:06 18
0:24:06 movies
0:24:06 a
0:24:06 year
0:24:07 other
0:24:07 people
0:24:07 made
0:24:08 25
0:24:08 to
0:24:08 30
0:24:10 so
0:24:10 so
0:24:10 so
0:24:10 that’s
0:24:12 putting
0:24:12 your
0:24:12 tent
0:24:12 up
0:24:12 and
0:24:13 taking
0:24:13 it
0:24:13 down
0:24:13 every
0:24:14 month
0:24:14 or
0:24:14 so
0:24:15 it’s
0:24:15 a
0:24:16 completely
0:24:17 different
0:24:17 rhythm
0:24:18 and I
0:24:19 had
0:24:20 first of all
0:24:21 the movie
0:24:22 people peed
0:24:22 on people
0:24:23 from television
0:24:23 so
0:24:24 I
0:24:24 had
0:24:25 the good
0:24:26 and the
0:24:26 bad
0:24:27 of
0:24:27 people
0:24:28 so
0:24:29 discounting
0:24:29 saying
0:24:30 well I’d be
0:24:30 thrown out
0:24:31 soon
0:24:31 because a
0:24:32 television person
0:24:32 could never
0:24:33 succeed in the
0:24:34 exalted movie
0:24:34 world
0:24:37 and so
0:24:37 they kind of
0:24:38 left me
0:24:38 alone for a
0:24:38 couple of
0:24:39 years
0:24:39 where
0:24:40 I figured
0:24:41 out how to
0:24:42 make the
0:24:42 company run
0:24:44 the way I was
0:24:44 comfortable with
0:24:46 and that
0:24:46 was a
0:24:47 very very
0:24:48 hard
0:24:49 time
0:24:49 where I
0:24:50 certainly
0:24:50 failed
0:24:50 first
0:24:51 because I
0:24:51 believe
0:24:52 almost
0:24:53 everything
0:24:54 I’ve ever
0:24:54 done
0:24:54 you kind
0:24:54 of
0:24:55 at least
0:24:55 in my
0:24:56 mind
0:24:56 fail
0:24:56 first
0:24:57 before
0:24:57 you
0:24:57 succeed
0:24:59 and so
0:25:00 it was a
0:25:01 completely
0:25:02 different
0:25:02 process
0:25:02 that I
0:25:03 had to
0:25:03 adapt
0:25:03 to
0:25:04 I was
0:25:04 using
0:25:05 the same
0:25:06 basically
0:25:07 toolkit
0:25:08 of
0:25:09 in my
0:25:09 case
0:25:09 which was
0:25:10 developing
0:25:11 material
0:25:11 rather than
0:25:11 buying
0:25:12 packages
0:25:13 made up
0:25:14 to form
0:25:15 directors
0:25:15 actors
0:25:16 writers
0:25:16 etc
0:25:17 that were
0:25:18 given to
0:25:18 studios
0:25:18 by
0:25:19 agencies
0:25:20 I
0:25:20 wanted
0:25:20 to
0:25:21 develop
0:25:21 I’ve
0:25:21 always
0:25:22 thought
0:25:22 it was
0:25:22 my
0:25:22 first
0:25:23 thing
0:25:23 of
0:25:23 developing
0:25:24 material
0:25:25 so
0:25:25 I
0:25:25 wanted
0:25:25 to
0:25:25 develop
0:25:26 material
0:25:26 that
0:25:26 takes
0:25:26 a
0:25:27 long
0:25:27 time
0:25:27 to
0:25:27 do
0:25:28 but
0:25:29 that
0:25:30 process
0:25:30 has
0:25:30 never
0:25:31 changed
0:25:31 for me
0:25:33 so
0:25:33 while you
0:25:33 were there
0:25:34 I just
0:25:34 want to
0:25:34 review
0:25:35 this
0:25:35 you
0:25:35 decided
0:25:36 to go
0:25:36 back
0:25:36 to
0:25:37 TV
0:25:37 and
0:25:38 essentially
0:25:38 started
0:25:39 the
0:25:39 Fox
0:25:40 television
0:25:40 network
0:25:41 where
0:25:41 Married
0:25:41 with
0:25:42 Children
0:25:42 and
0:25:42 The
0:25:43 Simpsons
0:25:43 were
0:25:44 sort
0:25:44 of
0:25:44 the
0:25:44 pillars
0:25:45 there
0:25:45 talk
0:25:46 why
0:25:46 did
0:25:46 you
0:25:46 go
0:25:46 back
0:25:46 to
0:25:47 TV
0:25:48 and
0:25:48 tell
0:25:48 us
0:25:48 a little
0:25:49 bit
0:25:49 about
0:25:50 those
0:25:50 two
0:25:50 shows
0:25:50 because
0:25:51 someone
0:25:52 told me
0:25:52 The Simpsons
0:25:53 is the
0:25:53 most
0:25:53 profitable
0:25:54 TV show
0:25:55 in history
0:25:56 that is
0:25:56 true
0:25:57 back in
0:25:58 the TV
0:25:58 when I
0:25:59 left
0:26:00 Paramount
0:26:01 to go
0:26:01 to Fox
0:26:02 I tried
0:26:03 to start
0:26:04 a fourth
0:26:04 network
0:26:05 there were
0:26:06 at that
0:26:06 time
0:26:06 three
0:26:06 networks
0:26:07 which
0:26:07 got
0:26:08 100%
0:26:08 of the
0:26:08 viewing
0:26:08 there
0:26:08 wasn’t
0:26:09 cable
0:26:10 I mean
0:26:10 cable
0:26:10 was
0:26:11 just
0:26:11 getting
0:26:12 a better
0:26:12 signal
0:26:14 and
0:26:14 so
0:26:15 three
0:26:15 networks
0:26:16 dominated
0:26:16 everything
0:26:16 and I
0:26:17 thought
0:26:17 I had
0:26:17 thought
0:26:17 over
0:26:17 the
0:26:18 years
0:26:18 that
0:26:18 while
0:26:18 they
0:26:19 started
0:26:19 out
0:26:19 with
0:26:19 different
0:26:20 personalities
0:26:21 by
0:26:22 the
0:26:23 80s
0:26:24 they all
0:26:25 talked
0:26:25 looked
0:26:25 and
0:26:26 acted
0:26:26 like
0:26:27 and
0:26:27 I
0:26:28 thought
0:26:29 well
0:26:30 that’s
0:26:30 interesting
0:26:30 there’s
0:26:31 room
0:26:31 for
0:26:32 I mean
0:26:32 maybe
0:26:32 room
0:26:33 for
0:26:34 an
0:26:34 alternative
0:26:35 to
0:26:35 that
0:26:35 so
0:26:36 when
0:26:36 I
0:26:36 got
0:26:37 to
0:26:37 Fox
0:26:38 and
0:26:38 their
0:26:39 confluence
0:26:39 against
0:26:40 serendipitous
0:26:40 events
0:26:41 I was able
0:26:41 to get
0:26:42 a bunch
0:26:42 of television
0:26:43 stations
0:26:44 that we
0:26:44 could buy
0:26:45 and
0:26:46 start
0:26:46 this
0:26:47 fourth
0:26:47 network
0:26:48 and
0:26:49 in the
0:26:50 beginning
0:26:51 you know
0:26:51 we didn’t
0:26:52 find our
0:26:52 vein
0:26:53 until
0:26:54 I got
0:26:55 a script
0:26:55 called
0:26:56 Not
0:26:56 the
0:26:56 Cosbys
0:26:57 and
0:26:57 now
0:26:58 Not
0:26:58 the
0:26:59 Cosbys
0:26:59 means
0:26:59 Bill
0:27:00 Cosby
0:27:00 show
0:27:00 was
0:27:00 number
0:27:01 one
0:27:01 on
0:27:01 television
0:27:01 had
0:27:01 been
0:27:02 for
0:27:02 many
0:27:02 years
0:27:03 and
0:27:03 so
0:27:03 when
0:27:04 I
0:27:04 saw
0:27:04 the
0:27:04 title
0:27:04 Not
0:27:05 the
0:27:05 Cosbys
0:27:05 I
0:27:05 was
0:27:05 oh
0:27:06 that’s
0:27:06 like
0:27:07 interesting
0:27:08 and
0:27:08 and
0:27:09 it
0:27:10 was
0:27:10 an
0:27:10 anti
0:27:11 establishment
0:27:11 family
0:27:12 which
0:27:12 we
0:27:13 later
0:27:13 called
0:27:14 married
0:27:14 with
0:27:15 children
0:27:16 and
0:27:16 that
0:27:17 I
0:27:17 knew
0:27:17 we’d
0:27:18 struck
0:27:18 the
0:27:19 vein
0:27:20 and
0:27:20 shortly
0:27:21 thereafter
0:27:23 we’d
0:27:23 had a
0:27:23 show
0:27:24 called
0:27:24 Tracy
0:27:24 Ullman
0:27:25 and
0:27:25 in it
0:27:25 were
0:27:26 these
0:27:26 interstitials
0:27:27 that
0:27:27 Matt
0:27:27 Groening
0:27:28 did
0:27:28 with his
0:27:29 character
0:27:29 The Simpsons
0:27:30 and Jim
0:27:30 Brooks
0:27:31 great director
0:27:32 who made
0:27:32 terms of
0:27:33 Endearment
0:27:33 etc.
0:27:34 said
0:27:35 who produced
0:27:35 Tracy
0:27:36 Ullman
0:27:36 said
0:27:37 I
0:27:37 think
0:27:37 we
0:27:37 could
0:27:38 make
0:27:38 this
0:27:38 into
0:27:38 a
0:27:38 series
0:27:40 and
0:27:40 I
0:27:40 said
0:27:41 yes
0:27:42 absolutely
0:27:42 now
0:27:42 at
0:27:42 that
0:27:43 time
0:27:44 because
0:27:44 animation
0:27:44 took
0:27:45 six
0:27:45 months
0:27:45 and
0:27:46 whatever
0:27:46 we
0:27:46 had
0:27:46 to
0:27:46 commit
0:27:47 to
0:27:47 13
0:27:47 episodes
0:27:48 without
0:27:49 making
0:27:49 quote
0:27:50 pilot
0:27:50 etc.
0:27:51 So
0:27:51 it was
0:27:51 a big
0:27:52 commitment
0:27:52 we did
0:27:52 it
0:27:53 and
0:27:53 made
0:27:54 the
0:27:54 13
0:27:54 episodes
0:27:55 and
0:27:56 we
0:27:56 hadn’t
0:27:57 scheduled
0:27:57 yet
0:27:57 and
0:27:57 the
0:27:58 first
0:27:58 episode
0:27:58 came
0:27:59 back
0:27:59 again
0:27:59 like
0:27:59 six
0:28:00 eight
0:28:00 months
0:28:00 later
0:28:02 and
0:28:02 we
0:28:02 had
0:28:02 this
0:28:03 viewing
0:28:03 and
0:28:04 actually
0:28:05 Jim
0:28:05 Brooks’s
0:28:05 little
0:28:06 bungalow
0:28:06 on the
0:28:06 Fox
0:28:07 lot
0:28:08 and
0:28:08 I
0:28:08 brought
0:28:09 the
0:28:09 sales
0:28:10 department
0:28:10 some
0:28:10 other
0:28:11 like
0:28:11 12
0:28:11 people
0:28:12 there’s
0:28:12 one
0:28:12 of
0:28:12 those
0:28:13 screenings
0:28:13 where
0:28:14 Jim
0:28:14 Brooks
0:28:15 and I
0:28:15 are
0:28:15 the
0:28:16 only
0:28:16 people
0:28:16 laughing
0:28:18 and
0:28:18 when
0:28:18 you’re
0:28:19 laughing
0:28:19 at
0:28:20 material
0:28:21 that
0:28:21 you’ve
0:28:21 already
0:28:22 seen
0:28:22 before
0:28:22 you’re
0:28:23 really
0:28:23 doing
0:28:23 it
0:28:24 to
0:28:25 try
0:28:25 and
0:28:25 get
0:28:25 other
0:28:25 people
0:28:26 to
0:28:26 laugh
0:28:27 so
0:28:27 it’s
0:28:27 like
0:28:28 over
0:28:28 performance
0:28:29 and
0:28:29 there
0:28:29 Jim
0:28:30 and I
0:28:30 are
0:28:30 hooking
0:28:31 it
0:28:31 up
0:28:32 stone
0:28:32 faced
0:28:33 every
0:28:33 other
0:28:33 person
0:28:34 in
0:28:34 the
0:28:34 room
0:28:35 we
0:28:35 walk
0:28:36 out
0:28:37 with
0:28:37 my
0:28:38 group
0:28:38 out
0:28:38 of
0:28:39 the
0:28:39 bungalow
0:28:40 back
0:28:40 up
0:28:40 to
0:28:40 our
0:28:40 offices
0:28:41 and
0:28:42 these
0:28:42 guys
0:28:42 said
0:28:42 well
0:28:43 can’t
0:28:43 air
0:28:44 that
0:28:44 I
0:28:44 mean
0:28:45 a
0:28:45 cartoon
0:28:46 and
0:28:47 I
0:28:47 thought
0:28:48 as
0:28:48 Jim
0:28:48 did
0:28:48 this
0:28:49 is
0:28:49 great
0:28:51 of
0:28:51 course
0:28:52 we
0:28:52 scheduled
0:28:53 it
0:28:54 from
0:28:54 the
0:28:54 first
0:28:55 hour
0:28:55 of
0:28:55 the
0:28:55 first
0:28:55 day
0:28:55 it
0:28:55 was
0:28:56 a
0:28:56 smash
0:28:56 hit
0:28:57 it’s
0:28:57 still
0:28:58 going
0:28:58 now
0:28:59 well
0:28:59 certainly
0:29:00 decades
0:29:00 30
0:29:00 years
0:29:01 later
0:29:02 but
0:29:03 because
0:29:03 of
0:29:04 syndication
0:29:04 and
0:29:04 because
0:29:04 of
0:29:05 streaming
0:29:05 and
0:29:05 because
0:29:06 of
0:29:06 all
0:29:06 this
0:29:06 now
0:29:06 it’s
0:29:06 owned
0:29:07 by
0:29:07 Disney
0:29:08 there’s
0:29:08 there’s
0:29:09 no
0:29:09 question
0:29:09 that
0:29:09 as
0:29:10 a
0:29:10 single
0:29:11 entertainment
0:29:12 product
0:29:13 it
0:29:13 is
0:29:13 the
0:29:14 most
0:29:14 profitable
0:29:15 in
0:29:15 history
0:29:16 we’ll
0:29:16 be right
0:29:16 back
0:29:17 after a
0:29:17 quick
0:29:17 break
0:29:22 summer
0:29:22 is
0:29:22 Tim’s
0:29:23 ice
0:29:23 latte
0:29:23 season
0:29:24 it’s
0:29:24 also
0:29:24 hike
0:29:25 season
0:29:25 pool
0:29:26 season
0:29:26 picnic
0:29:27 season
0:29:27 and
0:29:28 yeah
0:29:28 I’m
0:29:28 down
0:29:29 season
0:29:29 so
0:29:30 drink
0:29:30 it
0:29:30 up
0:29:30 with
0:29:30 Tim’s
0:29:30 ice
0:29:31 lattes
0:29:31 now
0:29:32 whipped
0:29:32 for a
0:29:32 smooth
0:29:32 taste
0:29:33 order
0:29:33 yours
0:29:33 on
0:29:33 the
0:29:34 Tim’s
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0:29:34 today
0:29:34 at
0:29:35 participating
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0:29:35 in Canada
0:29:36 for a
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0:29:44 we’re
0:29:44 experiencing
0:29:45 the greatest
0:29:45 acceleration
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0:29:50 culture
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0:29:52 in the
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0:30:17 working
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0:31:20 double
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0:31:34 Carl
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0:33:13 you
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0:33:13 to
0:33:13 come
0:33:14 go
0:33:14 see
0:33:14 this
0:33:15 QVC
0:33:16 this
0:33:16 home
0:33:17 shopping
0:33:17 channel
0:33:17 because
0:33:18 I’m
0:33:18 thinking
0:33:19 of
0:33:19 going
0:33:19 on
0:33:19 at
0:33:19 the
0:33:20 offer
0:33:20 my
0:33:21 design
0:33:21 clothes
0:33:23 and
0:33:23 he
0:33:24 said
0:33:24 it’s
0:33:24 just
0:33:24 interesting
0:33:25 just
0:33:25 go
0:33:25 see
0:33:25 it
0:33:26 so
0:33:26 I
0:33:26 wasn’t
0:33:26 doing
0:33:27 anything
0:33:27 so
0:33:27 I
0:33:28 went
0:33:28 to
0:33:29 Westchester
0:33:29 Pennsylvania
0:33:31 and
0:33:31 I
0:33:31 got
0:33:32 again
0:33:33 you know
0:33:33 I had
0:33:33 this
0:33:34 probably
0:33:35 single
0:33:36 epiphany
0:33:37 which is
0:33:37 I saw
0:33:38 screens being
0:33:38 used for
0:33:39 something
0:33:39 other than
0:33:39 to tell
0:33:40 stories
0:33:40 now I
0:33:41 knew
0:33:42 God
0:33:42 knows
0:33:43 screens
0:33:43 tell
0:33:43 stories
0:33:44 but I
0:33:44 didn’t
0:33:44 know
0:33:44 anything
0:33:45 else
0:33:45 I
0:33:45 didn’t
0:33:45 know
0:33:45 a
0:33:45 screen
0:33:45 could
0:33:46 be
0:33:46 interactive
0:33:47 and
0:33:47 there
0:33:47 I
0:33:47 am
0:33:48 watching
0:33:50 telephones
0:33:50 and
0:33:50 televisions
0:33:50 and
0:33:51 computers
0:33:51 being
0:33:52 used
0:33:52 in
0:33:52 this
0:33:53 primitive
0:33:53 convergence
0:33:54 and
0:33:55 it
0:33:55 struck
0:33:55 me
0:33:56 I
0:33:56 mean
0:33:56 it
0:33:56 just
0:33:57 like
0:33:57 banged
0:33:58 at me
0:33:58 of
0:33:59 wow
0:33:59 now I
0:34:00 didn’t
0:34:01 this
0:34:01 this
0:34:01 is
0:34:02 1993
0:34:03 two
0:34:03 years
0:34:03 before
0:34:04 the
0:34:04 internet
0:34:05 really
0:34:05 started
0:34:05 being
0:34:06 used
0:34:06 by
0:34:06 common
0:34:07 folk
0:34:08 and
0:34:08 I
0:34:09 thought
0:34:09 wow
0:34:10 but I
0:34:11 didn’t
0:34:12 think
0:34:12 what
0:34:13 was
0:34:13 going
0:34:13 to
0:34:13 happen
0:34:13 I
0:34:14 just
0:34:14 knew
0:34:14 it
0:34:14 was
0:34:15 going
0:34:15 to
0:34:15 change
0:34:15 things
0:34:16 and
0:34:16 I
0:34:16 was
0:34:17 fascinated
0:34:17 with
0:34:17 it
0:34:18 and
0:34:18 then
0:34:19 again
0:34:19 I’ve
0:34:20 used
0:34:20 this
0:34:20 word
0:34:20 serendipity
0:34:21 but it
0:34:21 is
0:34:21 the
0:34:21 leet
0:34:22 motive
0:34:22 of
0:34:22 my
0:34:22 life
0:34:23 a
0:34:23 couple
0:34:23 of
0:34:24 months
0:34:24 later
0:34:25 I
0:34:25 was
0:34:26 offered
0:34:27 to buy
0:34:28 QVC
0:34:29 and
0:34:29 I
0:34:30 did
0:34:30 it
0:34:30 and
0:34:31 so
0:34:31 by
0:34:31 the
0:34:32 time
0:34:32 the
0:34:32 internet
0:34:32 came
0:34:33 along
0:34:33 from
0:34:33 this
0:34:34 primitive
0:34:34 convergence
0:34:35 now
0:34:35 two
0:34:35 years
0:34:36 later
0:34:37 I
0:34:37 had
0:34:37 kind
0:34:37 of
0:34:38 in
0:34:38 my
0:34:39 fingertips
0:34:39 an
0:34:40 understanding
0:34:40 of
0:34:40 that
0:34:41 world
0:34:42 and
0:34:42 so
0:34:43 when
0:34:44 that
0:34:44 happened
0:34:45 we
0:34:45 were
0:34:45 able
0:34:45 to
0:34:46 start
0:34:47 all
0:34:47 these
0:34:48 businesses
0:34:48 the
0:34:48 internet
0:34:49 business
0:34:49 Expedia
0:34:50 and
0:34:50 Match
0:34:50 and
0:34:50 all
0:34:50 these
0:34:51 things
0:34:51 that
0:34:51 came
0:34:52 along
0:34:52 because
0:34:53 I
0:34:53 was
0:34:53 kind
0:34:53 of
0:34:53 present
0:34:54 at
0:34:54 the
0:34:54 creation
0:34:55 of
0:34:55 this
0:34:55 radical
0:34:56 transformation
0:34:57 into
0:34:58 digital
0:34:58 age
0:34:59 I
0:34:59 didn’t
0:35:00 plan
0:35:00 it
0:35:01 I
0:35:01 never
0:35:01 actually
0:35:01 planned
0:35:02 anything
0:35:03 but
0:35:03 once
0:35:03 I
0:35:04 saw
0:35:04 it
0:35:05 I
0:35:05 was
0:35:06 just
0:35:07 again
0:35:07 drawn
0:35:08 like
0:35:08 a
0:35:08 magnet
0:35:08 to
0:35:08 it
0:35:09 and
0:35:10 that’s
0:35:11 what
0:35:11 got it
0:35:11 started
0:35:12 and
0:35:12 then
0:35:12 it
0:35:12 just
0:35:13 went
0:35:13 from
0:35:13 there
0:35:14 you
0:35:14 you
0:35:14 you
0:35:15 have
0:35:15 a
0:35:15 reputation
0:35:16 for
0:35:17 mentoring
0:35:18 and
0:35:19 developing
0:35:19 or
0:35:19 maturing
0:35:19 a lot
0:35:19 of
0:35:20 pretty
0:35:21 impressive
0:35:22 executives
0:35:22 ranging
0:35:22 from
0:35:23 Strauss
0:35:23 Elnick
0:35:23 to
0:35:24 Dara
0:35:24 Kaswishai
0:35:26 at
0:35:26 Uber
0:35:26 Don
0:35:27 Steele
0:35:29 one of
0:35:29 my
0:35:30 investors
0:35:30 Tim
0:35:31 Armstrong
0:35:32 speaks
0:35:32 very
0:35:33 highly
0:35:33 of you
0:35:34 I’d be
0:35:34 curious
0:35:35 when
0:35:35 you
0:35:35 see
0:35:36 someone
0:35:36 what
0:35:37 attributes
0:35:37 in
0:35:38 them
0:35:39 or
0:35:39 signals
0:35:40 tell
0:35:40 you
0:35:40 this
0:35:41 person
0:35:41 is
0:35:41 worth
0:35:42 making
0:35:42 an
0:35:42 investment
0:35:42 in
0:35:43 and
0:35:43 this
0:35:43 person
0:35:43 could
0:35:45 play
0:35:45 a
0:35:45 really
0:35:46 important
0:35:46 role
0:35:46 what
0:35:47 do
0:35:48 you
0:35:48 spot
0:35:48 in
0:35:49 people
0:35:49 and
0:35:49 think
0:35:49 this
0:35:50 person
0:35:50 is
0:35:50 a
0:35:50 comer
0:35:51 spark
0:35:53 energy
0:35:53 edge
0:35:54 being
0:35:55 alive
0:35:55 to
0:35:55 the
0:35:55 moment
0:35:56 and
0:35:56 that’s
0:35:56 all
0:35:57 I
0:35:57 need
0:35:57 I
0:35:57 don’t
0:35:58 like
0:35:59 education
0:36:01 unless
0:36:02 they’re
0:36:02 you know
0:36:02 tool
0:36:03 sets
0:36:03 you need
0:36:03 to do
0:36:03 a
0:36:04 specific
0:36:04 task
0:36:05 but
0:36:06 education
0:36:06 doesn’t
0:36:07 impress
0:36:07 me
0:36:08 certainly
0:36:08 MBAs
0:36:08 don’t
0:36:09 impress
0:36:09 me
0:36:09 I
0:36:09 think
0:36:09 they’re
0:36:10 over
0:36:10 educated
0:36:11 or
0:36:11 narrowly
0:36:11 over
0:36:12 educated
0:36:14 and
0:36:15 I
0:36:15 just
0:36:15 look
0:36:16 for
0:36:16 somebody
0:36:16 who’s
0:36:17 got
0:36:18 some
0:36:18 spark
0:36:19 and
0:36:20 edge
0:36:20 doesn’t
0:36:21 have
0:36:21 to
0:36:21 have
0:36:21 an
0:36:21 original
0:36:22 mind
0:36:23 just
0:36:23 has
0:36:23 has
0:36:24 to
0:36:24 have
0:36:24 a
0:36:25 live
0:36:25 mind
0:36:25 and
0:36:25 be
0:36:26 open
0:36:26 to
0:36:27 possibilities
0:36:27 and
0:36:28 be
0:36:28 curious
0:36:28 if I
0:36:29 see
0:36:29 that
0:36:31 that’s
0:36:31 enough
0:36:31 to
0:36:32 start
0:36:32 and
0:36:33 every
0:36:33 one
0:36:33 of
0:36:33 the
0:36:34 people
0:36:34 you
0:36:34 mentioned
0:36:36 almost
0:36:36 almost
0:36:36 almost
0:36:36 everyone
0:36:37 that’s
0:36:37 come
0:36:37 into
0:36:37 my
0:36:37 life
0:36:37 in
0:36:37 that
0:36:38 way
0:36:39 usually
0:36:39 comes
0:36:39 in
0:36:40 at
0:36:40 the
0:36:40 junior
0:36:41 of
0:36:41 levels
0:36:43 and
0:36:44 you
0:36:44 see
0:36:45 that
0:36:46 little
0:36:46 spark
0:36:46 or
0:36:46 whatever
0:36:47 it
0:36:47 is
0:36:48 and
0:36:50 I
0:36:50 don’t
0:36:50 like
0:36:50 I
0:36:51 think
0:36:51 mentoring
0:36:51 is
0:36:51 a
0:36:52 it’s
0:36:53 cut
0:36:53 into
0:36:53 official
0:36:54 like
0:36:55 choose
0:36:55 your
0:36:55 mentor
0:36:55 me
0:36:56 or
0:36:56 whatever
0:36:56 all
0:36:56 that
0:36:57 stuff
0:36:57 I
0:36:58 think
0:36:58 it’s
0:36:58 a
0:36:58 little
0:36:59 high
0:36:59 flown
0:37:00 but
0:37:01 I
0:37:01 think
0:37:02 if
0:37:02 you
0:37:02 get
0:37:02 people
0:37:02 at
0:37:02 the
0:37:03 earliest
0:37:03 age
0:37:03 and
0:37:03 they
0:37:04 get
0:37:04 into
0:37:04 your
0:37:05 environment
0:37:06 and
0:37:06 you
0:37:06 can
0:37:07 bash
0:37:07 around
0:37:08 with
0:37:08 them
0:37:09 in
0:37:09 different
0:37:10 roles
0:37:10 that
0:37:10 they
0:37:10 could
0:37:11 play
0:37:12 and
0:37:12 then
0:37:13 they
0:37:13 grow
0:37:13 up
0:37:14 within
0:37:14 the
0:37:16 organization
0:37:17 they
0:37:17 just
0:37:18 get
0:37:18 big
0:37:19 dosages
0:37:19 of
0:37:19 everything
0:37:20 and
0:37:21 some
0:37:21 it
0:37:21 takes
0:37:21 and
0:37:21 some
0:37:21 it
0:37:22 doesn’t
0:37:23 I’m
0:37:23 curious
0:37:23 what
0:37:24 you
0:37:24 think
0:37:24 when
0:37:24 you
0:37:25 look
0:37:25 at
0:37:25 the
0:37:25 media
0:37:26 world
0:37:26 right
0:37:26 now
0:37:27 are
0:37:27 there
0:37:27 any
0:37:27 kind
0:37:28 specific
0:37:28 trends
0:37:29 that
0:37:29 pop
0:37:29 out
0:37:29 to
0:37:30 you
0:37:30 and
0:37:30 any
0:37:30 thoughts
0:37:31 on
0:37:31 say
0:37:31 you’re
0:37:31 coming
0:37:32 out
0:37:32 and
0:37:33 you
0:37:33 want
0:37:33 to
0:37:33 be
0:37:33 the
0:37:33 next
0:37:33 Barry
0:37:34 Diller
0:37:34 where
0:37:34 do
0:37:34 you
0:37:34 think
0:37:34 the
0:37:35 puck
0:37:35 is
0:37:35 headed
0:37:36 well
0:37:36 I
0:37:36 have
0:37:37 no
0:37:37 clue
0:37:37 where
0:37:37 it’s
0:37:37 headed
0:37:38 really
0:37:38 I
0:37:38 mean
0:37:38 I
0:37:39 can
0:37:40 a
0:37:40 couple
0:37:40 of
0:37:40 things
0:37:41 maybe
0:37:41 I
0:37:41 mean
0:37:42 if
0:37:42 I
0:37:42 was
0:37:43 starting
0:37:43 today
0:37:43 I
0:37:43 would
0:37:44 look
0:37:44 for
0:37:44 things
0:37:44 that
0:37:44 can’t
0:37:45 be
0:37:46 disintermediated
0:37:47 because
0:37:47 I
0:37:47 think
0:37:48 the
0:37:48 changes
0:37:59 so
0:38:01 if
0:38:02 I
0:38:02 were
0:38:03 again
0:38:04 mine
0:38:05 wasn’t
0:38:06 my own
0:38:06 experience
0:38:07 all I
0:38:07 got is
0:38:07 my own
0:38:08 experience
0:38:08 I
0:38:08 was
0:38:09 drawn
0:38:09 to
0:38:09 stuff
0:38:10 I
0:38:10 didn’t
0:38:10 suss
0:38:11 out
0:38:12 oh
0:38:13 entertainment
0:38:13 business
0:38:14 looks like
0:38:15 it has
0:38:15 this or
0:38:15 that
0:38:16 quality
0:38:16 about
0:38:16 it
0:38:17 I
0:38:17 was
0:38:17 just
0:38:17 fascinated
0:38:18 by
0:38:18 it
0:38:19 I
0:38:19 think
0:38:20 you
0:38:20 think
0:38:20 what
0:38:21 fascinates
0:38:21 you
0:38:21 what
0:38:21 are
0:38:22 you
0:38:23 curious
0:38:23 about
0:38:24 and
0:38:24 then
0:38:25 just
0:38:25 get on
0:38:25 the
0:38:25 broad
0:38:26 path
0:38:26 of it
0:38:26 somehow
0:38:27 just
0:38:27 start
0:38:28 however
0:38:28 you
0:38:29 whatever
0:38:29 door
0:38:30 you
0:38:30 have
0:38:30 to
0:38:30 bash
0:38:30 through
0:38:31 whatever
0:38:31 you
0:38:31 have
0:38:32 to
0:38:32 do
0:38:34 just
0:38:35 get
0:38:35 on
0:38:35 the
0:38:35 main
0:38:36 path
0:38:36 of
0:38:36 whatever
0:38:37 intrigues
0:38:37 you
0:38:38 and
0:38:39 it
0:38:39 will
0:38:41 take
0:38:41 you
0:38:42 or not
0:38:42 but
0:38:43 it’ll
0:38:43 it’ll
0:38:44 take
0:38:44 you
0:38:44 where
0:38:45 you’re
0:38:45 supposed
0:38:45 to
0:38:46 go
0:38:47 as
0:38:47 against
0:38:48 the
0:38:49 dopes
0:38:50 particularly
0:38:50 entertainment
0:38:51 business
0:38:51 who say
0:38:51 I
0:38:52 want to
0:38:52 run
0:38:52 a
0:38:52 studio
0:38:53 anyone
0:38:53 who
0:38:53 says
0:38:53 that
0:38:53 to
0:38:53 me
0:38:53 I
0:38:54 would
0:38:54 throw
0:38:54 out
0:38:54 of
0:38:54 my
0:38:54 office
0:38:55 I
0:38:55 mean
0:38:56 that’s
0:38:56 like
0:38:56 such
0:38:57 an
0:38:57 idiot
0:38:57 goal
0:38:58 I
0:38:59 think
0:38:59 look
0:38:59 if
0:38:59 you
0:38:59 want
0:39:00 to
0:39:00 be
0:39:00 a
0:39:00 doctor
0:39:01 yeah
0:39:01 you
0:39:02 gotta
0:39:02 have
0:39:02 a
0:39:02 goal
0:39:03 you
0:39:03 gotta
0:39:03 get
0:39:03 a
0:39:03 degree
0:39:04 or
0:39:04 other
0:39:05 things
0:39:06 but
0:39:06 if
0:39:06 if
0:39:07 those
0:39:07 aren’t
0:39:08 necessary
0:39:08 then
0:39:09 early
0:39:09 age
0:39:10 goal
0:39:10 stuff
0:39:10 is
0:39:11 really
0:39:11 stupid
0:39:12 you
0:39:12 should
0:39:12 only
0:39:13 be
0:39:13 governed
0:39:13 by
0:39:13 what
0:39:14 you’re
0:39:14 curious
0:39:15 about
0:39:15 and
0:39:16 get
0:39:16 in
0:39:16 the
0:39:16 lane
0:39:18 in
0:39:18 terms
0:39:18 of
0:39:19 the
0:39:19 media
0:39:19 ecosystem
0:39:20 right
0:39:20 now
0:39:21 you’ve
0:39:21 actually
0:39:22 I
0:39:22 think
0:39:22 some
0:39:22 of
0:39:22 the
0:39:22 stuff
0:39:23 I’ve
0:39:23 read
0:39:23 you’ve
0:39:23 called
0:39:23 for
0:39:24 antitrust
0:39:24 do you
0:39:24 think
0:39:25 the
0:39:25 ecosystem
0:39:26 is
0:39:26 too
0:39:26 concentrated
0:39:27 right
0:39:27 now
0:39:28 oh
0:39:28 you
0:39:28 mean
0:39:28 the
0:39:29 lawsuits
0:39:30 against
0:39:30 Google
0:39:30 and
0:39:31 and
0:39:32 alphabet
0:39:32 I
0:39:32 don’t
0:39:33 know
0:39:33 how
0:39:33 practical
0:39:34 it
0:39:34 is
0:39:34 look
0:39:34 I
0:39:34 think
0:39:35 with
0:39:35 Google
0:39:35 Google
0:39:36 the
0:39:36 thing
0:39:37 is
0:39:37 Google
0:39:38 was
0:39:39 and
0:39:39 is
0:39:40 currently
0:39:40 but
0:39:41 by
0:39:41 my
0:39:41 little
0:39:42 currently
0:39:42 is on
0:39:42 the
0:39:43 head
0:39:43 of
0:39:43 a
0:39:43 little
0:39:43 pin
0:39:44 because
0:39:45 that’s
0:39:45 changing
0:39:46 Google
0:39:46 was an
0:39:47 absolute
0:39:47 monopoly
0:39:49 no
0:39:49 question
0:39:50 you
0:39:51 lived
0:39:51 as a
0:39:52 surf
0:39:52 in
0:39:52 their
0:39:53 land
0:39:53 if
0:39:53 you
0:39:54 had
0:39:54 anything
0:39:55 internet
0:39:55 or
0:39:56 traffic
0:39:56 oriented
0:39:57 that you
0:39:57 needed
0:39:58 for
0:39:58 your
0:39:59 services
0:39:59 or
0:40:00 products
0:40:01 a
0:40:01 total
0:40:02 monopoly
0:40:03 I
0:40:03 think
0:40:05 that’s
0:40:06 just
0:40:06 about
0:40:06 to
0:40:06 change
0:40:07 now
0:40:08 maybe
0:40:08 their
0:40:09 Gemini
0:40:10 will
0:40:11 take
0:40:11 over
0:40:12 search
0:40:12 just
0:40:12 like
0:40:13 their
0:40:13 Google
0:40:14 took
0:40:14 over
0:40:15 search
0:40:15 20
0:40:15 years
0:40:16 ago
0:40:16 I
0:40:17 doubt
0:40:17 it
0:40:17 I
0:40:17 don’t
0:40:18 think
0:40:18 the
0:40:18 chances
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0:40:39 sense
0:40:39 I
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0:40:40 think
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0:40:41 they
0:40:42 are
0:40:42 anti
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0:40:47 any
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0:40:52 what
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0:40:53 happening
0:40:54 on
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0:40:54 eve
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0:40:56 next
0:40:56 year
0:40:57 or
0:40:57 two
0:40:58 is
0:40:59 there’s
0:40:59 going
0:40:59 to
0:41:00 be
0:41:00 so
0:41:01 much
0:41:01 diversity
0:41:02 in
0:41:03 AI
0:41:04 empowered
0:41:04 stuff
0:41:05 that
0:41:06 I
0:41:06 think
0:41:07 these
0:41:08 tech
0:41:09 monopolies
0:41:09 except
0:41:09 for
0:41:10 Apple
0:41:11 which
0:41:11 is
0:41:11 not
0:41:11 a
0:41:12 monopoly
0:41:12 but
0:41:12 is
0:41:12 the
0:41:13 greatest
0:41:13 business
0:41:13 as
0:41:14 you
0:41:14 know
0:41:15 the
0:41:15 iPhone
0:41:16 business
0:41:16 and
0:41:16 its
0:41:17 walled
0:41:17 circle
0:41:18 I
0:41:19 don’t
0:41:19 know
0:41:19 how
0:41:19 you
0:41:19 do
0:41:19 better
0:41:20 than
0:41:20 that
0:41:22 that
0:41:22 ecosystem
0:41:23 but
0:41:23 I
0:41:24 don’t
0:41:24 think
0:41:24 these
0:41:24 companies
0:41:24 are
0:41:25 going
0:41:25 to
0:41:26 these
0:41:26 companies
0:41:27 probably
0:41:28 because
0:41:28 they’re
0:41:28 so
0:41:29 big
0:41:29 and
0:41:29 so
0:41:30 profitable
0:41:31 that
0:41:31 offshoots
0:41:31 of
0:41:31 them
0:41:32 look
0:41:33 Google
0:41:34 has
0:41:34 YouTube
0:41:35 which
0:41:37 is
0:41:37 a
0:41:38 giant
0:41:40 people
0:41:40 don’t
0:41:41 realize
0:41:41 how
0:41:42 powerful
0:41:43 YouTube
0:41:43 is
0:41:44 YouTube
0:41:44 is
0:41:44 probably
0:41:45 worth
0:41:45 more
0:41:46 than
0:41:46 Google
0:41:46 search
0:41:47 in a
0:41:47 while
0:41:48 because
0:41:48 I
0:41:48 don’t
0:41:48 see
0:41:48 that
0:41:48 getting
0:41:49 disintermediated
0:41:50 so
0:41:51 anyway
0:41:51 I’m
0:41:51 long
0:41:52 winded
0:41:52 about
0:41:52 this
0:41:52 I
0:41:53 don’t
0:41:53 think
0:41:54 that
0:41:55 the
0:41:55 breakup
0:41:56 I think
0:41:56 it’s
0:41:56 the
0:41:57 breakup
0:41:57 of
0:41:57 these
0:41:57 things
0:41:58 is
0:41:58 so
0:41:58 late
0:41:59 in
0:41:59 the
0:41:59 game
0:42:00 that
0:42:00 they’re
0:42:01 going
0:42:01 to
0:42:01 get
0:42:02 competed
0:42:03 with
0:42:04 vociferously
0:42:04 by
0:42:05 everything
0:42:06 by
0:42:07 everything
0:42:08 you’re
0:42:08 you’re
0:42:08 going to
0:42:09 do it
0:42:09 you’re
0:42:09 going to
0:42:09 be a good
0:42:09 segue
0:42:10 into
0:42:10 streaming
0:42:11 wars
0:42:12 when you
0:42:12 look at
0:42:12 Netflix
0:42:13 and all
0:42:14 the other
0:42:14 players
0:42:14 I think
0:42:14 of it
0:42:15 as
0:42:15 Netflix
0:42:15 and the
0:42:15 seven
0:42:16 dwarves
0:42:16 any
0:42:17 predictions
0:42:17 or any
0:42:19 feel for
0:42:19 how that
0:42:20 might shake
0:42:20 out
0:42:22 five years
0:42:22 ago
0:42:22 I said
0:42:22 Netflix
0:42:23 won
0:42:23 everybody
0:42:24 get over
0:42:24 it
0:42:24 please
0:42:25 don’t
0:42:25 try
0:42:26 don’t
0:42:26 over
0:42:27 invest
0:42:27 to try
0:42:28 and become
0:42:29 or compete
0:42:30 against Netflix
0:42:30 you cannot
0:42:31 do it
0:42:33 they lead
0:42:33 in every
0:42:34 respect
0:42:36 not only
0:42:36 the movie
0:42:37 business
0:42:37 but certainly
0:42:38 the television
0:42:38 business
0:42:40 in every
0:42:40 respect
0:42:41 they are
0:42:42 dominant
0:42:43 they set
0:42:44 the rules
0:42:45 and everybody
0:42:45 else
0:42:46 abides by
0:42:46 those rules
0:42:47 doesn’t mean
0:42:47 that there
0:42:48 aren’t other
0:42:48 companies
0:42:50 that can be
0:42:50 successful
0:42:51 with their
0:42:52 streaming
0:42:52 if they
0:42:53 scale it
0:42:53 down
0:42:55 what their
0:42:56 cost going
0:42:57 into it
0:42:57 and
0:42:58 they
0:42:59 make
0:42:59 good
0:43:00 programming
0:43:00 because in
0:43:01 the end
0:43:01 entertainment
0:43:02 is a
0:43:02 business
0:43:02 of hits
0:43:03 world
0:43:03 of hits
0:43:05 and
0:43:05 you can
0:43:06 do it
0:43:06 at a
0:43:08 lesser
0:43:09 scale
0:43:09 than Netflix
0:43:10 and succeed
0:43:10 very nicely
0:43:11 you can
0:43:11 just never
0:43:12 be
0:43:13 ever
0:43:14 be number
0:43:14 one
0:43:14 or have
0:43:15 big growth
0:43:15 that the
0:43:16 growth
0:43:16 of those
0:43:17 movie
0:43:17 companies
0:43:18 subsumed
0:43:19 everything else
0:43:19 that came
0:43:19 along for
0:43:20 70 years
0:43:21 they are
0:43:21 being
0:43:22 have been
0:43:22 subsumed
0:43:23 now by
0:43:24 huge
0:43:24 tech
0:43:25 companies
0:43:25 that have
0:43:25 different
0:43:26 business
0:43:26 models
0:43:26 than they
0:43:27 do
0:43:27 that they
0:43:28 can never
0:43:28 compete
0:43:28 with
0:43:29 so all
0:43:30 those
0:43:30 companies
0:43:31 that
0:43:31 have
0:43:32 been
0:43:32 around
0:43:32 for
0:43:32 100
0:43:33 years
0:43:34 they’re
0:43:34 just
0:43:34 going
0:43:34 to be
0:43:34 smaller
0:43:35 enterprises
0:43:36 without
0:43:37 great growth
0:43:38 prospects
0:43:38 but they’ll
0:43:39 be okay
0:43:40 there’s a lot
0:43:41 of you see
0:43:41 all these
0:43:41 tiktoks about
0:43:42 people saying
0:43:43 that you know
0:43:44 Hollywood is
0:43:44 under set
0:43:45 especially production
0:43:46 that production
0:43:46 is way down
0:43:47 in LA
0:43:48 and that everyone’s
0:43:49 asking for tax
0:43:50 credits to make
0:43:50 it more
0:43:51 competitive
0:43:52 and I think
0:43:53 Netflix now
0:43:53 spends more
0:43:53 than half
0:43:54 of its content
0:43:54 budget
0:43:55 overseas
0:43:56 do you
0:43:56 think
0:43:57 that
0:43:58 Hollywood
0:43:59 is to
0:44:00 the
0:44:01 entertainment
0:44:01 industry
0:44:02 what Detroit
0:44:02 was to
0:44:02 the automotive
0:44:03 industry
0:44:04 is this
0:44:04 cyclical
0:44:05 or structural
0:44:06 Hollywood
0:44:06 hedge money
0:44:07 is gone
0:44:08 forever
0:44:08 again
0:44:10 Hollywood
0:44:10 now
0:44:11 is dominated
0:44:12 by
0:44:13 Netflix
0:44:14 tech
0:44:14 company
0:44:15 Amazon
0:44:16 a tech
0:44:16 company
0:44:16 with
0:44:17 completely
0:44:17 different
0:44:17 business
0:44:18 model
0:44:19 than
0:44:19 anybody
0:44:19 in the
0:44:20 entertainment
0:44:20 business
0:44:20 could have
0:44:21 ever
0:44:21 conceived
0:44:21 of
0:44:22 which
0:44:22 is
0:44:22 we
0:44:23 don’t
0:44:23 care
0:44:23 if
0:44:23 you
0:44:23 watch
0:44:23 this
0:44:24 stuff
0:44:24 really
0:44:25 or
0:44:25 that
0:44:25 if
0:44:26 it’s
0:44:26 you know
0:44:26 we don’t
0:44:27 need
0:44:27 really
0:44:27 hits
0:44:28 we need
0:44:28 you to
0:44:29 join
0:44:29 prime
0:44:30 and we’re
0:44:30 going to
0:44:30 give you
0:44:31 this
0:44:31 stuff
0:44:32 in the
0:44:32 front
0:44:33 of the
0:44:33 store
0:44:35 in order
0:44:35 to get
0:44:35 you in
0:44:35 the
0:44:36 store
0:44:36 of
0:44:37 prime
0:44:38 how do
0:44:38 you
0:44:38 compete
0:44:39 with
0:44:39 that
0:44:39 it’s
0:44:40 not
0:44:40 possible
0:44:41 and
0:44:41 then
0:44:42 there’s
0:44:42 of course
0:44:43 Apple
0:44:43 and its
0:44:44 efforts
0:44:44 in
0:44:45 programming
0:44:46 so
0:44:47 tech
0:44:48 are
0:44:49 now
0:44:49 the
0:44:50 overlords
0:44:51 Hollywood
0:44:52 is
0:44:53 I’m
0:44:53 not
0:44:53 saying
0:44:54 it’s
0:44:54 culturally
0:44:55 irrelevant
0:44:55 because
0:44:56 a lot
0:44:56 of
0:44:57 stuff
0:44:57 gets
0:44:58 created
0:44:58 there
0:44:59 or
0:44:59 is
0:44:59 organized
0:45:00 there
0:45:01 whether
0:45:01 it’s
0:45:01 shot
0:45:01 there
0:45:01 or
0:45:02 shot
0:45:02 someplace
0:45:02 else
0:45:03 is
0:45:03 somewhat
0:45:04 irrelevant
0:45:04 though
0:45:05 I think
0:45:05 it’s
0:45:05 very
0:45:05 relevant
0:45:06 to
0:45:06 the
0:45:06 crafts
0:45:07 all of
0:45:07 whom
0:45:07 live
0:45:07 in
0:45:08 LA
0:45:09 and
0:45:09 I
0:45:09 think
0:45:10 LA
0:45:11 county
0:45:11 LA
0:45:12 city
0:45:13 California
0:45:13 state
0:45:14 has
0:45:14 been
0:45:15 so
0:45:15 frigging
0:45:16 dumb
0:45:17 in
0:45:18 not
0:45:18 offering
0:45:19 the
0:45:19 kinds
0:45:19 of
0:45:20 production
0:45:21 below
0:45:21 the
0:45:21 line
0:45:22 incentives
0:45:22 that
0:45:22 every
0:45:23 other
0:45:23 state
0:45:24 and
0:45:24 country
0:45:25 has
0:45:25 offered
0:45:26 that
0:45:26 has
0:45:26 pulled
0:45:27 the
0:45:27 centrality
0:45:27 of
0:45:28 just
0:45:28 making
0:45:28 this
0:45:28 stuff
0:45:29 away
0:45:29 from
0:45:30 the
0:45:30 place
0:45:30 that’s
0:45:30 got
0:45:31 all
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0:48:35 we’re back
0:48:36 with more
0:48:36 from
0:48:37 Barry
0:48:37 Diller
0:48:39 so
0:48:40 just
0:48:40 I
0:48:40 want
0:48:40 to
0:48:41 in
0:48:41 our
0:48:41 remaining
0:48:41 time
0:48:42 here
0:48:42 I
0:48:42 want
0:48:42 to
0:48:42 switch
0:48:42 to
0:48:43 stuff
0:48:43 that’s
0:48:44 more
0:48:44 personal
0:48:45 you’ve
0:48:45 had
0:48:45 what
0:48:45 I
0:48:46 would
0:48:46 argue
0:48:46 from
0:48:47 at least
0:48:47 an
0:48:47 exterior
0:48:48 perspective
0:48:48 is
0:48:48 a
0:48:48 very
0:48:49 successful
0:48:49 partnership
0:48:50 with
0:48:50 your
0:48:51 wife
0:48:51 you
0:48:51 guys
0:48:51 have
0:48:52 been
0:48:52 together
0:48:53 married
0:48:53 for
0:48:53 two
0:48:53 and a
0:48:54 half
0:48:54 decades
0:48:54 but
0:48:54 together
0:48:54 for
0:48:55 five
0:48:55 decades
0:48:55 is
0:48:56 that
0:48:56 right
0:48:57 except
0:48:57 for
0:48:57 an
0:48:58 inter
0:48:59 regnum
0:48:59 period
0:48:59 when
0:49:00 I
0:49:00 was
0:49:00 sent
0:49:00 off
0:49:00 to
0:49:01 the
0:49:01 wilderness
0:49:02 which
0:49:02 lasted
0:49:03 ,
0:49:03 almost
0:49:03 about
0:49:03 10
0:49:03 years
0:49:04 but
0:49:04 yes
0:49:04 we
0:49:05 are
0:49:05 it’s
0:49:06 almost
0:49:06 50
0:49:06 years
0:49:07 your
0:49:07 two
0:49:08 kids
0:49:08 I’m
0:49:08 friends
0:49:09 are
0:49:09 friendly
0:49:09 with
0:49:10 Alex
0:49:10 my
0:49:10 sense
0:49:10 is
0:49:10 you
0:49:10 have
0:49:10 a
0:49:11 really
0:49:11 good
0:49:11 relationship
0:49:11 with
0:49:12 them
0:49:12 what
0:49:13 advice
0:49:13 would
0:49:13 you
0:49:14 have
0:49:15 for
0:49:16 husbands
0:49:16 and
0:49:16 for
0:49:17 dads
0:49:18 around
0:49:20 fostering
0:49:20 and
0:49:21 cultivating
0:49:21 strong
0:49:22 relationships
0:49:23 with
0:49:23 your
0:49:23 partner
0:49:24 and
0:49:24 your
0:49:24 kids
0:49:25 I
0:49:25 don’t
0:49:25 know
0:49:26 I
0:49:26 guess
0:49:26 be
0:49:27 engaged
0:49:27 or
0:49:27 whatever
0:49:28 I
0:49:28 don’t
0:49:28 I’m
0:49:29 not
0:49:29 really
0:49:29 very
0:49:29 good
0:49:29 at
0:49:30 advice
0:49:30 I
0:49:31 think
0:49:32 I
0:49:33 just
0:49:33 think
0:49:33 again
0:49:33 if
0:49:33 you’re
0:49:34 lucky
0:49:34 enough
0:49:35 that
0:49:39 luck
0:49:39 is
0:49:40 a
0:49:40 real
0:49:40 part
0:49:41 of
0:49:42 what
0:49:43 is
0:49:44 the
0:49:44 result
0:49:45 of
0:49:46 a
0:49:46 child
0:49:46 that
0:49:47 gets
0:49:47 to
0:49:47 be
0:49:48 let’s
0:49:48 see
0:49:49 a
0:49:49 semi
0:49:50 adult
0:49:50 in
0:49:50 their
0:49:51 teens
0:49:51 or
0:49:51 post
0:49:51 teens
0:49:52 or
0:49:52 twenties
0:49:53 whatever
0:49:53 in
0:49:53 their
0:49:53 kind
0:49:53 of
0:49:54 development
0:49:54 period
0:49:56 and
0:49:57 you
0:49:57 know
0:49:57 if
0:49:58 they
0:49:58 come
0:49:58 out
0:49:58 of
0:49:58 that
0:49:58 as
0:49:59 responsible
0:50:00 whatever
0:50:00 your
0:50:01 definition
0:50:01 of
0:50:01 responsible
0:50:02 is
0:50:02 if
0:50:02 they’re
0:50:03 responsible
0:50:04 and
0:50:05 you’re
0:50:05 engaged
0:50:05 with
0:50:06 them
0:50:08 it’s
0:50:08 really
0:50:08 not
0:50:08 me
0:50:08 you
0:50:08 know
0:50:09 what
0:50:09 as I
0:50:09 think
0:50:10 about it
0:50:10 it’s
0:50:10 not
0:50:10 me
0:50:10 it’s
0:50:11 Dionne
0:50:11 my
0:50:11 wife
0:50:12 I
0:50:12 don’t
0:50:12 know
0:50:13 I’ve
0:50:13 never
0:50:13 seen
0:50:14 anyone
0:50:14 else’s
0:50:15 relationship
0:50:15 with
0:50:15 their
0:50:15 children
0:50:16 which
0:50:16 is
0:50:17 like
0:50:17 that
0:50:18 it
0:50:18 is
0:50:20 it’s
0:50:20 not
0:50:21 the
0:50:22 old
0:50:23 Elaine
0:50:23 May
0:50:23 Mike
0:50:24 Nichols
0:50:24 thing
0:50:24 of
0:50:24 you
0:50:24 know
0:50:25 of
0:50:25 guilt
0:50:26 and
0:50:26 calling
0:50:26 quote
0:50:26 your
0:50:27 mother
0:50:28 this
0:50:28 family
0:50:29 talks
0:50:29 to
0:50:29 each
0:50:29 other
0:50:31 every
0:50:31 day
0:50:33 and
0:50:33 multiple
0:50:34 times
0:50:34 a day
0:50:35 and
0:50:36 none
0:50:36 of it
0:50:36 is
0:50:37 effortful
0:50:38 it’s
0:50:39 effortless
0:50:40 and
0:50:42 that’s
0:50:43 just
0:50:43 the
0:50:44 children
0:50:44 and
0:50:45 and the
0:50:46 grandchildren
0:50:47 much younger
0:50:48 obviously
0:50:48 but the
0:50:48 children
0:50:50 are
0:50:52 everybody’s
0:50:52 life is
0:50:52 kind of
0:50:53 intertwined
0:50:54 there’s
0:50:54 no
0:50:55 you know
0:50:56 I’m marveled
0:50:56 people say
0:50:56 well I
0:50:57 haven’t talked
0:50:57 to my
0:50:58 mother or
0:50:58 father in
0:51:00 two weeks
0:51:00 or I call
0:51:00 them every
0:51:01 Thursday or
0:51:01 whatever
0:51:02 something like
0:51:02 that
0:51:03 formalized
0:51:04 could not
0:51:04 be further
0:51:05 than the
0:51:05 truth
0:51:05 I just
0:51:05 think
0:51:06 I don’t
0:51:06 got no
0:51:07 advice
0:51:07 here I
0:51:07 just think
0:51:08 if you’re
0:51:08 lucky enough
0:51:08 to have
0:51:09 that kind
0:51:09 of
0:51:11 easy is
0:51:11 not the
0:51:11 world for
0:51:12 it but
0:51:13 natural
0:51:14 engagement
0:51:15 and
0:51:16 enfoldment
0:51:17 that
0:51:18 when things
0:51:18 happen
0:51:20 so you’re
0:51:20 83
0:51:22 you’ve
0:51:22 checked a
0:51:22 lot of
0:51:23 boxes
0:51:24 like
0:51:25 what boxes
0:51:25 are left
0:51:26 for you
0:51:26 like do
0:51:27 you have
0:51:27 when you
0:51:28 think about
0:51:28 your purpose
0:51:29 and what’s
0:51:29 left for
0:51:30 you and
0:51:30 what you
0:51:31 want to
0:51:31 accomplish
0:51:31 you haven’t
0:51:32 accomplished
0:51:33 what is
0:51:34 that or
0:51:34 those things
0:51:35 I don’t
0:51:36 think it’s
0:51:36 accomplished
0:51:37 I never
0:51:37 thought about
0:51:38 accomplishments
0:51:38 in that
0:51:38 sense
0:51:39 I think
0:51:40 it’s
0:51:40 am I
0:51:40 still
0:51:41 curious
0:51:42 I’m
0:51:42 still
0:51:43 responsible
0:51:43 for
0:51:44 two
0:51:45 public
0:51:45 companies
0:51:46 probably
0:51:46 three
0:51:47 actually
0:51:47 now
0:51:49 and
0:51:51 as long
0:51:51 as I’m
0:51:52 curious
0:51:52 about
0:51:52 them
0:51:54 then I
0:51:54 will have
0:51:54 something
0:51:55 to contribute
0:51:56 and that
0:51:57 kind of
0:51:57 goes on
0:51:58 just like
0:51:58 a clock
0:51:59 that
0:51:59 doesn’t
0:52:00 stop
0:52:01 energizer
0:52:01 bunny
0:52:01 that you
0:52:02 can’t
0:52:02 turn
0:52:02 off
0:52:03 and that’s
0:52:03 just
0:52:05 nature
0:52:07 but
0:52:07 what I
0:52:08 do
0:52:08 think
0:52:08 about
0:52:09 is
0:52:09 and I
0:52:09 don’t
0:52:09 think
0:52:10 of
0:52:10 I
0:52:10 hate
0:52:11 that
0:52:11 word
0:52:11 legacy
0:52:11 anyway
0:52:12 because I
0:52:12 think it’s
0:52:12 stupid
0:52:13 but
0:52:15 what I
0:52:16 want
0:52:17 to do
0:52:17 I like
0:52:18 public
0:52:18 art
0:52:19 and
0:52:20 public
0:52:20 places
0:52:21 and I’ve
0:52:21 been lucky
0:52:22 enough to
0:52:22 be involved
0:52:23 in a few
0:52:23 of those
0:52:24 and I
0:52:24 want to
0:52:25 do as
0:52:25 many more
0:52:26 of those
0:52:26 as I
0:52:26 can
0:52:27 because I
0:52:28 think there
0:52:28 are very
0:52:29 few people
0:52:29 who have
0:52:30 the resources
0:52:31 and the
0:52:32 will
0:52:32 or desire
0:52:33 to do
0:52:33 that
0:52:34 and since
0:52:34 I got
0:52:35 that
0:52:36 then I
0:52:36 think it’d
0:52:37 be criminal
0:52:37 for me
0:52:38 not to
0:52:39 spend
0:52:40 those
0:52:41 resources
0:52:43 and my
0:52:43 own
0:52:44 juice
0:52:45 to create
0:52:46 more
0:52:47 more public
0:52:47 places
0:52:48 and public
0:52:48 art
0:52:49 because I
0:52:50 marvel
0:52:52 at what
0:52:52 has been
0:52:53 created by
0:52:53 others
0:52:54 and
0:52:55 lives
0:52:55 for
0:52:56 hundreds
0:52:56 of
0:52:56 years
0:52:56 and
0:52:56 you
0:52:57 come
0:52:57 upon
0:52:57 it
0:52:57 and you
0:52:57 say
0:52:58 how
0:52:59 the hell
0:53:01 did they
0:53:01 decide
0:53:01 to do
0:53:02 Central Park
0:53:03 you know
0:53:05 how did
0:53:05 they
0:53:06 whatever it
0:53:06 is
0:53:07 any place
0:53:07 that there
0:53:08 is
0:53:08 anything
0:53:09 that
0:53:09 is
0:53:10 of a
0:53:11 public
0:53:12 institution
0:53:13 Barry
0:53:13 Diller
0:53:14 is a
0:53:14 businessman
0:53:15 known for
0:53:15 his
0:53:15 influential
0:53:16 roles
0:53:16 in
0:53:16 media
0:53:16 and
0:53:17 entertainment
0:53:17 he’s
0:53:18 the
0:53:18 chairman
0:53:18 and
0:53:18 senior
0:53:19 executive
0:53:19 of
0:53:20 IAC
0:53:20 his
0:53:20 new
0:53:21 book
0:53:21 Who
0:53:21 Knew
0:53:22 is
0:53:22 out
0:53:22 now
0:53:22 he
0:53:23 joins
0:53:23 us
0:53:23 from
0:53:23 his
0:53:24 office
0:53:25 in
0:53:25 Manhattan
0:53:25 Barry
0:53:27 I’ve
0:53:27 only
0:53:27 had
0:53:27 one
0:53:28 dinner
0:53:28 with
0:53:28 you
0:53:28 but
0:53:28 I
0:53:28 think
0:53:29 everybody
0:53:30 everybody
0:53:30 just
0:53:30 wants
0:53:30 to be
0:53:31 Barry
0:53:31 Diller
0:53:32 you just
0:53:33 have a certain
0:53:36 fearlessness
0:53:37 about you
0:53:37 that I
0:53:38 think we’re
0:53:38 all
0:53:39 drawn to
0:53:39 both
0:53:40 professionally
0:53:40 and
0:53:40 personally
0:53:41 really
0:53:41 appreciate
0:53:41 your
0:53:42 coming
0:53:42 on
0:53:42 the
0:53:42 show
0:53:50 this
0:53:51 episode
0:53:51 was
0:53:51 produced
0:53:51 by
0:53:51 Jennifer
0:53:52 Sanchez
0:53:53 Drew
0:53:53 Burrows
0:53:53 is
0:53:53 our
0:53:53 technical
0:53:54 director
0:53:54 thank you
0:53:55 for listening
0:53:55 to the
0:53:55 Prop G
0:53:56 Pod
0:53:56 from the
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0:53:57 Podcast
0:53:57 Network
0:53:58 stay tuned
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0:53:58 week’s
0:53:59 conversation
0:53:59 episode
0:54:00 featuring
0:54:00 one of
0:54:00 my
0:54:01 favorites
0:54:01 and a
0:54:01 real
0:54:02 role
0:54:02 model
0:54:02 for me
0:54:03 Sam
0:54:03 Harris
Barry Diller, a businessman known for his influential roles in media and entertainment and also the chairman and senior executive of IAC, joins Scott to discuss his origin story, the current state of media and streaming, and his new book, Who Knew.
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