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0:01:52 your podcasts welcome to raging moderates i’m scott galloway and i’m jess katarlath how are you jess
0:01:57 i’m good how are you i’m good it’s a beautiful day here in london and when you say it’s a beautiful
0:02:02 day here in london you really mean it because there aren’t that many no but when they happen they’re the
0:02:09 best days extraordinary absolutely extraordinary i want you to do the pod but i also want you to be
0:02:14 at an outdoor pub just enjoying i do the pub part i’m not good at the outdoor but i’m the great
0:02:19 endorsement i don’t really you sit inside even on a day like this oh yeah i don’t like culture i don’t
0:02:29 like the outdoors i just uh netflix edibles bar boom boom boom check check check that’s yeah no you need
0:02:34 the vitamin d though what’s the weather like in new york right now actually it’s real well it’s weird i
0:02:41 thought we were in fall i had my cute sweater is out and it’s like 80 degrees i heard it again yeah
0:02:48 you know what it’s like when you’re like you’re not full sweat but you’re like a little a little
0:02:54 yeah like some drops are happening and you see like the little back sweat on other people which i mean i
0:02:59 shouldn’t be in the you know whatever we all look at other people anyway it’s hot here and it’s hot here
0:03:04 and i’m ready for fall i was i have an oddly high tolerance for sweating i don’t sweat very easily
0:03:10 that’s one of the few one of the few attractive things about me um but the pheromones come in the
0:03:15 sweat people there you go trust me there’s whatever whatever the pheromone is that says i need to get
0:03:21 away from this guy i have that all right today we’re talking about trump’s potentially illegal
0:03:27 takeover of liberal cities a possible ceasefire deal between hamas and israel and why the
0:03:31 manosphere is breaking up with trump all right let’s get into it the trump administration is
0:03:35 facing a legal standoff over its push to deploy national guard troops to democrat-led cities
0:03:42 including chicago and portland illinois and oregon have sued calling the deployments patently unlawful
0:03:46 and a federal judge recently blocked troops from going to portland calling the president’s claims
0:03:53 about unrest simply untethered to the facts meanwhile white house aide steven miller insists the
0:03:58 administration has other options to send federal resources framing the situation as a fight against
0:04:05 what he calls domestic terrorism jess with polls showing most voters disapprove of the guard deployments
0:04:10 could these actions backfire politically for trump i think we need to reassess what
0:04:17 politically means for trump so like are the republicans going to lose the midterms
0:04:24 sure i think that that should happen and historically that is what happens i hope that it’s a decent
0:04:31 size majority and not just a couple of seats in our direction but like that’s one thing and then there’s
0:04:39 politically backfire in the are we going to have americans all over the country in the streets like
0:04:46 where maybe not every day but you have a lot of no kings protests which are happening far too sporadically
0:04:55 i think for the overreach that this government um is you know putting upon us on a daily basis certainly
0:05:02 if you live in one of their uh target areas like in a portland or chicago los angeles and
0:05:10 i’m not sure that the anger that the that you get in the conversations with people about what’s going on
0:05:18 is translating into these tangible events that the administration is going to have to take notice of
0:05:23 like the courts are doing their jobs and they’re ruling against him you know left right and center
0:05:29 um but then they find another way to get to where they’re going and stephen miller is very crafty right
0:05:38 and russ vote is very crafty and i’m kind of surprised having watched a ton of footage of what is going on in
0:05:46 chicago you know like i’m not sure if you saw this video but two ice officers got out of a regular car
0:05:56 like just an suv and are trying to cuff a migrant or i presume was a migrant and the everyone got out of
0:06:02 their cars started filming them and screaming at them and eventually after like seven eight minutes they
0:06:09 gave up right so like that’s what life is like in chicago right now and i you know walking through
0:06:16 downtown new york city and you know we’re like-minded and kind of akin cities right to chicago and it’s
0:06:21 like you know that people are on their phones calling people texting people saying i can’t believe he’s doing
0:06:27 this or that but you feel like the moment should be bigger i guess in the in the rest of the country
0:06:33 and i’m not feeling that yet and so the politics of an election is one thing but the politics of
0:06:41 how the american populace writ large responds to an authoritarian power grab by the trump administration
0:06:47 has not been severe enough for me yeah it’s interesting i remember someone saying they were
0:06:54 outraged at the lack of outrage on an issue five or ten years ago and yeah and just a quick a quick call
0:07:00 out we just got off with governor jb pritzker governor of illinois discussing this exact issue
0:07:05 and for those of you who want to see that and other quick takes please go to our raging moderates youtube
0:07:13 channel and subscribe but it’s interesting it is very it’s difficult to figure out where the red line is
0:07:22 and what’s interesting is that the um attempt to what was appeared what felt like the censorship of a late
0:07:29 night talk show host appeared to foment more outrage than people being literally rounded up
0:07:36 by people in masks i would have not guessed that i would have not i would have thought that people
0:07:44 would see i mean let’s just provide some context here they call them undocumented workers these people
0:07:49 have documents like no tomorrow they have phone contracts they have driver’s licenses they have
0:07:55 insurance agreements they have w-2s they have social security numbers yeah they have tax payment stubs
0:08:00 they file their taxes because we want to pay their taxes they have bank accounts such that we can
0:08:06 american banks can can make money off of the float they have credit cards issued by credit card by
0:08:11 comerica and visa such that they can get their two or three percent they have documents coming out of
0:08:16 their asses and speaking of asses these are the people that have been wiping grandma’s ass such that
0:08:20 you can afford to keep her at home and such you can afford to take your wife out to eat because
0:08:25 restaurants are much less expensive and you can have a home for four hundred thousand instead of
0:08:31 seven hundred thousand because folks domestic workers will no longer work outside they just won’t
0:08:36 as someone who has renovated a bunch of homes the only domestic workers who will now have anything to
0:08:41 do with a with home construction as far as i can tell are plumbers and electricians if you go outdoors
0:08:50 it’s all immigrants slash i would imagine undocumented workers and we have let this go on for 40 years
0:08:54 because it’s ultimately at the end of the day one of the most flexible economically prosperous
0:09:00 workforces in history now did we take it too far and let a quarter of a million come across the border
0:09:05 and raise their hand and say asylum and let them in during december of 23 under the bide administration
0:09:15 absolutely but to see this now to see people in masks rounding up gardeners housekeepers restaurant
0:09:23 workers people who’ve been here 10 20 years and also my understanding is a non-zero number of
0:09:29 citizens yeah yeah and it takes they have to be incarcerated for 72 hours before they finally
0:09:34 work through the system and they get released i went to this one of these high-end masters of the
0:09:40 universe conferences and i met a kind of a household name anchor and this person said their partner had
0:09:48 gone had left the country not because their partner wasn’t a citizen this person is but had migrated from
0:09:55 another country and had serious anxiety about them or someone in their family being rounded up incorrectly
0:10:04 right so this is just creating a vibe that is so unhealthy and so ugly and i would argue in terms of national
0:10:13 security that this is just such an enormous fucking distraction that we’re deploying our troops i like
0:10:16 using our troops aggressively i don’t think there’s any reason to spend a trillion dollars on the military
0:10:20 unless you’re going to actually use it i don’t think it’s just a deterrence force but instead of deploying
0:10:26 troops to portland shouldn’t we be figuring out a peacekeeping force in gaza shouldn’t we be providing
0:10:31 hardware and the ability to launch long-range tomahawk missiles into the oil infrastructure in russia
0:10:37 instead we have these guys at a donut shop and in portland we have our troops by the way i’ve heard
0:10:42 anyone who talks to our troops not ice but our troops the troops don’t know what the fuck they’re doing
0:10:48 they’re not happy about this ice unfortunately when you tell guys hey do you want to abuse immigrants
0:10:55 and get to wear a mask that is a whistle for some very strange individuals your thoughts yes
0:11:01 totally i mean you’re wondering what like the proud boys and oath keepers and those types of people could
0:11:08 be doing um in the year 2025 taking that uh fifty thousand dollar bonus to get to sign up and uh go
0:11:13 work for ice i think would be pretty high on that list and you’re absolutely correct about the rounding
0:11:19 up of american citizens we have a lawsuit out of alabama an american citizen who has been arrested not once
0:11:26 but twice a construction worker who even had real id to present i know rich people in new york city who
0:11:33 haven’t bothered to get down to the dmv to get their real ids but this guy totally compliant with
0:11:40 the law has his id even they don’t care so that’s that lawsuit out of alabama we’ll see what happens
0:11:47 there you had the raid on the south side of chicago that apartment complex where they’re using black hawk
0:11:54 helicopters and they’re pulling american citizens and allegedly trender aragua members out of their beds
0:12:01 as if they are the same there are kids on the street unclothed partially clothed zip tying these
0:12:08 kids together i’m sure there was some bad shit going on in that apartment complex too but it is a complete
0:12:14 infringement on your constitutional rights that they can just show up and haul you out of your bed
0:12:19 there is no reason having watched the interviews that these people who live in the complex are giving
0:12:24 that anyone who works for ice or cpb who was executing this thought that those people were
0:12:30 undocumented those are people who have lived on the south side of chicago their entire lives
0:12:38 and yeah i’m surprised there isn’t more outrage and that it is not being channeled in the right
0:12:44 direction and you’re also completely right to highlight the fact that like there’s real crime going on in
0:12:50 this country and that we are moving people off of investigating drug smuggling sexual exploitation
0:12:57 and organized crime to redirect them to this effort because steven miller thinks that we need to arrest
0:13:04 3 000 people a day because that was just some number that he came up with and we’re for the pro-law
0:13:10 enforcement party it’s a complete farce i don’t know if you saw this as well like donald trump didn’t even
0:13:17 know that his administration had taken 187 million dollars out of new york’s counterterrorism budget
0:13:25 kathy hochel had to call trump tell him what happened said he had no idea that this had happened
0:13:32 i mean i understand he is technically in charge he is the president i have accepted it this is not a case of tds
0:13:38 but he is not the one running this ship stephen miller is running the ship russ vote is running
0:13:43 the ship and they’re not even bothering to tell him about things that they don’t think he needs to know
0:13:50 or things that might bother him i mean the readout from meetings like when uh schumer and jeffries went
0:13:56 in to talk about the shutdown is like he didn’t even know the details about the aca premiums going up a
0:14:06 average of 114 the guy lives in this curated tiny bubble where they only show him clips and tv segments
0:14:12 that will reaffirm their point of view or their view of the world and they don’t for for the guy that’s
0:14:17 out there all the time you know man of the people he has no exposure to the realities on the ground he’s
0:14:23 posting about how rich the farmers are i mean these soybean farmers are in complete economic freefall
0:14:28 having a panic attack and on top of it don’t want the bailout they want to be able to just make a
0:14:33 living through their hard work as they could just a year ago yeah i don’t know i don’t have as much
0:14:38 empathy for farmers i think they were out of business 20 years ago they just don’t know it i think they’ve
0:14:44 been uneconomic in this notion of this cartoon of the family farm it’s mostly corporate farms who are
0:14:54 economically unviable and also farmers voted in mass for trump and the joke is well i voted for racism not for
0:15:00 tariffs well boss you’re the same people as a group that were just outraged at a bailout of student loan
0:15:06 borrowers but seem to now have your hand out and guess what folks your business isn’t coming back
0:15:11 china has established supply chains with argentina and brazil around soybeans now and
0:15:17 burning your crops quite frankly and unfortunately is probably the right thing and i don’t want to
0:15:23 mock anyone’s economic despair but quite frankly what did you think you were going to get anyways with
0:15:29 that ugly why’d you have to inject reality into my little soybean rant there you go let’s take a let’s
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0:17:37 welcome back tensions in gaza may be at a turning point as indirect talks between israeli and palestinian
0:17:42 negotiators kicked off monday evening in egypt working on president trump’s gaza ceasefire plan the
0:17:49 discussions mediated by the u.s qatar egypt and turkey are expected to last a few days meanwhile trump is
0:17:56 urging negotiators to move fast as he warned hamas of obliteration if they refuse to cede power on the
0:18:01 ground the human toll continues to mount even if some see a glimmer of hope for a truce just
0:18:07 what is your sense of the main sticking points in these talks and how likely is a deal to actually
0:18:13 hold i think before we get into the deal i mean we should we’re recording this on october 7th it’s the
0:18:21 two-year anniversary of that horrific terrorist attack that killed nearly 1200 israelis 250 taken hostage
0:18:28 and in the two years since then it’s reported that 60 000 palestinians have been killed and more than
0:18:36 169 000 have been injured um there has been a tremendous amount of bloodshed some of it completely
0:18:45 unnecessary certainly the terrorist attack and some of what’s gone on in gaza and it feels like it was to
0:18:54 some degree yesterday and to some degree like a million years ago and i remain optimistic from our
0:19:01 conversation last month that a deal can get done i think it it matters especially that cutter is at the
0:19:08 table and as part of the mediation team um in egypt alongside the united states because without cutter
0:19:14 hamas cannot exist you know cutter has been their safe haven has been their financial backers in all
0:19:22 of this so i’m trying to remain positive on that but it’s you know it’s a it’s a heavy thing and i saw
0:19:28 um at colombia of all places which was really the hotbed of kind of the pro-palestinian and in many
0:19:36 cases anti-israel protests that they have this mile-long memorial with 1200 empty chairs across the campus
0:19:44 um which is a beautiful tribute to the horrors uh of october 7th and those lives that were lost
0:19:49 um so those are my kind of top line october 7 thoughts i don’t know if you have any well one
0:19:57 i think we’re really starting to see and pay the price for threats that have absolutely no
0:20:02 veracity anymore but didn’t he just say on thursday if hamas didn’t accept a deal by sunday all hell was
0:20:09 going to break loose i mean it’s just hell’s on a sliding scale i think we’re moving it back
0:20:15 wasn’t ukraine going to be done into these deadlines no one takes seriously anymore and the latest i’ve
0:20:21 heard and i wanted to get dan senor on the pod because he just gets the nuance here or he just he’s
0:20:27 going to forget more about this than at least i’m ever going to know but what i’ve heard or the latest is
0:20:34 that while hamas agreed to certain points they they refused or disagreed on certain points including
0:20:41 a requirement that they disarm okay if if hamas isn’t willing to lay down their weapons
0:20:49 then i don’t see how this gets done at all i’m with you on this the war really needs to come to an end
0:20:56 the the the suffering the the devastation the destruction the humanitarian crisis here
0:21:04 i believe when you incur this viciously into uh a nation that has a superior military infrastructure
0:21:09 and is an ally of the u.s you are going to pay a severe price and gaza is now has the greatest
0:21:14 concentration of child amputees in the world the devastation here has been just
0:21:23 striking uh horrific it needs to end and every day that moves on as as a jew and someone who’s pro-israel
0:21:33 every day this goes on creates more danger and erodes the safety and the moral high ground if we can
0:21:40 still claim that of jews and israel around the world this is just this is just bad for everybody
0:21:46 every minute that this goes on the question is okay well how do we end it and america has to play a key
0:21:53 role in that i think a pan-arab security force the problem is we have a president that’s got the attention
0:22:00 span of a cat on meth and i worry and there’s a reason there are thousands of people in the state
0:22:06 department because to iron out all the details here takes real work real patience and incredible
0:22:13 diplomacy none of which i believe the president um i’m i don’t trust i mean this is where you pay the
0:22:21 price for having incompetence like a secretary of war lecturing people who have pieces of of men
0:22:28 tougher than him in their shit i’m talking about you secretary of war hegseth who who disparages
0:22:33 the most talented competent and lethal people in the history of the world in a room anyway
0:22:40 i worry that the layer down of diplomats are not as skilled as they should be and that the president
0:22:47 will move on to something else after his empty threats and that netanyahu i don’t think is a good
0:22:54 actor i i think that he is someone who’s more focused on staying out of jail and remaining on a war
0:23:03 footing such that he can be seen as a wartime leader so i i’m not as hopeful here as meant as other people
0:23:06 that this is going to happen and when hamas says they refuse to lay down their arms or that’s a point
0:23:11 where they refuse to lay down their arms well that’s sort of a deal killer i mean people say would you
0:23:19 would you have left nazis in germany and i think that’s a decent argument probably not would we have
0:23:27 let the nazis rearm no 100 we wouldn’t have allowed that so a lot of press releases a lot of
0:23:35 a lot of imagery of donald trump and a hundred yard dash for a nobel prize but i don’t see the groundwork
0:23:42 of a pan-arab security force multiple parties trying to figure this out what i hope is that
0:23:48 the leadership of hamas who i understand is holed up and being you know hotel room in qatar guarded by
0:23:55 uh qatari guards and basically are said you know you either agree to this deal or or you know the the
0:24:01 israelis have a have a have a habit of tracking down people the israelis um strategy has been around
0:24:06 targeted assassinations actually more than war despite these recent conflicts and you can bet
0:24:12 those folks in this room uh in qatar right now have a lot of incentive i would think to try and get a
0:24:19 deal done pretty crisply but i just we’re dealing with an enemy here that is unlike other enemies the
0:24:28 west has faced in that they see uh continued death as martyrdom for their populace so i’m actually
0:24:35 i really want this to come to an end for all parties involved i’m skeptical that this is going to
0:24:40 actually happen and i worry that trump will not demonstrate the patience and the leadership to do
0:24:46 the hard work you know underneath these secretaries of state are thousands of people that actually got to
0:24:51 get that have to get the shit done and work out all the details well that was something a secretary
0:24:57 clinton said um when she was on over the summer and she said you know i don’t know special envoy
0:25:04 whitkoff personally but i do know that this is not a job for one person right that you can be in charge of
0:25:11 peace in the middle east and russia ukraine also you know making sure that china doesn’t keep advancing
0:25:19 like it’s too many jobs for one person same goes for what’s going on with marco rubio as well he has
0:25:27 what like four or five positions he did say um this weekend i think on face the nation that the that
0:25:34 hamas has agreed to the hostage release framework um which is pretty startling uh so under that plan
0:25:40 the hostages will be exchanged for 250 palestinians and they their expectation is that there are 20
0:25:47 hostages that are still alive and the remains of 25 of them and there was discussion of getting the
0:25:53 hostages back by thursday of this week so in 48 hours but hamas has apparently said they can’t like
0:26:01 locate all the remains in that amount of time i don’t know what they have been doing um with those
0:26:06 remains i don’t even want to think about it but that’s at least our goal to be getting this kind
0:26:13 of 45 to 50 people in various uh you know states of alive or dead back and so for the hostages 250
0:26:19 palestinian prisoners serving life sentences will be released and 1700 gazans that are jailed by israel
0:26:24 during the war and for every hostage whose remains are released israel will also release the remains of
0:26:30 15 gazans um so that’s at least the framework that they’re trying to make happen to your point about
0:26:36 you know being skeptical but hopeful i’ve been watching a lot of interviews with the hostage
0:26:42 parents and you know they all congregate together it’s completely heartbreaking but they actually seem
0:26:50 hopeful for the first time since kind of in the immediate aftermath of all of this um and one of
0:26:56 the parents who has a son that’s being held in gaza expected to be alive um said please end this
0:27:04 nightmare please make it happen and they do believe that donald trump can do this and dan sinor who i
0:27:10 would love to have back on the pod obviously i was watching one of his uh videos that he posted and he said
0:27:17 why he is more optimistic about this is that he believes that trump it seems as though he’s kind of
0:27:23 just fed up and i feel the same way about what’s going on with russia and ukraine like he rolls out the
0:27:28 red carpet quite literally for putin right comes to alaska and then putin leaves the next day to go
0:27:37 to china and hang out with his real friends and that he’s just kind of done with people bossing him
0:27:45 around and if it makes him feel super powerful and like he leans into that aspect of it and that results
0:27:52 in ukraine not having to cede as much territory as alinsky is even willing to or that these hostages
0:27:58 come back and israel pulls out of gaza and you know hamas lays down his weapons which i understand
0:28:04 it’s going to be a tough sell then you know count me in in the uh adulation for trump on this one i did
0:28:08 it with the abraham accords during the first administration and i would certainly do it again
0:28:12 yeah i think you’re giving him more credit than he deserves i think one of the reasons that business
0:28:18 people don’t make great politicians they you know they can be good cabinet members great treasury
0:28:25 secretaries great secretaries of commerce is that business business kind of brings forward very rational
0:28:29 actors in the sense that they’re focused on fear and greed and everybody kind of understands each other
0:28:35 we’re all trying to increase profits earnings per share in and have similar values across at least
0:28:42 across capitalist societies to get business done it’s totally different in politics you’re dealing with
0:28:48 ideology you’re dealing with re-elections you’re dealing with uh optics and politics as opposed to
0:28:53 actually getting things done you’re dealing with people who might be running for election to stay out of
0:28:59 prison i mean it’s just you’re dealing with the slow bureaucratic state so generally speaking business
0:29:06 these people don’t make great leaders in government and trump i did i had some exposure to one of the
0:29:14 trump kids and in their business and essentially the trump enterprise and the way he was raised was
0:29:20 be famous and then slap your name on something but don’t do any actual work where where trump made all
0:29:27 of his money was one a reality show well one inheriting money the smartest thing he ever did was he inherited
0:29:33 a lot of money the second was he made a bunch of money he’s an amazing reality tv show and then what
0:29:38 he would do is famous for being famous slap his logo on a building have someone else build it have someone
0:29:43 else run it and skim a licensing fee whenever he actually got involved in the operations of anything
0:29:51 it usually ended up with unpaid subcontractors and or bankruptcy and so this is not an individual
0:29:57 who has any background or any credibility or any training and actually being a relatively good
0:30:05 operator or manager and that does not lend itself well to a situation like pulling together a peace plan
0:30:11 along these lines so i don’t i i worry that he does not hire the right people he does not create the
0:30:17 right incentives he does not create the right culture and job descriptions that result in an
0:30:24 effective administration and it my understanding is whoever speaks to him last is the strategy he
0:30:31 decides to deploy here the fact that dan senor is optimistic uh to me is really uh really exciting
0:30:38 because let’s just outline before i i motor on too long here just some key aspects of the proposed plan
0:30:44 gaza will be redeveloped for the people of gaza in quotes if accepted the israeli military offensive
0:30:50 will end immediately all hostages will be released dead and alive israel will release 250 life sentence
0:30:55 prisoners plus 1700 gazans who were detained after october 7th 2023 including all women and children
0:31:01 detained in that context for every israeli hostage whose remains are released israel will release the
0:31:06 remains of 15 deceased gazans hamas will lay down arms and be allowed to leave gaza if desired
0:31:11 full aid will be sent into gaza hamas will not have any influence in the governments of a future
0:31:17 palestinian state and a pathway to palestinian statehood is outlined as a possibility but not a
0:31:24 guarantee and just back to the point about if you’re concerned about israel and jews a new polling of
0:31:29 americans show that the israeli war effort is rapidly losing support in the u.s i think people are exhausted
0:31:35 the share of americans that believe israel is going too far has grown to roughly 40 percent from just 27
0:31:39 percent at the beginning of the war which is a 50 percent increase 55 percent are extremely concerned
0:31:45 about starvation among gazans 53 percent are extremely concerned about israeli strikes killing civilians
0:31:54 and more than two-thirds of jewish americans have a negative view of netanyahu so this is for a lot of
0:32:01 reasons whether you you know when i talk to people in the trump administration and they talk about ice
0:32:05 raids where they talk about these tariffs i think they’re bad actors i don’t think they’re concerned
0:32:10 with getting to the truth i think they’re concerned with supporting uh what is a difficult tenuous political
0:32:16 viewpoint when i talk to people who disagree with me on israel i find they’re good actors they’re
0:32:23 genuinely concerned now i immediately ask them about the protests they’re going to for sudan or or catholics
0:32:29 whatever i but generally speaking i have close friends who are on the total opposite side of this
0:32:35 issue as i am i find they are good actors who who are concerned for the right reasons and we have
0:32:43 i understand and empathize with their disagreement this is terrible right now for israel and jews every
0:32:48 day this goes on whether you believe it’s warranted to go on whether you believe the terms are unacceptable
0:32:56 for israel every day that it goes on the i mean i’m speaking at the simon wiesenthalter center in a few
0:33:03 weeks and the reality is and i was writing out some of my comments there were 16 million jews in 1939
0:33:10 hitler took us down to 9 million it’s taken us 80 years to get back to 16 million there are 1.1 billion
0:33:18 muslims and the notion that if we don’t figure out a way to be again seen as the good guys even if it
0:33:22 costs geopolitical power even if it involves making decisions that we are uncomfortable with and by the
0:33:28 way i think my viewpoint is where 70 of israeli citizens are right now if israel doesn’t quickly
0:33:35 figure out a way to take back the mantle as the good guys we can’t we won’t survive
0:33:43 i mean six for everyone israeli there’s 80 muslims and not all muslims are anti-semitic
0:33:50 but if you look at the if you just look at the sheer numbers and jesus christ go on my youtube channel
0:33:55 and find my comments about israel and see the comments that fill up i mean we just have to face
0:34:03 reality here folks we are vastly outnumbered and the only way we we survive is to punch above our weight
0:34:09 class not only militarily not only economically but from a position of the moral high ground and that
0:34:14 occasionally means quite frankly you know leaving something i didn’t i’m taking this back to business
0:34:19 i didn’t learn this till i was much older i saw transactions as i need to be on the equivalent or
0:34:24 the better side of a transaction and then i realized as i got older actually good business people leave
0:34:30 some on the table and are generous and sometimes just swallow it and take it and i worry that if this
0:34:39 thing doesn’t end fast we are we are we are in a downward spiral of global reputation and a small
0:34:45 nation of 16 million people regardless of their military competence and precision anti-terrorist
0:34:50 strikes it is going to be very hard for us to maintain any sort of long-term enduring society
0:34:54 with 16 million people if we are not firmly seen again as the good guys
0:35:01 yep i mean we’ve lost here in the u.s an entire generation you know gen z uh has
0:35:09 no affection whatsoever for israel isn’t trying to justify october 7th but is much more concerned
0:35:18 in what has happened october 8th onwards than what happened um on the day itself and there is no
0:35:24 getting around that i’m watching campaigns senate campaigns play out all across the country graham
0:35:31 platner in maine mallory mcmorrow has just uh changed her position um she used to speak very differently
0:35:39 about a just war or what israel was doing um has changed course platner you know he’s an oyster
0:35:46 farmer and veteran running for senate against susan collins and he does all the right things and talking
0:35:53 about the oligarchy and you know it’s us versus them and working people and affordability but a core
0:36:00 component of his campaign is like a you know going against a pack money and that that there was a
0:36:08 genocide being carried out and so if this is becoming a central issue in all the important marquee races
0:36:15 across the country you know that what you were just saying is very very true and we’re at a tenuous
0:36:24 or perilous moment for the future of kind of like pro israel american jews um and also jews within the
0:36:31 democratic party like just look at you know how the chips fell in the new york city and the mayoral primary
0:36:38 for instance um and a lot of people who feel more similarly jews who think like bradlander does or mom
0:36:46 donnie does about what’s going on than how andrew cuomo feels about it so it’s a it’s a big moment
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0:37:28 welcome back before we go the manosphere the same space that helped fuel trump’s rise is now showing
0:37:34 signs of buyer’s remorse aiden ross who live streamed with trump in 2024 is rethinking his involvement
0:37:39 admitting i wish i never got into politics he says it’s overshadowed who he really is and has made him
0:37:44 hesitant to ever engage politically again you know welcome to our world ross isn’t alone creators
0:37:49 including andrew schultz joe rogan theo vaughn have also expressed frustration or tried to distance
0:37:54 themselves after giving trump major digital platforms what are your thoughts on this well i think it’s good
0:38:03 to own it publicly if you made a mistake versus kind of not covering the things that are upsetting you
0:38:09 which mostly this has revolved around immigration uh andrew schultz i think was the first one to start
0:38:16 talking about it and then theo vaughn you know something he said was used in a dhs video um against
0:38:23 you know no consent to do that and he uh as part of his show i guess like last week was talking about it
0:38:30 and said that he absolutely wouldn’t be lending his support in that way and that also he’s really
0:38:35 scared about what’s going on you know he said my father’s a nicaraguan immigrant um what’s frustrating
0:38:43 for me i guess is twofold one you know with great power comes great responsibility and i’m not saying that
0:38:52 you shouldn’t be able to have fun and knock ideas around without being totally precise about your
0:38:58 language or thinking about well what if someone takes it like this blah blah blah blah blah but if you are
0:39:03 sitting down with the guy who was the president and is going to be the president again potentially
0:39:11 you have to take that very seriously and for all of the shock and surprise like were you paying any
0:39:19 attention to what his campaign was predicated on did your research people if you have them say like
0:39:26 here’s project 2025 i’ve put you know i’ve highlighted the parts that you should pay attention to
0:39:31 because it’s all there there is very little that has occurred i can’t even actually think of something
0:39:37 i get it you know we say like oh i’m so surprised he said x y or z thing but the actual actions that have
0:39:43 been taken by this administration are straight out of a literal playbook that you could print out and uh
0:39:49 read through before bed and so that’s really frustrating to me and i don’t want to be like the
0:39:54 debbie downer that said like oh i told you so but you know you’re shocked that he’s rounding up people
0:40:01 at home depot like give me a break yeah i you know like i i do think the democrats need to be better at
0:40:09 embracing imperfect allies and that is the greatest the greatest collective victory of the last century
0:40:18 was world war ii when you know russians brits france you know people who really didn’t like each other
0:40:23 and were ready to not get along as soon as the war was over came together and said this is a bigger
0:40:30 threat so something i don’t like about the left is that they treat everyone that doesn’t sign up for
0:40:38 the exact same fucking narrative in hardcore orthodoxy as an apostate and uh i know you get this i get this a
0:40:44 lot if you say yeah i don’t i don’t think borrowers of student loans should be bailed out we thought we
0:40:48 could trust you yeah yeah biden is just too fucking old and he’s a narcissist and he should do what he
0:40:55 said and be a transitional you don’t understand the assignment scott it’s just there’s there’s a lack
0:41:00 of tolerance for critical thinking or going issue by issue and i appreciate that these guys are willing
0:41:07 to say and they have huge platforms you know uh yeah i did not sign up for this i didn’t realize that
0:41:15 it was going to go quote unquote this far and i go back and you know i’m a hammer everything i see is a
0:41:22 nail people don’t realize these guys played an enormous role in the election of the president
0:41:30 because if you look at who pivoted hardest from blue to red 2020 to 2024 one of the biggest groups was
0:41:38 people under the age of 30 of which these guys are as or more dominant than cbs nbc abc cnn msnbc all
0:41:44 combined they’re just the exposure trump got on rogan was equivalent to three hours a night of prime
0:41:51 time cable across all three major networks for two weeks i mean quite frankly unless it took two weeks
0:41:56 for vice president harris to get to austin and back she should have done it because there was nothing
0:42:01 she could do that would have as much impact as going on rogan and i remember speaking to someone
0:42:05 about it i’m like rogan doesn’t embarrass people he doesn’t call people out he’s not looking for a
0:42:14 gotcha moment uh she should absolutely do it but and also the other group that swung incredibly hard
0:42:19 was 45 to 64 year old women and my thesis jess is that is that that’s their mothers and we don’t like
0:42:26 to talk about this because we like to assume every woman is this independent saint but there’s still a
0:42:34 large cohort of women who will vote for who they perceive as being uh best for their husbands and sons
0:42:41 and i think the manosphere delivered the election because to the rights credit they noticed the problems
0:42:47 facing young men and the lack of empathy now granted i think their response unfortunately is too much
0:42:53 coarseness and cruelty uh but i applaud that these guys i actually think most of these guys i’ve been
0:42:59 on theo von’s podcast i haven’t been on rogan or uh andrew schultz i found theo von i like him i think
0:43:04 he’s refreshing i don’t agree with his politics but i like the idea of a guy who didn’t go to
0:43:12 you know journalism school at at northwestern and you know and is is is a recovering addict he speaks in a
0:43:17 very real way i think he’s funny i think these guys play a really important role in media
0:43:27 and i don’t think anyone has really acknowledged they are the new power like what what you know i love
0:43:35 jake tapper but what jake tapper says what what you know i don’t know who the biggest host is on fox now
0:43:41 what who’s the biggest house with jesse waters with jake tapper and then who’s the biggest host on
0:43:51 msnbc i don’t know is it amato they are literally peewee football compared to the tom brady i should
0:43:58 not use sports analogies of of these guys these guys have these guys appeal to the swing voter that
0:44:04 is a young male who votes on economic issues and economic issues flip back and forth people ping back
0:44:07 and forth between the democratic and republican party around who they think will be best for their pocket
0:44:14 but these guys in my view along with probably elon musk his targeting and his quarter of a billion dollars
0:44:23 i think they delivered the election to trump so i i’m i’m going down i’m i’m boasting now because
0:44:29 i’m desperate for your affirmation just but i’m going down to speak to the the democratic senate caucus
0:44:34 in a couple weeks and i’m just talking about media landscape and basically my message is
0:44:44 podcasts i mean just fucking figure it out have mics everywhere follow your guy around with a phone
0:44:50 and a mic and get on as many podcasts as possible because that’s the fertile ground you want to advertise
0:44:54 on local news stations because old people watch the weather and that attractive young thing who’s wearing
0:45:00 a sleeveless dress fine but guess what they already know who they’re voting for a seven-year-old white
0:45:07 woman knows who she’s voting for it’s the 34 year old male that you flip a coin and it’s kind of up for
0:45:12 grabs if you will young women are a little bit more steadfast they’re not as quite frankly they’re not as
0:45:21 malleable um but these are these guys these guys are the new walter cronkites tom brokaw i don’t
0:45:30 know who the big influences were that shifted public opinion but anyways imperfect allies i i i i the
0:45:37 democratic party should be bear hugging these guys well they’re trying and also say give them you know
0:45:44 invite them into the tent and and also anyone who wants to be president we just interviewed jb pritzker
0:45:54 jb should be hanging out jb the governors newsom’s more bashear senators murphy bennett klobuchar
0:46:00 governor whitmer anyone who wants to be president should have a second home in austin right now because
0:46:06 that’s where all these manosphere podcasters are uh by the way i was on chris williams podcast yesterday
0:46:11 i love him do you know chris williams no just oh he’s great oh he’s like that thoughtful monk
0:46:16 manosphere oh i do know who you’re talking about yeah yeah anyways that’s very cool i think it’s
0:46:22 very fantastic anyways i a little bit better uh we need to embrace imperfect allies these guys are
0:46:30 hugely important i mean the key component is if they’ll have us because they are not interested in
0:46:37 being a a stop on a press tour right like they want they want to have good heartfelt conversations with
0:46:44 people like bernie and pete buddha judge have been on with andrew schultz but you know that’s not an
0:46:53 easy booking to get and the democratic brand is so stale and you know not risky or risk averse i
0:46:58 should say um that they don’t necessarily seem like they’re going to be a good hang you know and like
0:47:03 these guys want to have a good hang if they’re inviting you on for an hour so we gotta get cooler
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0:01:52 your podcasts welcome to raging moderates i’m scott galloway and i’m jess katarlath how are you jess
0:01:57 i’m good how are you i’m good it’s a beautiful day here in london and when you say it’s a beautiful
0:02:02 day here in london you really mean it because there aren’t that many no but when they happen they’re the
0:02:09 best days extraordinary absolutely extraordinary i want you to do the pod but i also want you to be
0:02:14 at an outdoor pub just enjoying i do the pub part i’m not good at the outdoor but i’m the great
0:02:19 endorsement i don’t really you sit inside even on a day like this oh yeah i don’t like culture i don’t
0:02:29 like the outdoors i just uh netflix edibles bar boom boom boom check check check that’s yeah no you need
0:02:34 the vitamin d though what’s the weather like in new york right now actually it’s real well it’s weird i
0:02:41 thought we were in fall i had my cute sweater is out and it’s like 80 degrees i heard it again yeah
0:02:48 you know what it’s like when you’re like you’re not full sweat but you’re like a little a little
0:02:54 yeah like some drops are happening and you see like the little back sweat on other people which i mean i
0:02:59 shouldn’t be in the you know whatever we all look at other people anyway it’s hot here and it’s hot here
0:03:04 and i’m ready for fall i was i have an oddly high tolerance for sweating i don’t sweat very easily
0:03:10 that’s one of the few one of the few attractive things about me um but the pheromones come in the
0:03:15 sweat people there you go trust me there’s whatever whatever the pheromone is that says i need to get
0:03:21 away from this guy i have that all right today we’re talking about trump’s potentially illegal
0:03:27 takeover of liberal cities a possible ceasefire deal between hamas and israel and why the
0:03:31 manosphere is breaking up with trump all right let’s get into it the trump administration is
0:03:35 facing a legal standoff over its push to deploy national guard troops to democrat-led cities
0:03:42 including chicago and portland illinois and oregon have sued calling the deployments patently unlawful
0:03:46 and a federal judge recently blocked troops from going to portland calling the president’s claims
0:03:53 about unrest simply untethered to the facts meanwhile white house aide steven miller insists the
0:03:58 administration has other options to send federal resources framing the situation as a fight against
0:04:05 what he calls domestic terrorism jess with polls showing most voters disapprove of the guard deployments
0:04:10 could these actions backfire politically for trump i think we need to reassess what
0:04:17 politically means for trump so like are the republicans going to lose the midterms
0:04:24 sure i think that that should happen and historically that is what happens i hope that it’s a decent
0:04:31 size majority and not just a couple of seats in our direction but like that’s one thing and then there’s
0:04:39 politically backfire in the are we going to have americans all over the country in the streets like
0:04:46 where maybe not every day but you have a lot of no kings protests which are happening far too sporadically
0:04:55 i think for the overreach that this government um is you know putting upon us on a daily basis certainly
0:05:02 if you live in one of their uh target areas like in a portland or chicago los angeles and
0:05:10 i’m not sure that the anger that the that you get in the conversations with people about what’s going on
0:05:18 is translating into these tangible events that the administration is going to have to take notice of
0:05:23 like the courts are doing their jobs and they’re ruling against him you know left right and center
0:05:29 um but then they find another way to get to where they’re going and stephen miller is very crafty right
0:05:38 and russ vote is very crafty and i’m kind of surprised having watched a ton of footage of what is going on in
0:05:46 chicago you know like i’m not sure if you saw this video but two ice officers got out of a regular car
0:05:56 like just an suv and are trying to cuff a migrant or i presume was a migrant and the everyone got out of
0:06:02 their cars started filming them and screaming at them and eventually after like seven eight minutes they
0:06:09 gave up right so like that’s what life is like in chicago right now and i you know walking through
0:06:16 downtown new york city and you know we’re like-minded and kind of akin cities right to chicago and it’s
0:06:21 like you know that people are on their phones calling people texting people saying i can’t believe he’s doing
0:06:27 this or that but you feel like the moment should be bigger i guess in the in the rest of the country
0:06:33 and i’m not feeling that yet and so the politics of an election is one thing but the politics of
0:06:41 how the american populace writ large responds to an authoritarian power grab by the trump administration
0:06:47 has not been severe enough for me yeah it’s interesting i remember someone saying they were
0:06:54 outraged at the lack of outrage on an issue five or ten years ago and yeah and just a quick a quick call
0:07:00 out we just got off with governor jb pritzker governor of illinois discussing this exact issue
0:07:05 and for those of you who want to see that and other quick takes please go to our raging moderates youtube
0:07:13 channel and subscribe but it’s interesting it is very it’s difficult to figure out where the red line is
0:07:22 and what’s interesting is that the um attempt to what was appeared what felt like the censorship of a late
0:07:29 night talk show host appeared to foment more outrage than people being literally rounded up
0:07:36 by people in masks i would have not guessed that i would have not i would have thought that people
0:07:44 would see i mean let’s just provide some context here they call them undocumented workers these people
0:07:49 have documents like no tomorrow they have phone contracts they have driver’s licenses they have
0:07:55 insurance agreements they have w-2s they have social security numbers yeah they have tax payment stubs
0:08:00 they file their taxes because we want to pay their taxes they have bank accounts such that we can
0:08:06 american banks can can make money off of the float they have credit cards issued by credit card by
0:08:11 comerica and visa such that they can get their two or three percent they have documents coming out of
0:08:16 their asses and speaking of asses these are the people that have been wiping grandma’s ass such that
0:08:20 you can afford to keep her at home and such you can afford to take your wife out to eat because
0:08:25 restaurants are much less expensive and you can have a home for four hundred thousand instead of
0:08:31 seven hundred thousand because folks domestic workers will no longer work outside they just won’t
0:08:36 as someone who has renovated a bunch of homes the only domestic workers who will now have anything to
0:08:41 do with a with home construction as far as i can tell are plumbers and electricians if you go outdoors
0:08:50 it’s all immigrants slash i would imagine undocumented workers and we have let this go on for 40 years
0:08:54 because it’s ultimately at the end of the day one of the most flexible economically prosperous
0:09:00 workforces in history now did we take it too far and let a quarter of a million come across the border
0:09:05 and raise their hand and say asylum and let them in during december of 23 under the bide administration
0:09:15 absolutely but to see this now to see people in masks rounding up gardeners housekeepers restaurant
0:09:23 workers people who’ve been here 10 20 years and also my understanding is a non-zero number of
0:09:29 citizens yeah yeah and it takes they have to be incarcerated for 72 hours before they finally
0:09:34 work through the system and they get released i went to this one of these high-end masters of the
0:09:40 universe conferences and i met a kind of a household name anchor and this person said their partner had
0:09:48 gone had left the country not because their partner wasn’t a citizen this person is but had migrated from
0:09:55 another country and had serious anxiety about them or someone in their family being rounded up incorrectly
0:10:04 right so this is just creating a vibe that is so unhealthy and so ugly and i would argue in terms of national
0:10:13 security that this is just such an enormous fucking distraction that we’re deploying our troops i like
0:10:16 using our troops aggressively i don’t think there’s any reason to spend a trillion dollars on the military
0:10:20 unless you’re going to actually use it i don’t think it’s just a deterrence force but instead of deploying
0:10:26 troops to portland shouldn’t we be figuring out a peacekeeping force in gaza shouldn’t we be providing
0:10:31 hardware and the ability to launch long-range tomahawk missiles into the oil infrastructure in russia
0:10:37 instead we have these guys at a donut shop and in portland we have our troops by the way i’ve heard
0:10:42 anyone who talks to our troops not ice but our troops the troops don’t know what the fuck they’re doing
0:10:48 they’re not happy about this ice unfortunately when you tell guys hey do you want to abuse immigrants
0:10:55 and get to wear a mask that is a whistle for some very strange individuals your thoughts yes
0:11:01 totally i mean you’re wondering what like the proud boys and oath keepers and those types of people could
0:11:08 be doing um in the year 2025 taking that uh fifty thousand dollar bonus to get to sign up and uh go
0:11:13 work for ice i think would be pretty high on that list and you’re absolutely correct about the rounding
0:11:19 up of american citizens we have a lawsuit out of alabama an american citizen who has been arrested not once
0:11:26 but twice a construction worker who even had real id to present i know rich people in new york city who
0:11:33 haven’t bothered to get down to the dmv to get their real ids but this guy totally compliant with
0:11:40 the law has his id even they don’t care so that’s that lawsuit out of alabama we’ll see what happens
0:11:47 there you had the raid on the south side of chicago that apartment complex where they’re using black hawk
0:11:54 helicopters and they’re pulling american citizens and allegedly trender aragua members out of their beds
0:12:01 as if they are the same there are kids on the street unclothed partially clothed zip tying these
0:12:08 kids together i’m sure there was some bad shit going on in that apartment complex too but it is a complete
0:12:14 infringement on your constitutional rights that they can just show up and haul you out of your bed
0:12:19 there is no reason having watched the interviews that these people who live in the complex are giving
0:12:24 that anyone who works for ice or cpb who was executing this thought that those people were
0:12:30 undocumented those are people who have lived on the south side of chicago their entire lives
0:12:38 and yeah i’m surprised there isn’t more outrage and that it is not being channeled in the right
0:12:44 direction and you’re also completely right to highlight the fact that like there’s real crime going on in
0:12:50 this country and that we are moving people off of investigating drug smuggling sexual exploitation
0:12:57 and organized crime to redirect them to this effort because steven miller thinks that we need to arrest
0:13:04 3 000 people a day because that was just some number that he came up with and we’re for the pro-law
0:13:10 enforcement party it’s a complete farce i don’t know if you saw this as well like donald trump didn’t even
0:13:17 know that his administration had taken 187 million dollars out of new york’s counterterrorism budget
0:13:25 kathy hochel had to call trump tell him what happened said he had no idea that this had happened
0:13:32 i mean i understand he is technically in charge he is the president i have accepted it this is not a case of tds
0:13:38 but he is not the one running this ship stephen miller is running the ship russ vote is running
0:13:43 the ship and they’re not even bothering to tell him about things that they don’t think he needs to know
0:13:50 or things that might bother him i mean the readout from meetings like when uh schumer and jeffries went
0:13:56 in to talk about the shutdown is like he didn’t even know the details about the aca premiums going up a
0:14:06 average of 114 the guy lives in this curated tiny bubble where they only show him clips and tv segments
0:14:12 that will reaffirm their point of view or their view of the world and they don’t for for the guy that’s
0:14:17 out there all the time you know man of the people he has no exposure to the realities on the ground he’s
0:14:23 posting about how rich the farmers are i mean these soybean farmers are in complete economic freefall
0:14:28 having a panic attack and on top of it don’t want the bailout they want to be able to just make a
0:14:33 living through their hard work as they could just a year ago yeah i don’t know i don’t have as much
0:14:38 empathy for farmers i think they were out of business 20 years ago they just don’t know it i think they’ve
0:14:44 been uneconomic in this notion of this cartoon of the family farm it’s mostly corporate farms who are
0:14:54 economically unviable and also farmers voted in mass for trump and the joke is well i voted for racism not for
0:15:00 tariffs well boss you’re the same people as a group that were just outraged at a bailout of student loan
0:15:06 borrowers but seem to now have your hand out and guess what folks your business isn’t coming back
0:15:11 china has established supply chains with argentina and brazil around soybeans now and
0:15:17 burning your crops quite frankly and unfortunately is probably the right thing and i don’t want to
0:15:23 mock anyone’s economic despair but quite frankly what did you think you were going to get anyways with
0:15:29 that ugly why’d you have to inject reality into my little soybean rant there you go let’s take a let’s
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0:17:37 welcome back tensions in gaza may be at a turning point as indirect talks between israeli and palestinian
0:17:42 negotiators kicked off monday evening in egypt working on president trump’s gaza ceasefire plan the
0:17:49 discussions mediated by the u.s qatar egypt and turkey are expected to last a few days meanwhile trump is
0:17:56 urging negotiators to move fast as he warned hamas of obliteration if they refuse to cede power on the
0:18:01 ground the human toll continues to mount even if some see a glimmer of hope for a truce just
0:18:07 what is your sense of the main sticking points in these talks and how likely is a deal to actually
0:18:13 hold i think before we get into the deal i mean we should we’re recording this on october 7th it’s the
0:18:21 two-year anniversary of that horrific terrorist attack that killed nearly 1200 israelis 250 taken hostage
0:18:28 and in the two years since then it’s reported that 60 000 palestinians have been killed and more than
0:18:36 169 000 have been injured um there has been a tremendous amount of bloodshed some of it completely
0:18:45 unnecessary certainly the terrorist attack and some of what’s gone on in gaza and it feels like it was to
0:18:54 some degree yesterday and to some degree like a million years ago and i remain optimistic from our
0:19:01 conversation last month that a deal can get done i think it it matters especially that cutter is at the
0:19:08 table and as part of the mediation team um in egypt alongside the united states because without cutter
0:19:14 hamas cannot exist you know cutter has been their safe haven has been their financial backers in all
0:19:22 of this so i’m trying to remain positive on that but it’s you know it’s a it’s a heavy thing and i saw
0:19:28 um at colombia of all places which was really the hotbed of kind of the pro-palestinian and in many
0:19:36 cases anti-israel protests that they have this mile-long memorial with 1200 empty chairs across the campus
0:19:44 um which is a beautiful tribute to the horrors uh of october 7th and those lives that were lost
0:19:49 um so those are my kind of top line october 7 thoughts i don’t know if you have any well one
0:19:57 i think we’re really starting to see and pay the price for threats that have absolutely no
0:20:02 veracity anymore but didn’t he just say on thursday if hamas didn’t accept a deal by sunday all hell was
0:20:09 going to break loose i mean it’s just hell’s on a sliding scale i think we’re moving it back
0:20:15 wasn’t ukraine going to be done into these deadlines no one takes seriously anymore and the latest i’ve
0:20:21 heard and i wanted to get dan senor on the pod because he just gets the nuance here or he just he’s
0:20:27 going to forget more about this than at least i’m ever going to know but what i’ve heard or the latest is
0:20:34 that while hamas agreed to certain points they they refused or disagreed on certain points including
0:20:41 a requirement that they disarm okay if if hamas isn’t willing to lay down their weapons
0:20:49 then i don’t see how this gets done at all i’m with you on this the war really needs to come to an end
0:20:56 the the the suffering the the devastation the destruction the humanitarian crisis here
0:21:04 i believe when you incur this viciously into uh a nation that has a superior military infrastructure
0:21:09 and is an ally of the u.s you are going to pay a severe price and gaza is now has the greatest
0:21:14 concentration of child amputees in the world the devastation here has been just
0:21:23 striking uh horrific it needs to end and every day that moves on as as a jew and someone who’s pro-israel
0:21:33 every day this goes on creates more danger and erodes the safety and the moral high ground if we can
0:21:40 still claim that of jews and israel around the world this is just this is just bad for everybody
0:21:46 every minute that this goes on the question is okay well how do we end it and america has to play a key
0:21:53 role in that i think a pan-arab security force the problem is we have a president that’s got the attention
0:22:00 span of a cat on meth and i worry and there’s a reason there are thousands of people in the state
0:22:06 department because to iron out all the details here takes real work real patience and incredible
0:22:13 diplomacy none of which i believe the president um i’m i don’t trust i mean this is where you pay the
0:22:21 price for having incompetence like a secretary of war lecturing people who have pieces of of men
0:22:28 tougher than him in their shit i’m talking about you secretary of war hegseth who who disparages
0:22:33 the most talented competent and lethal people in the history of the world in a room anyway
0:22:40 i worry that the layer down of diplomats are not as skilled as they should be and that the president
0:22:47 will move on to something else after his empty threats and that netanyahu i don’t think is a good
0:22:54 actor i i think that he is someone who’s more focused on staying out of jail and remaining on a war
0:23:03 footing such that he can be seen as a wartime leader so i i’m not as hopeful here as meant as other people
0:23:06 that this is going to happen and when hamas says they refuse to lay down their arms or that’s a point
0:23:11 where they refuse to lay down their arms well that’s sort of a deal killer i mean people say would you
0:23:19 would you have left nazis in germany and i think that’s a decent argument probably not would we have
0:23:27 let the nazis rearm no 100 we wouldn’t have allowed that so a lot of press releases a lot of
0:23:35 a lot of imagery of donald trump and a hundred yard dash for a nobel prize but i don’t see the groundwork
0:23:42 of a pan-arab security force multiple parties trying to figure this out what i hope is that
0:23:48 the leadership of hamas who i understand is holed up and being you know hotel room in qatar guarded by
0:23:55 uh qatari guards and basically are said you know you either agree to this deal or or you know the the
0:24:01 israelis have a have a have a habit of tracking down people the israelis um strategy has been around
0:24:06 targeted assassinations actually more than war despite these recent conflicts and you can bet
0:24:12 those folks in this room uh in qatar right now have a lot of incentive i would think to try and get a
0:24:19 deal done pretty crisply but i just we’re dealing with an enemy here that is unlike other enemies the
0:24:28 west has faced in that they see uh continued death as martyrdom for their populace so i’m actually
0:24:35 i really want this to come to an end for all parties involved i’m skeptical that this is going to
0:24:40 actually happen and i worry that trump will not demonstrate the patience and the leadership to do
0:24:46 the hard work you know underneath these secretaries of state are thousands of people that actually got to
0:24:51 get that have to get the shit done and work out all the details well that was something a secretary
0:24:57 clinton said um when she was on over the summer and she said you know i don’t know special envoy
0:25:04 whitkoff personally but i do know that this is not a job for one person right that you can be in charge of
0:25:11 peace in the middle east and russia ukraine also you know making sure that china doesn’t keep advancing
0:25:19 like it’s too many jobs for one person same goes for what’s going on with marco rubio as well he has
0:25:27 what like four or five positions he did say um this weekend i think on face the nation that the that
0:25:34 hamas has agreed to the hostage release framework um which is pretty startling uh so under that plan
0:25:40 the hostages will be exchanged for 250 palestinians and they their expectation is that there are 20
0:25:47 hostages that are still alive and the remains of 25 of them and there was discussion of getting the
0:25:53 hostages back by thursday of this week so in 48 hours but hamas has apparently said they can’t like
0:26:01 locate all the remains in that amount of time i don’t know what they have been doing um with those
0:26:06 remains i don’t even want to think about it but that’s at least our goal to be getting this kind
0:26:13 of 45 to 50 people in various uh you know states of alive or dead back and so for the hostages 250
0:26:19 palestinian prisoners serving life sentences will be released and 1700 gazans that are jailed by israel
0:26:24 during the war and for every hostage whose remains are released israel will also release the remains of
0:26:30 15 gazans um so that’s at least the framework that they’re trying to make happen to your point about
0:26:36 you know being skeptical but hopeful i’ve been watching a lot of interviews with the hostage
0:26:42 parents and you know they all congregate together it’s completely heartbreaking but they actually seem
0:26:50 hopeful for the first time since kind of in the immediate aftermath of all of this um and one of
0:26:56 the parents who has a son that’s being held in gaza expected to be alive um said please end this
0:27:04 nightmare please make it happen and they do believe that donald trump can do this and dan sinor who i
0:27:10 would love to have back on the pod obviously i was watching one of his uh videos that he posted and he said
0:27:17 why he is more optimistic about this is that he believes that trump it seems as though he’s kind of
0:27:23 just fed up and i feel the same way about what’s going on with russia and ukraine like he rolls out the
0:27:28 red carpet quite literally for putin right comes to alaska and then putin leaves the next day to go
0:27:37 to china and hang out with his real friends and that he’s just kind of done with people bossing him
0:27:45 around and if it makes him feel super powerful and like he leans into that aspect of it and that results
0:27:52 in ukraine not having to cede as much territory as alinsky is even willing to or that these hostages
0:27:58 come back and israel pulls out of gaza and you know hamas lays down his weapons which i understand
0:28:04 it’s going to be a tough sell then you know count me in in the uh adulation for trump on this one i did
0:28:08 it with the abraham accords during the first administration and i would certainly do it again
0:28:12 yeah i think you’re giving him more credit than he deserves i think one of the reasons that business
0:28:18 people don’t make great politicians they you know they can be good cabinet members great treasury
0:28:25 secretaries great secretaries of commerce is that business business kind of brings forward very rational
0:28:29 actors in the sense that they’re focused on fear and greed and everybody kind of understands each other
0:28:35 we’re all trying to increase profits earnings per share in and have similar values across at least
0:28:42 across capitalist societies to get business done it’s totally different in politics you’re dealing with
0:28:48 ideology you’re dealing with re-elections you’re dealing with uh optics and politics as opposed to
0:28:53 actually getting things done you’re dealing with people who might be running for election to stay out of
0:28:59 prison i mean it’s just you’re dealing with the slow bureaucratic state so generally speaking business
0:29:06 these people don’t make great leaders in government and trump i did i had some exposure to one of the
0:29:14 trump kids and in their business and essentially the trump enterprise and the way he was raised was
0:29:20 be famous and then slap your name on something but don’t do any actual work where where trump made all
0:29:27 of his money was one a reality show well one inheriting money the smartest thing he ever did was he inherited
0:29:33 a lot of money the second was he made a bunch of money he’s an amazing reality tv show and then what
0:29:38 he would do is famous for being famous slap his logo on a building have someone else build it have someone
0:29:43 else run it and skim a licensing fee whenever he actually got involved in the operations of anything
0:29:51 it usually ended up with unpaid subcontractors and or bankruptcy and so this is not an individual
0:29:57 who has any background or any credibility or any training and actually being a relatively good
0:30:05 operator or manager and that does not lend itself well to a situation like pulling together a peace plan
0:30:11 along these lines so i don’t i i worry that he does not hire the right people he does not create the
0:30:17 right incentives he does not create the right culture and job descriptions that result in an
0:30:24 effective administration and it my understanding is whoever speaks to him last is the strategy he
0:30:31 decides to deploy here the fact that dan senor is optimistic uh to me is really uh really exciting
0:30:38 because let’s just outline before i i motor on too long here just some key aspects of the proposed plan
0:30:44 gaza will be redeveloped for the people of gaza in quotes if accepted the israeli military offensive
0:30:50 will end immediately all hostages will be released dead and alive israel will release 250 life sentence
0:30:55 prisoners plus 1700 gazans who were detained after october 7th 2023 including all women and children
0:31:01 detained in that context for every israeli hostage whose remains are released israel will release the
0:31:06 remains of 15 deceased gazans hamas will lay down arms and be allowed to leave gaza if desired
0:31:11 full aid will be sent into gaza hamas will not have any influence in the governments of a future
0:31:17 palestinian state and a pathway to palestinian statehood is outlined as a possibility but not a
0:31:24 guarantee and just back to the point about if you’re concerned about israel and jews a new polling of
0:31:29 americans show that the israeli war effort is rapidly losing support in the u.s i think people are exhausted
0:31:35 the share of americans that believe israel is going too far has grown to roughly 40 percent from just 27
0:31:39 percent at the beginning of the war which is a 50 percent increase 55 percent are extremely concerned
0:31:45 about starvation among gazans 53 percent are extremely concerned about israeli strikes killing civilians
0:31:54 and more than two-thirds of jewish americans have a negative view of netanyahu so this is for a lot of
0:32:01 reasons whether you you know when i talk to people in the trump administration and they talk about ice
0:32:05 raids where they talk about these tariffs i think they’re bad actors i don’t think they’re concerned
0:32:10 with getting to the truth i think they’re concerned with supporting uh what is a difficult tenuous political
0:32:16 viewpoint when i talk to people who disagree with me on israel i find they’re good actors they’re
0:32:23 genuinely concerned now i immediately ask them about the protests they’re going to for sudan or or catholics
0:32:29 whatever i but generally speaking i have close friends who are on the total opposite side of this
0:32:35 issue as i am i find they are good actors who who are concerned for the right reasons and we have
0:32:43 i understand and empathize with their disagreement this is terrible right now for israel and jews every
0:32:48 day this goes on whether you believe it’s warranted to go on whether you believe the terms are unacceptable
0:32:56 for israel every day that it goes on the i mean i’m speaking at the simon wiesenthalter center in a few
0:33:03 weeks and the reality is and i was writing out some of my comments there were 16 million jews in 1939
0:33:10 hitler took us down to 9 million it’s taken us 80 years to get back to 16 million there are 1.1 billion
0:33:18 muslims and the notion that if we don’t figure out a way to be again seen as the good guys even if it
0:33:22 costs geopolitical power even if it involves making decisions that we are uncomfortable with and by the
0:33:28 way i think my viewpoint is where 70 of israeli citizens are right now if israel doesn’t quickly
0:33:35 figure out a way to take back the mantle as the good guys we can’t we won’t survive
0:33:43 i mean six for everyone israeli there’s 80 muslims and not all muslims are anti-semitic
0:33:50 but if you look at the if you just look at the sheer numbers and jesus christ go on my youtube channel
0:33:55 and find my comments about israel and see the comments that fill up i mean we just have to face
0:34:03 reality here folks we are vastly outnumbered and the only way we we survive is to punch above our weight
0:34:09 class not only militarily not only economically but from a position of the moral high ground and that
0:34:14 occasionally means quite frankly you know leaving something i didn’t i’m taking this back to business
0:34:19 i didn’t learn this till i was much older i saw transactions as i need to be on the equivalent or
0:34:24 the better side of a transaction and then i realized as i got older actually good business people leave
0:34:30 some on the table and are generous and sometimes just swallow it and take it and i worry that if this
0:34:39 thing doesn’t end fast we are we are we are in a downward spiral of global reputation and a small
0:34:45 nation of 16 million people regardless of their military competence and precision anti-terrorist
0:34:50 strikes it is going to be very hard for us to maintain any sort of long-term enduring society
0:34:54 with 16 million people if we are not firmly seen again as the good guys
0:35:01 yep i mean we’ve lost here in the u.s an entire generation you know gen z uh has
0:35:09 no affection whatsoever for israel isn’t trying to justify october 7th but is much more concerned
0:35:18 in what has happened october 8th onwards than what happened um on the day itself and there is no
0:35:24 getting around that i’m watching campaigns senate campaigns play out all across the country graham
0:35:31 platner in maine mallory mcmorrow has just uh changed her position um she used to speak very differently
0:35:39 about a just war or what israel was doing um has changed course platner you know he’s an oyster
0:35:46 farmer and veteran running for senate against susan collins and he does all the right things and talking
0:35:53 about the oligarchy and you know it’s us versus them and working people and affordability but a core
0:36:00 component of his campaign is like a you know going against a pack money and that that there was a
0:36:08 genocide being carried out and so if this is becoming a central issue in all the important marquee races
0:36:15 across the country you know that what you were just saying is very very true and we’re at a tenuous
0:36:24 or perilous moment for the future of kind of like pro israel american jews um and also jews within the
0:36:31 democratic party like just look at you know how the chips fell in the new york city and the mayoral primary
0:36:38 for instance um and a lot of people who feel more similarly jews who think like bradlander does or mom
0:36:46 donnie does about what’s going on than how andrew cuomo feels about it so it’s a it’s a big moment
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0:37:28 welcome back before we go the manosphere the same space that helped fuel trump’s rise is now showing
0:37:34 signs of buyer’s remorse aiden ross who live streamed with trump in 2024 is rethinking his involvement
0:37:39 admitting i wish i never got into politics he says it’s overshadowed who he really is and has made him
0:37:44 hesitant to ever engage politically again you know welcome to our world ross isn’t alone creators
0:37:49 including andrew schultz joe rogan theo vaughn have also expressed frustration or tried to distance
0:37:54 themselves after giving trump major digital platforms what are your thoughts on this well i think it’s good
0:38:03 to own it publicly if you made a mistake versus kind of not covering the things that are upsetting you
0:38:09 which mostly this has revolved around immigration uh andrew schultz i think was the first one to start
0:38:16 talking about it and then theo vaughn you know something he said was used in a dhs video um against
0:38:23 you know no consent to do that and he uh as part of his show i guess like last week was talking about it
0:38:30 and said that he absolutely wouldn’t be lending his support in that way and that also he’s really
0:38:35 scared about what’s going on you know he said my father’s a nicaraguan immigrant um what’s frustrating
0:38:43 for me i guess is twofold one you know with great power comes great responsibility and i’m not saying that
0:38:52 you shouldn’t be able to have fun and knock ideas around without being totally precise about your
0:38:58 language or thinking about well what if someone takes it like this blah blah blah blah blah but if you are
0:39:03 sitting down with the guy who was the president and is going to be the president again potentially
0:39:11 you have to take that very seriously and for all of the shock and surprise like were you paying any
0:39:19 attention to what his campaign was predicated on did your research people if you have them say like
0:39:26 here’s project 2025 i’ve put you know i’ve highlighted the parts that you should pay attention to
0:39:31 because it’s all there there is very little that has occurred i can’t even actually think of something
0:39:37 i get it you know we say like oh i’m so surprised he said x y or z thing but the actual actions that have
0:39:43 been taken by this administration are straight out of a literal playbook that you could print out and uh
0:39:49 read through before bed and so that’s really frustrating to me and i don’t want to be like the
0:39:54 debbie downer that said like oh i told you so but you know you’re shocked that he’s rounding up people
0:40:01 at home depot like give me a break yeah i you know like i i do think the democrats need to be better at
0:40:09 embracing imperfect allies and that is the greatest the greatest collective victory of the last century
0:40:18 was world war ii when you know russians brits france you know people who really didn’t like each other
0:40:23 and were ready to not get along as soon as the war was over came together and said this is a bigger
0:40:30 threat so something i don’t like about the left is that they treat everyone that doesn’t sign up for
0:40:38 the exact same fucking narrative in hardcore orthodoxy as an apostate and uh i know you get this i get this a
0:40:44 lot if you say yeah i don’t i don’t think borrowers of student loans should be bailed out we thought we
0:40:48 could trust you yeah yeah biden is just too fucking old and he’s a narcissist and he should do what he
0:40:55 said and be a transitional you don’t understand the assignment scott it’s just there’s there’s a lack
0:41:00 of tolerance for critical thinking or going issue by issue and i appreciate that these guys are willing
0:41:07 to say and they have huge platforms you know uh yeah i did not sign up for this i didn’t realize that
0:41:15 it was going to go quote unquote this far and i go back and you know i’m a hammer everything i see is a
0:41:22 nail people don’t realize these guys played an enormous role in the election of the president
0:41:30 because if you look at who pivoted hardest from blue to red 2020 to 2024 one of the biggest groups was
0:41:38 people under the age of 30 of which these guys are as or more dominant than cbs nbc abc cnn msnbc all
0:41:44 combined they’re just the exposure trump got on rogan was equivalent to three hours a night of prime
0:41:51 time cable across all three major networks for two weeks i mean quite frankly unless it took two weeks
0:41:56 for vice president harris to get to austin and back she should have done it because there was nothing
0:42:01 she could do that would have as much impact as going on rogan and i remember speaking to someone
0:42:05 about it i’m like rogan doesn’t embarrass people he doesn’t call people out he’s not looking for a
0:42:14 gotcha moment uh she should absolutely do it but and also the other group that swung incredibly hard
0:42:19 was 45 to 64 year old women and my thesis jess is that is that that’s their mothers and we don’t like
0:42:26 to talk about this because we like to assume every woman is this independent saint but there’s still a
0:42:34 large cohort of women who will vote for who they perceive as being uh best for their husbands and sons
0:42:41 and i think the manosphere delivered the election because to the rights credit they noticed the problems
0:42:47 facing young men and the lack of empathy now granted i think their response unfortunately is too much
0:42:53 coarseness and cruelty uh but i applaud that these guys i actually think most of these guys i’ve been
0:42:59 on theo von’s podcast i haven’t been on rogan or uh andrew schultz i found theo von i like him i think
0:43:04 he’s refreshing i don’t agree with his politics but i like the idea of a guy who didn’t go to
0:43:12 you know journalism school at at northwestern and you know and is is is a recovering addict he speaks in a
0:43:17 very real way i think he’s funny i think these guys play a really important role in media
0:43:27 and i don’t think anyone has really acknowledged they are the new power like what what you know i love
0:43:35 jake tapper but what jake tapper says what what you know i don’t know who the biggest host is on fox now
0:43:41 what who’s the biggest house with jesse waters with jake tapper and then who’s the biggest host on
0:43:51 msnbc i don’t know is it amato they are literally peewee football compared to the tom brady i should
0:43:58 not use sports analogies of of these guys these guys have these guys appeal to the swing voter that
0:44:04 is a young male who votes on economic issues and economic issues flip back and forth people ping back
0:44:07 and forth between the democratic and republican party around who they think will be best for their pocket
0:44:14 but these guys in my view along with probably elon musk his targeting and his quarter of a billion dollars
0:44:23 i think they delivered the election to trump so i i’m i’m going down i’m i’m boasting now because
0:44:29 i’m desperate for your affirmation just but i’m going down to speak to the the democratic senate caucus
0:44:34 in a couple weeks and i’m just talking about media landscape and basically my message is
0:44:44 podcasts i mean just fucking figure it out have mics everywhere follow your guy around with a phone
0:44:50 and a mic and get on as many podcasts as possible because that’s the fertile ground you want to advertise
0:44:54 on local news stations because old people watch the weather and that attractive young thing who’s wearing
0:45:00 a sleeveless dress fine but guess what they already know who they’re voting for a seven-year-old white
0:45:07 woman knows who she’s voting for it’s the 34 year old male that you flip a coin and it’s kind of up for
0:45:12 grabs if you will young women are a little bit more steadfast they’re not as quite frankly they’re not as
0:45:21 malleable um but these are these guys these guys are the new walter cronkites tom brokaw i don’t
0:45:30 know who the big influences were that shifted public opinion but anyways imperfect allies i i i i the
0:45:37 democratic party should be bear hugging these guys well they’re trying and also say give them you know
0:45:44 invite them into the tent and and also anyone who wants to be president we just interviewed jb pritzker
0:45:54 jb should be hanging out jb the governors newsom’s more bashear senators murphy bennett klobuchar
0:46:00 governor whitmer anyone who wants to be president should have a second home in austin right now because
0:46:06 that’s where all these manosphere podcasters are uh by the way i was on chris williams podcast yesterday
0:46:11 i love him do you know chris williams no just oh he’s great oh he’s like that thoughtful monk
0:46:16 manosphere oh i do know who you’re talking about yeah yeah anyways that’s very cool i think it’s
0:46:22 very fantastic anyways i a little bit better uh we need to embrace imperfect allies these guys are
0:46:30 hugely important i mean the key component is if they’ll have us because they are not interested in
0:46:37 being a a stop on a press tour right like they want they want to have good heartfelt conversations with
0:46:44 people like bernie and pete buddha judge have been on with andrew schultz but you know that’s not an
0:46:53 easy booking to get and the democratic brand is so stale and you know not risky or risk averse i
0:46:58 should say um that they don’t necessarily seem like they’re going to be a good hang you know and like
0:47:03 these guys want to have a good hang if they’re inviting you on for an hour so we gotta get cooler
0:47:07 we’re bringing the d and we’re making them democratic sexy again i’m going to start wearing
0:47:13 i’m going to start showing a little bit of midriff on this part showing i’ve seen oh on this pod yes
0:47:19 you you haven’t done you haven’t been topless here i know what needs to be done i know i i understand
0:47:26 all of you next week then i understand the assignment all right that’s all for this episode thank you for
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