Dr. Jill Stein: How the Two-Party System Is Jeopardizing America’s Future | E304

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0:01:12 What’s wrong with this two-party system is everything that we’re seeing in our lives,
0:01:17 especially young people who are basically the ultimate punching bag right now in this
0:01:19 predatory economy.
0:01:23 People need health care, but that shouldn’t be on the backs of small businesses.
0:01:25 Small businesses have been crushed.
0:01:29 The Democrats are quaking in their boots that people should find out that they actually
0:01:33 have an option like us that will meet their needs.
0:01:34 What do we actually have to do?
0:01:35 What are the steps?
0:01:39 For starters, that’s where the change begins.
0:02:00 Welcome back to the show, Young Improfitors, and today is a really special episode.
0:02:03 We’re going to be doing something much different than usual.
0:02:04 We’re going to be talking about politics.
0:02:08 Now, I typically really try to avoid politics on this show.
0:02:10 We’re a business and entrepreneurship podcast.
0:02:15 However, it is election year in America, and if you’re like me, you’re trying to study
0:02:18 up on all the issues and trying to figure out who you’re going to vote for.
0:02:24 It is very important, and even as businesspeople, as entrepreneurs, small business owners, our
0:02:31 economy, our democracy directly impacts our success as humans and our livelihood, especially
0:02:33 young people, Gen Z, millennials, Gen X.
0:02:37 We really need to care about who we’re putting in power because we’re all trying to still
0:02:40 build our wealth and build our lives.
0:02:45 What better way to learn about all these key issues than to speak directly with a presidential
0:02:46 candidate?
0:02:51 Joining us today on the show is Dr. Jill Stein, who is the presidential nominee for the Green
0:02:52 Party.
0:02:55 She’s also a Harvard-educated doctor.
0:03:00 She is a political activist that has stood against injustice, racism.
0:03:02 She’s for environmental reform.
0:03:06 She’s for having a living wage for everyone, cancelling student debt.
0:03:11 She is for the people, and the Green Party is for the everyday person, really trying
0:03:17 to bring democracy back to America, something we so very need.
0:03:22 In today’s episode, we’re going to cover a lot of hard-hitting topics, like why democracy
0:03:24 is at risk with the two-party system.
0:03:30 We’re going to talk about how the government and democracy is funded by the war machine
0:03:34 and how our democracy is essentially bought right now.
0:03:41 We’re also going to talk about how our government can support small businesses and entrepreneurs
0:03:45 and do things like cancel student debt and enable us to be able to afford housing again.
0:03:47 I can’t wait for this conversation.
0:03:49 It is so eye-opening.
0:03:53 Like I said, we don’t talk about these topics a lot on the podcast, but they are certainly
0:03:58 important for us to understand as entrepreneurs and just as regular people who want to live
0:04:01 a great life in America, because I certainly do.
0:04:05 Dr. Jill Stein, welcome to Young and Profiting Podcast.
0:04:06 Thank you so much.
0:04:08 Really great to be here.
0:04:10 I’m so excited for this episode.
0:04:13 I’ve never had a presidential candidate on this show before.
0:04:14 We’re a business show.
0:04:21 We don’t really talk politics, but our democracy and our presidential candidate has so much
0:04:26 to do with our success as entrepreneurs and small business owners.
0:04:31 I can’t wait to talk to you about how it impacts us as entrepreneurs and just as people in
0:04:32 general.
0:04:35 I just want to shed some foundation and context from my listeners.
0:04:38 It’s July 23, 2024.
0:04:43 A few days ago, Biden just announced that he’s dropping out of the race and he’s endorsing
0:04:46 Kamala Harris to take the nomination.
0:04:48 I believe that this doesn’t change much.
0:04:51 Just the new figurehead, same policies.
0:04:55 I believe that a lot of people right now are feeling like they’ve just got to choose between
0:04:56 two lesser evils.
0:05:02 So, why don’t we start here, talk to us about why America is not really a democracy right
0:05:05 now and what’s wrong with this two-party system?
0:05:09 What’s wrong with this two-party system is everything that we’re seeing in our lives
0:05:15 as people, especially young people who are basically the latest victim of this predatory
0:05:21 economy, which is always looking for its latest cash cow, and that’s kind of what the younger
0:05:22 generation is.
0:05:29 It’s a generation that’s being exploited, exploited in the lack of decent jobs, in the
0:05:34 complete lack of healthcare options, the lack of housing, the lack of transportation, the
0:05:41 lack of a future by way of a climate we can survive in, disastrous food, health statistics
0:05:43 are absolutely going down the tubes.
0:05:48 We’re seeing rising cancer rates dramatically in young people right now at the same time.
0:05:53 We do not have a healthcare system, but all else aside, we shouldn’t be inflicting cancer
0:05:56 and other chronic illnesses on young people to start with.
0:06:01 It’s like young people are the ultimate punching bag right now in this predatory economy and
0:06:08 it’s so outrageous as someone who’s been an observer and really an activist for many
0:06:10 generations now.
0:06:15 I go way back really to the Vietnam War when I was in high school and fighting that and
0:06:21 then learning over the years about how we essentially have a war economy.
0:06:27 It’s been a longstanding economy for empire and oligarchy and young people and people
0:06:33 of color and marginalized communities are really the victims.
0:06:37 This is all coming to a real crisis right now.
0:06:40 People have all-out crisis in their everyday lives and we’ve had this crisis, whether it’s
0:06:45 been Democrats holding all three branches of government, the White House and both houses
0:06:49 of Congress or Republicans, they’re all marching to the right.
0:06:51 We see the rich getting richer.
0:06:56 We see three billionaires now having the wealth of the lower half of the economy altogether
0:07:01 and the Democrats used to be called the lesser evil, but now they are the ones under Joe
0:07:03 Biden, but not just Biden.
0:07:08 It’s really almost all of them with very few exceptions who’ve been leading the charge
0:07:15 now on genocide, on war that’s really hot wars in two areas around the world and heading
0:07:18 for a third with China, heading towards nuclear conflict.
0:07:25 This is all exploding and it’s off the radar, so to speak, because people were pretty riveted
0:07:30 with the genocide, which should be front and center, but now there’s all this chaos in
0:07:35 our elections between the near assassination of Donald Trump, which is just a reflection
0:07:41 of how violence racks our entire society and just because you’re in the upper echelons
0:07:43 doesn’t mean you’re going to be protected from it.
0:07:49 There was that really horrific thing and then all the chaos with Joe Biden basically having
0:07:55 been protected for years that he’s been in cognitive decline, but certainly for the last
0:08:01 one to two years, there’ve been basically circles around him to protect him and to prevent
0:08:06 any debates whatsoever from happening in the democratic primary to prevent any real primary
0:08:08 from happening at all.
0:08:13 This exploded in a real crisis that is not over yet because there’s going to be contention
0:08:19 within the democratic party about whether there will be an open convention or not.
0:08:23 They’re trying to circle the wagons around Kamala Harris, but let’s remember she’s been
0:08:27 there along at Joe Biden’s side with all of the policies.
0:08:31 There was one promise that Joe Biden fulfilled, and that was that nothing will change.
0:08:36 He promised that to Wall Street that nothing will change, and that is true if anything billionaires
0:08:42 have gotten markedly richer over the course of the last several years and how the COVID
0:08:44 crisis was handled.
0:08:51 It was handled in a way that devastated small businesses, devastated communities of color,
0:08:56 and before that you had the Wall Street meltdown, which was really designed by the democratic
0:09:02 party was brought to us by Democrats under Clinton and policies that they reversed under
0:09:03 Clinton.
0:09:09 Then Barack Obama appointed Larry Summers to head his Treasury Department, Larry Summers,
0:09:14 who oversaw the rollback of these protections that had come out of the prior depression.
0:09:20 That was reversed under Democrats, and then he was appointed under Obama, and they proceeded
0:09:25 to bail out Wall Street and throw out seven or eight million homeowners.
0:09:31 That’s why the Democrats really got severely punished, and you began to see everyday working
0:09:37 people embrace Trumpism and Republicanism, not because they liked it, but because they
0:09:41 were so furious at betrayal by the Democrats.
0:09:45 That’s where we’re left right now with two greater evil parties, as far as I’m concerned.
0:09:49 We need to forget the lesser evil and fight for the greater good.
0:09:52 The Greens are standing up for exactly that.
0:09:56 I can’t wait to know all the issues that you stand for in the way that you want to change
0:09:57 America.
0:10:01 But first, let’s talk about the fact that there’s not many people that actually identify
0:10:04 as Republican or Democrat, right?
0:10:08 It’s just a little bit of where 50% of people are either Democrats or Republican, and then
0:10:12 there’s 50% of us that want another solution.
0:10:15 What is the other solution to Republican or Democrat?
0:10:16 Yes.
0:10:22 Let me add to that that it’s about 50% who do not identify as either Democrat or Republican.
0:10:26 But polls actually show that it’s more than that.
0:10:29 It’s almost two-thirds that say they want another choice.
0:10:34 They want another independent political party because the two that we’ve got, which are
0:10:38 bought and paid for basically by Wall Street and the War Machine, they’ve done such an
0:10:41 awful job of serving everyday people.
0:10:47 So yes, absolutely, Greens are the alternative that is of buying for the people.
0:10:53 We don’t take the corrupting money that the other parties live on.
0:10:55 So we don’t take corporate money.
0:10:59 We don’t take large contributions actually from anybody.
0:11:02 We do not work with super PACs.
0:11:04 We don’t accept money from corporate PACs.
0:11:06 We don’t take dark money.
0:11:11 We don’t use any of these loopholes like victory funds and things like that that you probably
0:11:12 haven’t heard of.
0:11:16 But now victory funds will allow a single donor to write a check for over a million
0:11:17 dollars.
0:11:22 So with one pop, one person has huge influence.
0:11:27 And money comes with strings attached, even though they’re not explicit, even if it’s
0:11:32 not a quid pro quo, it’s human not to bite the hand that feeds you.
0:11:38 And if you have hands that are feeding you, that are showering you in cash, it’s very
0:11:43 hard not to want to please them and to pay them back.
0:11:45 That’s just human nature.
0:11:47 It’s human nature to be corruptible.
0:11:51 That’s why we need protections built into the system.
0:11:54 And so Greens don’t take the money.
0:12:00 We want a system that also refuses that money that instead provides public financing for
0:12:02 candidates who qualify.
0:12:08 And you have to show that you actually are a real force, that you have public support,
0:12:13 that you are truly a candidate, and there are many ways that that can be shown.
0:12:16 In my home state, in Massachusetts, we adopted such a system.
0:12:17 It has a name.
0:12:21 It’s called Clean Elections, because it lets you set that dirty money aside, the money
0:12:23 that comes with strings attached.
0:12:30 Clean Elections, and we had to qualify for it by collecting a lot of very small contributions,
0:12:31 like $5 contributions.
0:12:32 I forget what the number was.
0:12:34 This was back in the year 2002.
0:12:38 Actually, it was even before that that we had passed it.
0:12:39 We had passed it in the later ’90s.
0:12:43 We passed it by a voter referendum, because, of course, in the legislatures, they don’t
0:12:48 want to touch it, because they want their cozy deals to keep going and the advantage
0:12:50 that they have getting big money.
0:12:52 So they don’t want to rock the boat here.
0:12:58 We passed it as a voter referendum, which is usually how it gets passed, by a huge margin,
0:13:03 by a two-to-one margin, the people in my home state passed Clean Elections, and we began
0:13:10 to use it, and then the legislature, our overwhelmingly progressive, so-called progressive
0:13:15 democratic legislature, repealed Clean Elections on a voice vote.
0:13:21 They basically threw it in the trash and prevented their competition from having a leg to stand
0:13:22 on.
0:13:26 The state of Maine has adopted it, and one or two others.
0:13:28 So this exists.
0:13:29 It’s tested.
0:13:33 It works really well, but it’s the alternative that the powers that we do not want to talk
0:13:38 about, but that is the most critical thing, and there are other reforms that must go along
0:13:44 with it, because there is no silver bullet to restore democracy, but there are critical
0:13:49 things that need to be done, and that is, I think, the very most critical.
0:13:56 We have a tiny public financing system here at the national level, and you have to qualify
0:14:00 for it, which we did, and then they decided they weren’t going to give us the money.
0:14:06 They owe us almost $300,000, which we’ve been using to get on the ballot, and they’re basically
0:14:11 hijacking our ballot drive here by holding that money, and I want to encourage anybody,
0:14:16 whatever you can throw into the pot, if you want a democracy here, if you want the only
0:14:24 anti-genocide, anti-war, pro-worker, pro-small business campaign out there, we’re already
0:14:29 on the ballot for a majority of voters, but we need to be on the ballot for all voters
0:14:34 to really be taken seriously and to truly contest for power, and we can talk more about
0:14:36 that, but that can really happen in this election.
0:14:38 We need to be on the ballot.
0:14:40 They’re holding up our public funding right now.
0:14:46 By getting on the ballot, we make it really clear we’re not just a token campaign, we’re
0:14:47 not a symbolic campaign.
0:14:55 We are truly challenging empire and oligarchy and this corporate dominated economy that
0:15:01 shuts out everyday communities and small businesses and worker cooperatives and the things that
0:15:04 we need for a really vibrant economy.
0:15:10 This is all tied together, and we need public funding now, and we need a real choice of
0:15:12 candidates on the ballot.
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0:20:07 Okay, so there’s some things that I want to just dive deeper on about what you just
0:20:08 said.
0:20:12 So, first of all, let’s talk about how we have the best democracy that money can buy.
0:20:13 Okay?
0:20:15 It’s something that I hear you say all the time, right?
0:20:17 Best democracy that money can buy.
0:20:19 You mentioned super PACs.
0:20:20 You mentioned company PACs.
0:20:23 We’ve got A-PAC, of course.
0:20:25 And we’ve got the one percenters, right?
0:20:30 The billionaires who like you just mentioned are allowed to just donate huge amounts of
0:20:31 money.
0:20:35 Even just one person can have this incredible impact on policy.
0:20:37 So talk to us about that.
0:20:40 Break that down for us because a lot of the people listening are not really following
0:20:41 politics.
0:20:45 They’re probably in that 50% that don’t identify with anything and just don’t know what to
0:20:50 do to make the country a better place for them as entrepreneurs and just people.
0:20:57 Money buys influence and in our economy, money is so concentrated in the top in powerful
0:21:02 corporations and billionaires and the financial industries.
0:21:07 We have a financialized economy also, which takes the economy out of the hands of our
0:21:09 communities and our small businesses.
0:21:14 It’s all run at this very high level where you can’t even understand what’s going on,
0:21:16 let alone have a role in it.
0:21:20 I mean, this is why we need a government that’s working for us.
0:21:27 But when it’s paid for, when the campaigns are paid for by powerful donors who are representing
0:21:32 powerful special interests, whether it’s big tech, whether it’s the health insurance
0:21:38 industry, the war contractors, A-PAC, groups that have a special interest like A-PAC is
0:21:47 spending $100 million in this election to basically buy out candidates that stand up
0:21:53 against genocide, that stand up for human rights and for Palestinian rights.
0:21:54 Many of them are defeated.
0:21:55 Not all of them.
0:21:58 Summer Lee was not defeated.
0:22:04 But most of the time A-PAC gets its way because it buys its way.
0:22:06 That’s a really compelling illustration.
0:22:08 Here’s another illustration.
0:22:13 Donald Trump got together with the fossil fuel industry and he basically said to the
0:22:19 executives, give me a billion dollars and then let’s talk about what you need.
0:22:20 Basically offering a quid pro quo.
0:22:25 You give me the money and your money will buy you the policies that you want.
0:22:27 That means that we get more of what we’ve been getting.
0:22:33 There’s a famous study by two authors called Gillens and Page, and this was done about
0:22:36 12 years ago, but nothing has changed here.
0:22:42 They looked at what policies are passed by Congress, what things get passed, say like
0:22:43 the Affordable Care Act.
0:22:49 When what people really wanted was health insurance as a human right for everyone in
0:22:54 a very cost effective way that saves businesses, especially small businesses, from this horrible
0:23:00 burden of having to carry the weight of health care, providing health care.
0:23:06 It’s enough to crush any and every small business and even not such small businesses, but the
0:23:11 thing is this healthcare system that we have wastes one out of every $3.
0:23:17 The overhead is 33% because there’s all this duplication and tracking.
0:23:22 The problem is one out of every $3 is not going for healthcare within the system.
0:23:27 When every $3 is spent tracking, did you have a Band-Aid put on at the hospital?
0:23:29 What kind of Band-Aid was it?
0:23:31 How much did that Band-Aid cost?
0:23:35 Which out of 1,000 health insurance plans do you have and does your health insurance
0:23:40 plan cover Band-Aids and does it cover that kind of a Band-Aid?
0:23:46 This is where our money is going in healthcare and countries like Canada and most developed
0:23:51 nations around the world, they’ve just simplified the insurance so that there’s just one insurer
0:23:53 like in Medicare.
0:23:57 Medicare unfortunately is being privatized, so there are a lot of holes being knocked
0:24:03 in Medicare, but before it was privatized, it was just one simple quasi-governmental insurer.
0:24:07 Same healthcare system, in fact it’s a better healthcare system because it allows you to
0:24:11 actually choose your provider instead of what we have right now, which are these very narrow
0:24:15 networks that tell you who you can go to and they may change your provider and they tell
0:24:19 you which hospital you can go to and you get hit really hard if you go outside of their
0:24:20 narrow networks.
0:24:24 Well, under a Medicare for all plan, you’re covered everywhere.
0:24:30 Your healthcare is your choice and it’s between you and your healthcare provider and it cuts
0:24:37 the cost because of all this waste and so then we get to a system where you get to have
0:24:43 complete coverage, so it’s like your dental care, it’s your eyeglasses, your contacts,
0:24:47 you’re hearing aid, your mental health, your reproductive health, everything, your chronic
0:24:48 care.
0:24:51 If your parents are sick and they need to be at home, well guess what?
0:24:52 That’s covered.
0:24:55 No, it’s not at all, you have to go into poverty for that.
0:25:00 Everything is covered, so we can expand healthcare to cover everyone and to make coverage complete.
0:25:05 You don’t have to have a job, you can afford to say, “Oh, this job is terrible, I don’t
0:25:09 have to keep it because I’m desperate,” you can actually change jobs and it takes the
0:25:13 burden off of small businesses that no longer have to provide healthcare, so it does all
0:25:19 of that and it saves us over half a trillion dollars a year because of the waste that gets
0:25:20 cut out.
0:25:26 And these are the kinds of policies that we can stand up for as greens because we don’t
0:25:29 take the big money, we are not bride.
0:25:35 The health insurance industry and big pharma, when this was being decided, when the Affordable
0:25:41 Care Act was being created, those industries poured money through lobbyists and through
0:25:48 campaign contributions to basically remove the Medicare for All system as a contender
0:25:52 and they promised, “Oh, we’ll have a public option,” but they’ve never fulfilled that
0:25:57 promise and the public option will not be an affordable option because it doesn’t have
0:25:59 the economy of scale.
0:26:06 So this is another example of how money talks and what these guys who did this study, Gillens
0:26:13 and Page, found was that there is a zero relationship between what the public wants and what the
0:26:19 public needs and what Congress actually passes because that agenda is determined by big money.
0:26:25 So how we get the money out and get the people back in to our political system, above all,
0:26:29 it’s through bringing back public financing.
0:26:33 So like I mentioned, I feel like a lot of my listeners aren’t very political.
0:26:35 They might not know what APAC even is.
0:26:40 So APAC, I guess you could describe it as the Israel lobby, right?
0:26:48 Can you talk about what kind of benefits Israelis enjoy compared to Americans and why we basically
0:26:53 have Israel’s best interest at heart instead of America’s best interest at heart in a lot
0:26:54 of our policies?
0:27:02 The US is providing almost $4 billion a year, largely for the military budget for Israel,
0:27:08 but because then Israel doesn’t have to provide its own budget and also doesn’t have to develop
0:27:12 relationships with its neighbors, it can be abusive of its neighbors because it has the
0:27:20 empire behind it and all this money and the force of the US military and all the US weapons.
0:27:27 But we’re basically providing almost $4 billion a year for Israel so that Israel in turn can
0:27:33 provide health care for everyone, at least for Jewish Israelis.
0:27:38 And now Israel is basically passed policies so that if you are not Jewish, I mean, it’s
0:27:44 a very explicit ethno-nationalist state, it’s a religious state, and you now have to be
0:27:50 Jewish to qualify for most benefits in Israel.
0:27:56 And it’s widely known that Israel is an apartheid state, and people from South Africa will tell
0:28:02 you that it’s actually a much more vicious apartheid state than even South Africa was.
0:28:07 But part of that is that there are all these benefits that are given to full citizens who
0:28:12 must be Jewish, and that includes health care.
0:28:15 It also includes housing for a lot of people.
0:28:18 It also includes education.
0:28:27 So they’re living in a sort of democratic socialist society if you happen to be of the correct
0:28:30 ethnic and religious background, which is horrible.
0:28:35 I mean, that’s virtually a fascist state that Israel has become.
0:28:41 So our latest package was something like $24 billion for Israel.
0:28:43 And most of that was military, not all of it.
0:28:50 But we’re providing $24 billion, yet we could not extend the most important thing that was
0:28:55 done in the last four years, which was the child tax deduction, the child tax credit,
0:29:01 that cut poverty levels for children in this country by 50 percent.
0:29:08 Our government wouldn’t do that because we were too busy basically funding genocide against
0:29:16 babies in Palestine and providing a really secure and beneficial way of life for the
0:29:17 people of Israel.
0:29:20 So this is not okay.
0:29:25 We need to ensure that there is peace and security for everybody in the region, and that means
0:29:29 for Palestine as well.
0:29:33 This brings us back to something that you were saying earlier that we have a war economy.
0:29:38 I don’t know what you called it, a war democracy or something like that.
0:29:43 Can you talk to us about how politicians supporting war actually helps politicians be corrupted
0:29:47 and make money off the war machine?
0:29:53 Let me also include one other really important piece of background here, which is that half
0:29:58 of our congressional budget is spent on the war machine, half of it.
0:30:06 So this is like a trillion dollars a year that is spent just on the war machine and
0:30:08 subsidies and so on.
0:30:12 So this is huge and that impoverishes us here.
0:30:18 So there’s a direct connection between this massive war machine and the fact that we
0:30:25 don’t have adequate healthcare and housing and education and coping with the climate
0:30:26 crisis.
0:30:31 We don’t have that in this country because we’re too busy funding war.
0:30:38 And so when we fund war, about half of that money is going to the war corporations, the
0:30:39 military industrial complex.
0:30:45 That’s about half of our expenditures are going directly into corporations whose profits
0:30:53 have just skyrocketed since this era of the war in Ukraine and the war on Gaza.
0:31:00 So this is a massive military machine which costs us, benefits the war contractors and
0:31:06 they in turn are donating to the political campaigns of the politicians who do their
0:31:07 bidding.
0:31:10 Sometimes it’s called like a self-licking ice cream cone.
0:31:15 The benefits just make the problem worse and it becomes this vicious cycle.
0:31:21 We were warned about this by President Dwight Eisenhower back in the 1950s that we were
0:31:26 basically creating this military industrial complex that would take on a life of its own
0:31:34 where the corporations that benefit, that profit are now linked to the politicians and
0:31:38 make their campaigns strong because they give them a lot of money.
0:31:44 So the politicians in turn are rewarding the war machine and around it goes.
0:31:48 So we have to break this cycle and it’s not hard to do that.
0:31:54 It’s not hard to do that because the American people are outraged about this genocide.
0:32:01 Most Americans don’t even know that the cost of this war in the last year has actually
0:32:10 been $12,000 per household is the average cost and it’s been $55,000 since the first
0:32:16 9/11 wars began with the invasion of Afghanistan and then Iraq.
0:32:22 It amounts to about $55,000 per household that we have spent over the course of the
0:32:23 past two decades.
0:32:25 So it’s absolutely staggering.
0:32:31 This is impoverishing us as well as endangering the whole world by this race towards a World
0:32:32 War III.
0:32:35 So scary and I know that we can change this.
0:32:40 So I want to take a moment and help people understand what can we do as people who can
0:32:46 vote, who can use our voting rights, how do we get the Green Party on the ballot?
0:32:49 Do we need to sign up to be a part of the Green Party?
0:32:50 What do we actually have to do?
0:32:51 What are the steps?
0:32:55 For starters, you don’t have to think about parties at this point.
0:33:01 You can just think about what campaign is speaking for you because you can vote regardless
0:33:03 of party.
0:33:08 Parties only matter if you’re voting in a primary, but the primary voting is largely
0:33:09 over.
0:33:17 Now it’s about getting a candidate that represents you that can truly contest for power, not
0:33:24 just a symbolic campaign, but a campaign that can actually challenge empire and oligarchy
0:33:26 and genocide.
0:33:33 Our campaign is the only campaign which is anti-war, pro-working people, pro-small business,
0:33:40 pro-climate emergency action. We are the only such campaign that’s already on the ballot
0:33:42 for a majority of voters.
0:33:46 So there are some other campaigns with a very similar agenda.
0:33:52 Claudia De La Cruz with the party of socialism and labor, Cornell West, who’s running as
0:33:55 an independent, we have very similar agendas.
0:34:00 But we are the only campaign that is already on the ballot for a majority of voters, has
0:34:04 a pathway to be on the ballot for all voters.
0:34:09 So we actually are challenging empire, we’ve done this before, we know how to do it, we’ve
0:34:15 been ahead of the curve and the curve has caught up to us on militarism, on the climate,
0:34:17 on healthcare, you name it.
0:34:22 So we encourage you to go to our website and you can do everything you need to do from
0:34:23 there.
0:34:26 The website is jillstein2024.com.
0:34:31 Go to the website, you can sign up to get the newsletter for one thing, you can make
0:34:36 a contribution if you’re able to throw something into the hat and contributions of any size
0:34:39 are just absolutely a game changer.
0:34:45 And then you can go to the ballot access drop down up on the right at the top, click on
0:34:51 ballot access and you’ll see a map, you can go to your state and find out, do you already
0:34:52 have a choice?
0:34:55 Are we already on the ballot in your state or do you have a ballot drive that’s going
0:34:57 on right now?
0:35:03 And you’ll see and if you have a ballot drive going on now, then you just get the contact
0:35:09 person from that little box that pops up and let them know that you’d like to help.
0:35:14 And it may be carrying a petition, which is simple to do, it’s basically like talking
0:35:18 to your friends and neighbors and saying, do you want a sign to get another choice on
0:35:19 the ballot?
0:35:23 Do you want a sign to get an anti genocide choice on the ballot?
0:35:28 Do you want a sign to get affordable housing on the ballot or healthcare as a human right?
0:35:34 You know, whatever resonates in your community, ask people if they want that and overwhelmingly
0:35:37 people will sign.
0:35:40 And we also provide support about how to do it.
0:35:44 Most of the petitions are right there on the website, so you can just download them as
0:35:46 well as instructions and a video.
0:35:52 It’s pretty straightforward common sense, they put their full name, they put their address
0:35:56 and they may or may not need to say what town they’re in and so on.
0:36:01 And so there are a few rules like that for collecting signatures, but it’s very common
0:36:05 sense, it’s not rocket science and there’s a lot of help to get it done.
0:36:13 That and making a contribution, if you can’t collect or you could do both, they’re both
0:36:15 just totally game changers.
0:36:21 And that’s how we get on the ballot and force the issue because if the American people have
0:36:26 a voice in this, we overwhelmingly want to cut the military budget.
0:36:30 People want to have healthcare and housing and quality schools and all that.
0:36:36 So we are the agenda of everyday people who are being thrown under the bus.
0:36:39 We are about bailing out students and canceling student debt.
0:36:42 We are about free public higher education.
0:36:43 It should be free.
0:36:46 Back in my day, it was free and it should continue to be free.
0:36:50 So we’re about all the things that people are really screaming for.
0:36:55 We’re actually doing it, we have a program to get it done and it’s all about our forcing
0:37:02 our way into this conversation because the political elites want to shut down this conversation.
0:37:08 They do not want to have people who are actually meeting the needs that people are screaming
0:37:09 about out there.
0:37:14 The Democrats are really quaking in their boots that people should find out that they
0:37:18 actually have an option like us that will meet their needs.
0:37:19 It’s so true.
0:37:24 I feel like they try to like hide the green party from everyone and they try to guilt
0:37:27 everyone saying that if you vote for green party, you’re voting for Trump.
0:37:28 But that’s not true at all.
0:37:31 I’m going to do everything in my power to get the word out.
0:37:33 We’ll put all these links in the show notes.
0:37:35 I’m one of the biggest influencers on LinkedIn.
0:37:40 I’m going to post about it all the time and try to get people to help get you on the ballot
0:37:41 in their state.
0:37:45 If you’re not to vote for you to spread the message and I’m just going to help anyway
0:37:46 that I can.
0:37:50 I’m Palestinian and 100% Palestinian.
0:37:56 For me, the fact that you are anti-genocide, you’re the only anti-genocide choice and then
0:38:02 on top of that, you care about things like climate change and a livable wage and protecting
0:38:07 small business even and I’d love to go into some of your other issues and maybe we can
0:38:11 circle back to Israel if we have time because I do think it’s a huge issue that people need
0:38:14 to know about.
0:38:15 This is an entrepreneurship show.
0:38:19 I’ve got a lot of people in their 20s and 30s listening.
0:38:24 What do they need to know about the economy and where it’s headed right now?
0:38:27 Some of the things that you hope to do if you were to be president to help change our
0:38:32 economy and make it better for young people, especially millennials, Gen Z.
0:38:36 We have an economy that’s working for the economic elites.
0:38:38 It’s working for big investors.
0:38:40 The stock market is still off the charts.
0:38:47 It may be precarious, but for now, everybody’s living it up and there are many long-term
0:38:52 threats to the U.S. economy, including the national debt, but also including the status
0:38:54 of the dollar as international currency.
0:38:58 There are all these threats that need to be dealt with on many levels and we don’t do
0:39:03 ourselves any favor by being at war with the rest of the world, suffice it to say.
0:39:07 We need to repair our international relations if we want to have an economy in the future
0:39:09 as well.
0:39:13 Looking at stuff closer to home, we need to have an economy that works for everyday people
0:39:17 and we need to have small businesses, which are really the backbone of our economy and
0:39:22 small businesses have been crushed over the last one to two decades.
0:39:27 Small businesses are a smaller and smaller piece of our economy, yet this is where the
0:39:33 creativity and the energy and the dynamism of the economy is.
0:39:35 So we have to bring back small businesses.
0:39:40 We have to make loans and support available to small businesses and we have to get the
0:39:45 burden of healthcare off the back of small businesses.
0:39:50 People need healthcare, but that shouldn’t be on the backs of small businesses at the
0:39:54 outrageous cost that healthcare costs us nowadays.
0:39:58 So we will take healthcare entirely out of the picture here.
0:40:03 This should be provided and we’re saving half a trillion dollars while we provide quality
0:40:04 healthcare for everyone.
0:40:05 So that’s a win-win.
0:40:13 We also need to provide affordable housing because right now up to half of all Americans
0:40:22 are really precarious in their housing right now and are paying up to 50% of their monthly
0:40:25 income to keep a roof over their heads for their rent or their mortgage.
0:40:31 You know, young people can’t afford mortgages now and the housing stock has been bought
0:40:36 up basically by the private equity firms, by the big investors, who are now gobbling
0:40:38 up all the housing.
0:40:42 So you get inflation, especially in housing, which has been off the charts.
0:40:48 You get inflation when you have more money and fewer things to buy.
0:40:50 That’s the general recipe.
0:40:54 Yes, that is the recipe, I think, that’s the recipe for inflation.
0:40:59 So there are many ways to work with that, but you don’t want to work with that by cutting
0:41:02 jobs and forcing unemployment.
0:41:04 We need our small businesses to be employing people.
0:41:10 We need for workers, especially in larger companies, to be getting good, solid living
0:41:13 wages so they can afford to be the pump.
0:41:19 The pump for our economy is consumer expenditures, so consumers need to have enough money, which
0:41:23 is why we need a true living wage as the minimum wage.
0:41:28 Now there may be some requirements for the size of the businesses there to have that
0:41:34 applied, but working people need not only healthcare, working people need good wages,
0:41:40 and to survive throughout most of the country, you need at least a $20 an hour minimum wage.
0:41:44 So by doing all those things, we help revive the economy.
0:41:48 Our Green New Deal will also help revive the economy, because the Green New Deal means
0:41:54 we basically declare that there is a climate emergency, which is one of the major reasons
0:41:56 for hopelessness among young people.
0:42:02 Half of young people describe themselves as hopeless in polls, and a lot of that is because
0:42:06 people really feel like they’ve been abandoned on student debt and all the rest, but also
0:42:08 on the climate and the climate future.
0:42:13 So the Green New Deal gets rid of that hopelessness, because we jump in full bore.
0:42:17 Number one, we say this is an emergency, and the core driver of the climate crisis is
0:42:18 fossil fuels.
0:42:22 So while the Democrats, they give lip service to our plans, they don’t actually do what
0:42:27 it takes, so they do not have a plan for phasing out fossil fuels, they just want to create
0:42:28 more renewables.
0:42:32 And that’s great, but nature doesn’t care about that, and the climate doesn’t care about
0:42:33 that.
0:42:35 That doesn’t do squat for addressing the problem.
0:42:42 We’re still going to have rapidly escalating heat waves, drought, rising sea levels, storms.
0:42:43 You name it.
0:42:47 All the things that people are taking on the chin right now are going to keep happening
0:42:51 under the Democrats’ plan, just like the Republicans’ plan, because the Democrats,
0:42:57 under both Obama and under Biden, the US fossil fuels have skyrocketed, and we’ve become the
0:42:59 major producer of fossil fuels.
0:43:05 So let’s be the major producer of renewables, and we can do that at a community level as
0:43:06 well.
0:43:10 There are all sorts of small businesses that are badly needed to create this transition
0:43:12 at the community level.
0:43:19 So that’s things like renovating our housing and making it energy efficient and very low
0:43:22 energy and have all the principles of conservation.
0:43:26 So there’s lots of housing rehab as well as housing to be built.
0:43:29 There’s also a lot of transportation work to be done.
0:43:31 We need local, sustainable transportation.
0:43:36 We need muscle-powered transit, and we need communities that are really built around preserving
0:43:37 open space.
0:43:43 And if we’re building housing, which is linked with public transportation and it’s built
0:43:47 in an environmentally sound way, we’re not gobbling up our open space.
0:43:51 We’re protecting our open space because green space is actually really important to our
0:43:56 health, let alone to the health of our water system and all the rest.
0:44:01 Part of the Green New Deal is also farming and bringing back small farming and the farming
0:44:08 economy and the community farming economy and all that, which happens at a small scale,
0:44:14 which is coordinated, but it needs lots of small producers and providers and distributors
0:44:15 and all that.
0:44:22 So the Green New Deal is also a boon for small businesses and for reviving our economy.
0:44:25 And then the housing piece, I think we’ve addressed as part of that.
0:44:31 But those are really the fundamentals here of creating an economy, which is again becomes
0:44:32 a productive economy.
0:44:34 Right now it’s a financialized economy.
0:44:40 So it’s all in the hands of Wall Street and big real estate and industries like that,
0:44:42 which are not small businesses.
0:44:44 They’re very oppressive to small businesses.
0:44:49 We’ll be right back after a quick break from our sponsors.
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0:49:49 Yeah, it’s so important what you’re saying because you mentioned, you have a quote where
0:49:54 you say that climate change is even a bigger threat to us than World War III.
0:49:59 A lot of us are worried about war, but we’ve got this whole other thing that’s going on
0:50:02 that basically our politicians are doing nothing about.
0:50:07 And in fact, they’re funding war, which creates so much pollution, which makes the climate
0:50:08 issue even worse.
0:50:10 So it’s just so ridiculous.
0:50:16 We just live in a country where it seems like their priority is just war and staying in
0:50:19 power and getting the money back from the war machine.
0:50:26 And then all the regular citizens, our lives are sort of deteriorating here in America.
0:50:28 In a big way, really fast.
0:50:33 And I don’t know if I mentioned this before, but as part of that same poll that shows half
0:50:39 of people under 25 are hopeless about the future, one quarter of young people have contemplated
0:50:43 harming themselves within two weeks of the poll.
0:50:48 Youngs are that dire for young people, and they certainly are because young people have
0:50:55 been exploited at every turn in this predatory economy that’s serving the very rich and making
0:51:00 billionaires and large corporations richer all the time, while for everyday people it’s
0:51:03 such a struggle just to get through a day.
0:51:04 And it doesn’t have to be that way.
0:51:06 We have the resources.
0:51:12 What we don’t have is the economy and the democracy that will create the economy and
0:51:18 all the other critical pieces of an infrastructure for a world that’s actually working for us.
0:51:23 And just to emphasize how much this really is within our reach, I want to share one other
0:51:29 little factoid with you, and that is that we have three candidates who are pro-genocide,
0:51:34 pro-war, anti-everyday people, anti-working people in small businesses.
0:51:40 That’s RFK and formerly Biden, but now Kamala Harris, it looks like, and Donald Trump.
0:51:45 So they will effectively be splitting the pro-war pro-genocide vote.
0:51:48 They’re all pretty substantial campaigns.
0:51:50 They are going to split that vote.
0:51:54 If we can break into the public dialogue, which is starting to happen, especially through
0:52:00 social media, through commentators like yourself, drivers like yourself, which are basically
0:52:05 liberating a right to a free press, or creating the free pass that we otherwise don’t have.
0:52:09 But getting the word out, we can break into this conversation.
0:52:13 And also by getting on the ballot, we force the mainstream media to pay attention to us
0:52:18 because they use the fact that we’re not on everywhere to sideline us and to marginalize
0:52:19 us.
0:52:22 But once we’re on, in just about all states, they can’t do that.
0:52:28 So by pushing our ballot access, we then force our way into this conversation.
0:52:33 So where you have three campaigns splitting the pro-war pro-genocide vote, we become the
0:52:41 one and only anti-war, anti-genocide, pro-working people, pro-small business, pro-climate action.
0:52:44 We become the one unifying campaign.
0:52:49 So when you have four choices in a race, four people, four campaigns who are dividing the
0:52:54 vote, you can win that race with as little as 26 percent.
0:53:00 26 can dominate, and the others have either 25 or 24 percent, or some variation on that.
0:53:05 But one campaign can win with as little as 26 percent.
0:53:10 According to a poll released just yesterday, it said we were at 4 percent.
0:53:14 Now this is before we’ve had any coverage whatsoever.
0:53:18 We’ve had polls like in Wisconsin, for example, where we’ve had a little bit of coverage, where
0:53:25 we were running 22 percent, and it’s a range, it may be from 8 percent up to 22 percent among
0:53:28 people age 35 and under.
0:53:33 So where word starts to get out, and that’s mostly among young people who are always leading
0:53:39 the charge, who are always setting the trend, that’s where the change begins.
0:53:46 And by alerting young people that there is a campaign that is about you, that you can
0:53:52 take a selection by storm, 44 million people who are in student debt right now, knowing
0:53:58 that your student debt will be canceled, that alone, that 44 million alone is enough
0:54:02 to win this race, a four-way race.
0:54:09 So we really encourage people to reject this propaganda of powerlessness, this propaganda
0:54:15 that tells you there is no alternative, that you’re going down with the ship here.
0:54:17 No, that’s absolutely false.
0:54:19 We can be masters of our own fate here.
0:54:26 As Frederick Douglass said, the famous abolitionist, slavery abolitionist, what he said, this
0:54:30 famous quote you’ll hear all the time, “Power concedes nothing without a demand.
0:54:32 It never has and it never will.”
0:54:37 And he said this back in the days of fighting slavery, which was a very big institution
0:54:38 to fight.
0:54:42 He was really encouraging people that we have to be political.
0:54:44 We have to really challenge power.
0:54:50 You can’t do this by being the lesser evil, by allowing yourself to be veiled in what
0:54:51 you think might be the least worse.
0:54:56 No, we have to stand up for what it is that we actually want, need, and deserve.
0:55:03 The other quote is from the amazing author and poet, Alice Walker, also famous Palestinian
0:55:06 human rights advocate for a long time.
0:55:09 And what she said, this is paraphrasing her a little bit, but this is basically what
0:55:10 she said.
0:55:15 The biggest way people give up power is by not knowing we have it to start with.
0:55:17 And I just want to drive that home.
0:55:19 We have the power.
0:55:26 The minute we flick the switch in our own minds from being powerless to being powerful,
0:55:31 the minute we decide that we are going to act on the courage of our convictions and
0:55:38 on this moral imperative that we have in this day and age of genocide on our computer screens
0:55:40 and our iPhones.
0:55:44 The minute we decide to act, we have the numbers that we need.
0:55:49 Just from students fighting debt, from people who already opposed the genocide, just from
0:55:54 people who need housing to keep a roof over their heads, you start putting us together
0:55:57 and we are absolutely unstoppable.
0:56:02 And there are more to our plans in particular about how we get from here to there, but just
0:56:08 that is the general notion that it is our power that can take us to an actual victory
0:56:09 in this election.
0:56:12 So, Jill, I want to be respectful of your time.
0:56:14 I know that you don’t have that much more time with us.
0:56:18 I usually ask two questions at the end of my show, but I’m going to customize one of
0:56:20 the questions for today’s episode.
0:56:25 So I usually say, what is one actionable thing that our young and profiteers can do to become
0:56:26 more profitable tomorrow?
0:56:32 Today, I’m going to say, what is one action our young and profiteers can do to help put
0:56:35 you in power this upcoming year?
0:56:41 Oh, man, thank you for asking that because that really is the answer to being more profitable
0:56:46 is having a democracy that’s actually working for you.
0:56:49 Young people are the drivers of our economy and our society.
0:56:53 So we really do need to put you front and center, and that’s what our campaign has always
0:56:54 been about.
0:57:03 So for you to help us help you and empower you, go to Jillstein2024.com.
0:57:09 If you can make a contribution, throw something into the hat of any size whatsoever, sign up
0:57:16 to volunteer or to just be on our email list and join this team.
0:57:19 This team is of, by and for the people, and that means you.
0:57:23 And by joining this team, we become unstoppable together.
0:57:25 Jill, what is your Instagram?
0:57:27 How can people follow you on Instagram?
0:57:30 @drjillstein, @drjillstein.
0:57:34 OK, we’re going to put all those links in the show notes, guys.
0:57:38 Follow her on social media, share all her content to your stories.
0:57:39 Are you on TikTok, Jill?
0:57:40 Yes.
0:57:43 I’ll make sure my team puts all the correct social links on there, guys.
0:57:50 Follow Jill on social media, share her content, tell your co-workers about her, post about
0:57:53 it at school if you guys are still in college.
0:57:58 Just tell your whole networks about Jill and the Green Party and help educate people.
0:58:00 Join me along this journey.
0:58:03 I’m going to be talking a lot about it on social media and so on.
0:58:09 Jill, thank you so much for your time and for joining us on Young and Profiting Podcast.
0:58:10 Really great to be with you, Hala.
0:58:13 And I look forward to the next installment.
0:58:14 Thank you so very much.
0:58:15 Thank you.
0:58:23 Well, Young and Profiters, like I said, we don’t really tend to talk about politics on
0:58:28 the show, but politics can play a big part in our lives as entrepreneurs and small business
0:58:34 owners, and it’s sometimes unavoidable to avoid talking about politics.
0:58:39 And what better way to reflect on some of the issues in an election year than hearing
0:58:42 from an actual presidential candidate?
0:58:47 Whether you agree with Dr. Stein or not, I hope you found her views on the economy, young
0:58:52 people, world issues, and democracy thought-provoking.
0:58:56 Like she said, we have an economy that often doesn’t work well for small business owners
0:59:01 or entrepreneurs, regardless of the political party that’s in charge.
0:59:07 Money buys influence, and money is largely concentrated at the top in large corporations
0:59:10 and extremely wealthy individuals.
0:59:15 And these people have a lot more control over our nation than we think.
0:59:20 There’s often very little connection from what the American public wants and the bills
0:59:23 that Congress actually passes.
0:59:27 Just look at how much we spend as a nation on war, including funding the ongoing genocide
0:59:28 in Gaza.
0:59:33 We could be using that money for so many other things, including better health care, better
0:59:37 schooling, and investing in small businesses.
0:59:44 In our conversation, Dr. Stein also touched on the challenges faced by third-party candidates.
0:59:48 Despite these changes, she remains optimistic about the potential for change, and her campaign
0:59:52 is not just about winning an election, but about creating a movement that can bring about
0:59:54 systematic change.
0:59:58 She believes that young people are key to driving that change.
1:00:03 Whatever your political outlook, I hope this episode has inspired you to engage more deeply
1:00:06 with the issues that Dr. Stein has raised.
1:00:11 If you’d like to support Dr. Stein’s campaign or learn more about her platform, I’ll put
1:00:12 some links in the show notes.
1:00:17 Until next time, stay informed, stay engaged, and let’s do what we can to build a better
1:00:18 future for everyone.
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