Freakonomics Radio
For the 20th anniversary of Freakonomics, Debbie Millman of Design Matters interviews Stephen Dubner about his upbringing, his writing career, and why it’s important to “swing your swing.” Plus: a sneak peek at a new project.
- SOURCES:
- Debbie Millman, writer and host of Design Matters with Debbie Millman.
- RESOURCES:
- “Stephen J. Dubner,” by Design Matters with Debbie Millman (2025).
- Turbulent Souls: A Catholic Son’s Return To His Jewish Family, by Stephen Dubner (1999).
- “Choosing My Religion,” by Stephen Dubner (New York Times, 1996).
- EXTRAS:
- “In Search of the Real Adam Smith,” by Freakonomics Radio (2022).
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