How to build a $1M+ startup using AI (Full Tutorial)

0:00:03 All right, everyone, before we get into the episode, I have a quick announcement.
0:00:07 So if you’re hearing this, that means you’re listening on a podcasting app like Spotify.
0:00:12 And this episode will be a lot better if you go and watch it on YouTube.
0:00:15 And the reason being is we had our friend Greg Eisenberg on the pod.
0:00:22 And we asked him to use AI to come up with a business idea and implement it in only one hour.
0:00:27 And to put the pressure on, we actually had him screen share so we could see exactly what he was doing.
0:00:29 And it was mind blowing.
0:00:35 And so if you’re working out, if you’re on a run, if you’re on the train, and you’re listening to this via podcasting apps, it’s fine.
0:00:37 You can still listen and get a lot of value.
0:00:43 But if you can go to our YouTube page, my first million and watch this, and I think it’ll make a lot more sense.
0:00:45 All right, enjoy the episode.
0:00:48 I think I’m going to blow your mind today.
0:00:58 By the end of this episode, Sam, we’re going to see me replace a developer, a salesperson, a designer, a marketer, a researcher, a product manager.
0:00:59 With AI agents.
0:01:00 Okay, I’m in.
0:01:02 I feel like I can rule the world.
0:01:05 I know I could be what I want to.
0:01:08 I put my all in it like my days off.
0:01:10 On the road, let’s travel, never looking back.
0:01:13 Are you going to tailor this to someone like me who’s like a Neanderthal?
0:01:18 I’m going to tailor this to anyone who is an idea person.
0:01:33 So anyone who listens to your podcast, My First Million or my podcast, the Startup Ideas podcast, anyone who considers themselves an idea person, solopreneur, someone who wants a side hustle, someone who wants a business to make money and is interested in trends and ideas.
0:01:36 Okay, I’m into this, dude.
0:01:39 Okay, so we’re going to go through six steps.
0:01:42 The first is how to find the right idea and trend.
0:01:44 The second is sketching out the idea.
0:01:47 I’m going to talk about the tools I use.
0:01:50 I’m also going to give away all the workflows so people can just copy them.
0:01:53 We’re going to scope out the MVP using a tool called Manus.
0:01:56 We’re going to Vibe code prototype using Bolt.new.
0:01:59 We’re going to Vibe market the business and automate it using Lindy AI.
0:02:04 And then we’re going to use AI agent product manager using Idea Browser.
0:02:09 Because I’m above the age of 30, I feel a little uncomfortable using the word Vibe, but do we get a pass?
0:02:10 Can I say the V word?
0:02:12 You can say the V word.
0:02:13 I don’t know.
0:02:18 Yeah, for now, we can both say the V word, even though it’s cringe as hell.
0:02:19 All right, I’ll try it on.
0:02:21 Let’s get into it.
0:02:23 All right, so what’s the first step?
0:02:27 The first step is, I’m assuming you don’t have an idea.
0:02:28 Okay.
0:02:30 So let’s go find an idea.
0:02:36 So every single day, ideabrowser.com, this is actually, I created this for myself.
0:02:37 Okay.
0:02:42 So it basically uses, so every single day, a new idea comes with a trend.
0:02:47 So today’s idea is to create an AI SEO agency.
0:02:49 And it gives you a name, LLM Boost.
0:02:55 And it basically says that there’s 400 million people questioning ChatGPT, etc.
0:03:00 Someone should start an agency specializing in LLM, large language model, SEO.
0:03:06 Did your methodology give you this idea for ideabrowser.com?
0:03:07 100%.
0:03:09 This is basically productized, Greg.
0:03:12 And like, I basically, I run a holding company as my day job.
0:03:14 And we’re constantly incubating and investing in ideas.
0:03:21 So we basically said, how can we have an unfair advantage using AI to find the latest trends and ideas?
0:03:23 All right, I’m into this.
0:03:24 But there’s a twist.
0:03:33 So it says, we’re going to offer a free AI-powered audit quiz that instantly shows businesses where they rank in AI searches.
0:03:35 Most will be shocked they don’t exist.
0:03:38 And then we’re going to sell premium optimization services to fix it.
0:03:43 So for example, like Hampton, I don’t know how much of your traffic’s organic SEO.
0:03:45 Let’s say 1,000 people a day from search.
0:03:52 What people are noticing is that LLM search as a part of organic search is maybe now 5% or 10%.
0:03:54 Dude, we are just now getting people.
0:03:58 We have gotten a bunch of people who have signed up and they found us via chat GPT.
0:03:58 Right.
0:04:04 So it would be cool if Hampton, for example, would show up more often.
0:04:05 I agree.
0:04:08 So this is like a good idea, right?
0:04:11 And it gives you like an opportunity score, a problem score.
0:04:13 And this uses all AI agents.
0:04:16 And you can go in depth and stuff like that.
0:04:22 Like it tells you exactly what business model you should use, what your pricing should be,
0:04:24 what are, you know, competing customers.
0:04:27 It really does all the work for you.
0:04:30 You know, the go-to-market strategies, what is the target audience?
0:04:36 It actually scrapes and goes through Facebook groups, YouTube channels like this, Reddit.
0:04:42 And it basically, it’s almost like your AI co-founder in that sense.
0:04:48 One of the cool features is, let’s just say, you know, there’s a lot of ideas that are really good.
0:04:52 But Sam, for example, you might not be the best person to go after this idea.
0:04:57 So you can basically go through a founder fit score and say, I’m Sam.
0:04:59 I’m the founder of Hampton.
0:05:03 I specialize in community.
0:05:08 Is this a good idea for me?
0:05:15 And then it uses AI to basically generate an assessment to see if we should actually go and do this idea.
0:05:16 Okay.
0:05:17 This is awesome.
0:05:18 And do you have a bunch of people?
0:05:19 And this is a product too.
0:05:20 I didn’t, I just signed up for it.
0:05:22 Do you have a lot of customers for this?
0:05:24 I haven’t publicly posted about it.
0:05:25 Wow.
0:05:25 All right.
0:05:26 So this is awesome.
0:05:27 All right.
0:05:28 So it gave me a six and a half out of 10.
0:05:29 Yeah.
0:05:32 So it says your skill alignment is kind of, it’s actually kind of savage.
0:05:36 It’s because your skill alignment is four on 10, which I don’t disagree with.
0:05:37 I agree with.
0:05:38 Yeah.
0:05:42 So it just goes through this and it gives you some immediate actions to do what you should do.
0:05:43 Okay.
0:05:45 Maybe we should partner with an AI and SEO expert.
0:05:49 You know, maybe you should launch a community driven platform for client engagement.
0:05:52 Anyways, the point of this is.
0:05:53 Dude, this is awesome.
0:05:53 Yeah.
0:05:55 And there’s way, there’s way more you can do.
0:05:58 You can also, you know, it tells you exactly what your offer should be.
0:06:00 It gives you different frameworks.
0:06:04 Like Alex Hermosi has the value equation, which I really like.
0:06:06 Dude, this is going to be a huge product that you made.
0:06:07 This is really cool.
0:06:11 And it, and it, and it’s all, yeah, it’s special to this.
0:06:12 And it also has this AI assistant.
0:06:16 Like we can ask it like, you know, what are the key risks of the business?
0:06:19 And you can have a full on, it’s like chat GPT for ideas.
0:06:24 There is a feature and we can go to it maybe at the end if we have time.
0:06:24 Okay.
0:06:31 Where you upload your own idea and it generates a report based on all our, all the data of like
0:06:34 YouTube and Reddit and all of AI basically.
0:06:38 But step one is to use this website to get an idea.
0:06:39 That’s pretty awesome.
0:06:43 Step one is you want it, you want to, and you know this, you want to build an idea based on
0:06:44 a trend because it’s easier.
0:06:45 Yeah.
0:06:53 So look, find, you know, use something like idea browser.com to get an idea based on a trend
0:06:56 and then go.
0:06:59 Hey, really quick.
0:07:03 If you’re enjoying this episode, the team at HubSpot, they actually went and summarized
0:07:05 the entire thing.
0:07:07 And so it’s in a PDF that’s really easy to read.
0:07:08 So you can refer back to it.
0:07:11 All you have to do is click the link below, but this thing is awesome.
0:07:16 I just proofread it and it walks you through Greg’s entire five-step system from idea to
0:07:20 paying customers using nothing but free tools and AI prompts.
0:07:23 So you should go and check it out.
0:07:26 It’s a very easy summarization of this entire episode.
0:07:27 Again, the link is below.
0:07:28 All right, now back to the show.
0:07:31 Okay, so I think ideas are important.
0:07:35 I think that for a lot of people just starting out, ideas are unimportant because it’s just
0:07:37 like, just get into something and you’ll figure it out.
0:07:44 But I think that if you have a proven track record of like, I execute, so execution or going
0:07:46 forward is not a problem for me.
0:07:50 And then if you have that personality, ideas are actually incredibly important.
0:07:55 I talked to Kevin Ryan, who’s a, I believe he’s a billionaire, but he’s founded a MongoDB,
0:08:00 which is a 35 or $50 billion company, business insider, guilt group, Zola.
0:08:03 But he started all these amazing companies and he started it via his incubator.
0:08:06 And he told me that ideas are incredibly important.
0:08:10 And he was like, I get one good idea a year and I want to make sure it’s important and great
0:08:12 because I go hard on that idea.
0:08:14 And so I have to make sure that I’m going in the right direction.
0:08:19 And so I actually have grown to become a believer that ideas are actually really important.
0:08:20 It’s not just execution.
0:08:24 If you have a past of you move forward.
0:08:26 I think you’re right.
0:08:29 So that’s step one.
0:08:34 Step two is, okay, I kind of cheated in the sense that you do need a human being involved
0:08:34 in this process.
0:08:36 It’s not a hundred percent with AI.
0:08:39 So step two is you got to sketch out the idea.
0:08:44 So I use a tool, I’m not affiliated, by the way, with TLDraw.
0:08:47 Have you, TLDraw or TLD, have you seen this?
0:08:48 No, what is this?
0:08:51 Basically, I’m going to everything as you’re talking, I’m going to it.
0:08:52 Yeah.
0:08:54 Well, I wanted to give away like the stack.
0:08:55 I’m going to give away the stack that I use.
0:08:57 So basically, it’s kind of like a FigJam competitor.
0:08:58 I think it’s free to sign up.
0:09:04 And I just wanted to sketch out what this quiz would look like.
0:09:08 So because, you know, if you remember, the idea is we need to do two things.
0:09:11 We need to, people are going to land on this website.
0:09:14 It gave, Idea Browser gave us the name, LM Boost.
0:09:15 We need to learn about the business.
0:09:20 So for example, Hampton, you know, what’s the URL, what type of customers you want.
0:09:23 Then we need to do research with agents.
0:09:29 And then we need to check that, you know, is Hampton coming up in ChatGPT?
0:09:31 Is Hampton coming up in Claude?
0:09:32 Is Hampton coming up in Grok?
0:09:34 And then we need to give it a score.
0:09:35 So I just drew this out.
0:09:40 And the reason I drew this out is because I’ve noticed, and this is a tip for everyone listening.
0:09:47 I noticed that when you go to an LLM, I use, I’m using Manus, and I can talk about that.
0:09:51 And you give it an image like that, you’re going to get better results.
0:09:53 That’s crazy.
0:09:55 And how long did it take you to draw that out?
0:09:57 Like seven minutes.
0:09:59 I hate drawing on computers.
0:10:00 Yeah.
0:10:07 The beauty about TL Draw, though, I will say is like, it makes it for like bad drawers like you and I to just like make these boxes.
0:10:10 So it’s for us.
0:10:11 It’s for us.
0:10:12 Dig Jam is also really good.
0:10:14 Okay.
0:10:16 It’s tldraw.com.
0:10:16 Yep.
0:10:18 T-L-D-R-A-W dot com.
0:10:19 Exactly.
0:10:23 The next step is to scope out our minimal viable product, right?
0:10:27 So we need to figure out how we actually get to build this thing, right?
0:10:28 There’s so many question marks.
0:10:35 And instead of going to a product manager or instead of trying to figuring out the self, you and I are lazy, right?
0:10:38 We’re just going to go and get AI to do this whole thing for us.
0:10:41 So, Sam, have you ever heard of Manus?
0:10:41 No.
0:10:43 I’m on their website right now.
0:10:47 It says, Manus is a general AI agent that bridges minds and actions.
0:10:48 It doesn’t think.
0:10:49 It delivers results.
0:10:54 It excels at various tasks and work and life and getting everything done while you rest.
0:10:55 All right.
0:10:56 That sounds great to me.
0:10:57 Yeah.
0:11:04 So it’s very, you know, people might ask, like, how is this different than ChatGPT or Cloud or some of those?
0:11:08 And it’s almost like a ChatGPT supercharge.
0:11:10 So I’ll go through my prompts.
0:11:15 But basically, it’s almost like we’re watching, you know, if people are seeing.
0:11:18 It literally goes and searches the internet for you.
0:11:22 And based on that, like, learns stuff and then executes on the task.
0:11:25 So it’s like having 100 agents working for you.
0:11:29 But doesn’t OpenAI Research do this, too?
0:11:29 Yeah.
0:11:34 But not, like, first of all, I can watch it happen in real time and give it feedback, which is kind of cool.
0:11:37 Well, sorry, OpenAI has Operator, too, though.
0:11:37 Operator.
0:11:38 Yeah.
0:11:40 This is like a supercharged version of Operator.
0:11:42 So, wow, you think this is better than Operator?
0:11:46 I mean, I have to give a disclosure, which is it’s Chinese.
0:11:49 So, like, be careful.
0:11:54 I mean, I’m not, like, putting, you know, my financial data and uploading it.
0:11:54 Right.
0:12:02 So do they, like, put, like, P.S., like, capitalism is horrible and, like, you know, we’re going to come and dominate you eventually.
0:12:03 Totally.
0:12:10 It’s, you know, there’s a subtle nuance to that, for sure, in the vibe.
0:12:14 So, but I will say it’s extremely good at, for this use case.
0:12:25 So I’m going to go through the prompts and we’re going to, and by the end of this section, we’re going to have a good idea of, like, what we’re building and all the specs.
0:12:27 And I just signed up for it as we were talking.
0:12:35 Is it, it has all these, like, cool, like, research, data analysis, all these other, like, toggles that I could use.
0:12:37 These, does this cost money or is this free?
0:12:39 Free to use.
0:12:43 Initially, they give you, like, a lot of these, they give you, like, they get you hooked.
0:12:44 They’re, like, drug dealers.
0:12:45 They get you hooked.
0:12:50 And then you have to buy, you know, then you just have to buy credits.
0:12:51 It’s a credit system.
0:12:51 All right.
0:12:52 Okay.
0:12:53 I have an account now.
0:12:54 Yeah.
0:12:56 And by the way, this was invite only up until recently.
0:13:03 So your unfair advantage, like, people listening to this, like, get on this now before everyone finds out.
0:13:04 Well, I looked at their traffic.
0:13:07 It looked like they went live in March because they had, like, zero traffic.
0:13:10 And then in March, they had 23 million site visits.
0:13:11 It’s insane.
0:13:12 Yeah.
0:13:13 Okay.
0:13:13 It’s insane.
0:13:17 So have you heard of Whisperflow?
0:13:18 I feel like I do.
0:13:19 I love Whisperflow.
0:13:22 Whisperflow is my favorite AI tool.
0:13:23 Okay.
0:13:25 So I love Whisperflow, too.
0:13:28 You can use it on a phone and or desktop.
0:13:30 So I literally just.
0:13:35 So Whisperflow, by the way, it’s a, it’s a, I think it might be free, too.
0:13:35 Maybe I paid $100.
0:13:37 But basically, I click a button on my computer.
0:13:42 And anywhere where I would normally be typing, it transcribes what I’m saying.
0:13:45 So I’m just talking all day instead of typing.
0:13:47 Exactly.
0:13:49 So that’s what I did here.
0:13:54 It’s like, I basically did a prompt where it’s like, I’m starting, you took the idea from Idea Browser.
0:13:59 I uploaded the image, and I’m like, I’m starting an agency for LMSEO.
0:14:01 I just basically explained what I’m doing.
0:14:03 I’m not going to go through the full prompt.
0:14:11 But the key here is when you’re doing the initial prompt, don’t forget to say, ask me any questions before you get started.
0:14:13 So we have the right strategy for this.
0:14:20 I’ve noticed that by putting that in there, that small one, you know, one sentence, you’re going to get better output.
0:14:25 So you were talking to it and got the text, and also you attached the image.
0:14:25 Yeah.
0:14:33 You should attach any images or documents that you think are relevant to whatever it is you’re trying to do.
0:14:34 Understood.
0:14:39 And then, so the reply was, this is interesting.
0:14:41 Here’s a bunch of questions that I have to ask before we get started.
0:14:42 Okay.
0:14:43 Yeah.
0:14:46 So, I mean, it asked the right questions, I would say.
0:14:48 Like, who is the target audience for the quiz?
0:14:51 What is the main goal for the person?
0:14:56 What is the key differentiators between traditional SEO and LMSEO?
0:15:02 So, it asks these questions, and then, you know, I use Whisperflow, as you can see.
0:15:03 Like, it’s so casual.
0:15:06 I’m using Whisperflow just to respond.
0:15:08 Okay.
0:15:10 Wow.
0:15:13 So, wow is coming up.
0:15:14 It gets even crazier.
0:15:18 All right, here’s the deal.
0:15:21 If HubSpot tripled the price, I’d be screwed.
0:15:25 The reason I would be screwed is because my entire company is run on HubSpot.com.
0:15:31 My website, my email marketing, my dashboards, how I track my customers, literally everything.
0:15:34 And if they tripled the price, I would pay them more money.
0:15:37 And that’s because the product is so freaking powerful.
0:15:39 My entire company is built on it.
0:15:42 And so, if you’re running a business and you want to grow faster, you want to grow better,
0:15:44 you want to be more organized, check it out, HubSpot.com.
0:15:45 All right, back to the pod.
0:15:52 So, you know, I say things like the ultimate business goal to give them a benchmark for where
0:15:53 they’re ranking in LLMs now.
0:15:58 And then we provide a service for helping them level up their LLM SEO with tools and services.
0:16:00 So, I’m basically giving some more information.
0:16:01 Wait, would you?
0:16:03 And would you ask it to critique the idea?
0:16:04 Oh, yeah.
0:16:06 I do that all the time.
0:16:08 So, you’ll be like, does this make sense?
0:16:09 Or do you think it should be different?
0:16:10 Like, could I just say it?
0:16:14 Like, my goal is to scale to 100 million in revenue in 10 years.
0:16:20 Dude, sometimes I’ll take an idea from Idea Browser, I’ll put it in, and then, you know,
0:16:21 ask it to critique it.
0:16:25 And then, through the conversation with Madness, I’m like, you know what?
0:16:26 I don’t want to do this anymore.
0:16:28 And this is better, you think, than you.
0:16:30 Because I do the same thing with OpenAI, but with my own company.
0:16:35 So, with OpenAI, or ChatGPT, I’ll upload, like, my financials.
0:16:38 I’ll upload, like, a book that I, like, like, for example.
0:16:39 It could be, like, a Warren Buffett book.
0:16:43 And I’ll be like, ask Warren, what would Warren say about this?
0:16:45 How would Warren solve these problems that I’m facing?
0:16:53 Yeah, that’s a really good, actually, hack for using any of these LLMs, is, like, pretend
0:16:55 you’re XYZ person you look up to.
0:16:59 How would, how would, um, would Warren Buffett start this business?
0:17:00 Why or why not?
0:17:03 Would Sean Poorey start this business?
0:17:04 Why or why not?
0:17:09 Yeah, or sometimes I’ll be like, pretend that you’re a BCG or McKinsey consultant.
0:17:14 And you’re, like, cold-hearted and all about operations.
0:17:19 Explain to me how that personality type would execute on this problem or whatever.
0:17:21 Yeah, that’s a good hack.
0:17:23 People should definitely do that.
0:17:25 Okay, so, uh, Madness is awesome.
0:17:29 But you’re saying that, Madness, for what you’re doing right now, this is better than
0:17:30 ChatGPT.
0:17:31 Oh, yeah.
0:17:32 It’s, it’s night and day.
0:17:33 It’s actually night and day.
0:17:34 Wow, okay.
0:17:37 So, ChatGPT is not going to do this, for example.
0:17:40 Like, it’s, you know, we’re clarifying some stuff.
0:17:43 It literally creates a to-do list for the project.
0:17:47 This is, like, literally, like, what a project manager, product manager would do.
0:17:49 Uh, okay.
0:17:50 This is insane.
0:17:52 Right?
0:17:54 So, phase one, research and planning.
0:17:55 Clarify quiz objectives.
0:17:58 You know, phase two, question and prompt development.
0:18:00 Create detailed quiz questions.
0:18:03 Draft specific, clear, and actionable questions for each category.
0:18:06 Phase three, validation and finalization.
0:18:08 Validate questions and prompt with users.
0:18:10 And then the delivery.
0:18:13 Report and send quiz materials to user.
0:18:15 Provide the finalized quiz materials to the user.
0:18:20 It’s basically putting an entire project plan for what I’m doing with Manus right now.
0:18:21 Wow.
0:18:24 I feel like all of my employees need to know how to do all this.
0:18:25 Yeah.
0:18:26 Send this to everyone.
0:18:27 Send this to everyone.
0:18:29 It’s just going to make you a lot more productive.
0:18:31 So, what was the second question?
0:18:33 So, the first thing that you did was you explained the business.
0:18:34 And then what was it?
0:18:35 And then it asked you a bunch of questions.
0:18:37 You answered the questions.
0:18:37 And then what?
0:18:40 So, we got the project plan.
0:18:43 And then it goes and gets to work.
0:18:44 It’s your product manager.
0:18:45 It’s your AI product manager.
0:18:49 And it actually goes and creates the two things that we actually need.
0:18:51 Because, remember, we’re trying to productize.
0:18:58 We’re trying to create, like, essentially a SaaS software to basically score how a company like Hampton
0:19:04 is going to, you know, come out in a LLM, in a chat GPT.
0:19:06 So, we need two things.
0:19:09 We need to, what are the questions that we need to ask the business?
0:19:15 And how do we test on the different LLMs?
0:19:18 And I don’t know how to do that.
0:19:20 So, that’s why we’re going to, we asked Mattis to do it.
0:19:22 And Mattis figured it out for us.
0:19:23 Holy shit.
0:19:32 So, what you’re looking at, Sam, is the quiz detailed questions that we can make as, like,
0:19:34 almost like a type form on our product.
0:19:36 What’s the name of our product?
0:19:38 It’s called LLM Boost.
0:19:38 All right.
0:19:40 So, you go to LLM Boost.com.
0:19:43 And right on the first page, you see, like, a quiz.
0:19:44 And you’re going to start taking that quiz.
0:19:45 Yeah.
0:19:54 We’re going to, and Sam, we’re going to, like, I’m going to actually show you how I vibe-coded it in, like, four minutes.
0:19:56 And we’re going to actually go through that product after.
0:19:56 Okay.
0:19:58 How’s your heart rate right now?
0:20:02 I feel like I’m taking notes.
0:20:07 And I’m like, I need everyone at my company to know exactly how to do this.
0:20:09 And I’m like, do I hire a Greg?
0:20:14 Like, how do I teach all of my, or am I like, do I just have to get good at this and I have to teach everyone?
0:20:19 Like, is my job as the boss just to be, like, teaching people how to use AI?
0:20:20 Is that it?
0:20:22 I don’t think this is something that you can outsource.
0:20:24 Yeah.
0:20:26 So, then you’re saying that I need to get good at this and then I need to teach people.
0:20:28 I mean, unfortunately.
0:20:29 Wow.
0:20:29 Okay.
0:20:30 Yeah.
0:20:35 The unfair advantage and the returns that you’re going to get by understanding these tools is just worth it.
0:20:37 Like, why would you want to outsource it?
0:20:40 Well, because I’m not an expert in it, but I guess I have to become an expert.
0:20:42 But how do you stay on top of all of this?
0:20:44 It’s my job, you know?
0:20:45 It’s my job to stay on top of this stuff.
0:20:46 I know.
0:20:48 But tell me, like, how did you know Manus is awesome?
0:20:49 Because I’m a nerd.
0:20:51 Dude, I’m a nerd.
0:20:53 Dude, that’s such a cop-out.
0:20:55 Like, are you playing on Twitter all day?
0:20:55 Are you in?
0:20:56 Like, what are you doing?
0:21:07 I do have tweet notifications for, like, some creators that I like and that I’m, you know, following everything that’s new that’s coming out.
0:21:11 And I’m also, when I say I’m a nerd, I love playing with the tools, not just, like, reading them.
0:21:13 But you’re just hearing this through word of mouth.
0:21:16 Word of mouth being just, like, just the trades.
0:21:17 You’re reading the trades.
0:21:18 Yeah.
0:21:19 You’re reading the trades.
0:21:20 You know, it’s just the trades.
0:21:23 Is that some, it’s not PC Weekly anymore?
0:21:24 It’s a guy on Twitter.
0:21:33 And then I would say, like, what I like about the podcast, and you probably like this too, is that it’s an opportunity to actually learn in public.
0:21:35 So, I’m just learning in public on the podcast.
0:21:36 All right.
0:21:38 Well, this is cool.
0:21:39 Now what?
0:21:53 So, we got these two quizzes, and exactly, you know, how we can, yeah, we have that, basically, the quiz for the business, and then we have the prompt testing for the LLMs.
0:21:57 But when I went through it, I actually felt that this was too long.
0:21:59 Like, no one’s going to answer a thousand questions.
0:22:03 So, I basically said, is there any way to make the quiz shorter?
0:22:04 It’s a huge quiz.
0:22:11 And then I also, I downloaded a LLM SEO mini course from the vibe marketer.com.
0:22:14 It’s another, you know, whatever, it’s a course.
0:22:17 And I just uploaded the content to make it even better.
0:22:21 Because I was reading, I’m a nerd, and I was reading this stuff.
0:22:28 And I was like, I want to make sure that we have this course and all this content in here.
0:22:34 So, I just, basically, the point here is you can paste anything into here for context, PDFs, documents, and stuff like that.
0:22:35 This was a free course?
0:22:40 This was a paid, I paid, well, it’s a co-founder of mine started this course.
0:22:43 Okay, so you got it for free, but it’s a paid course.
0:22:47 And, is this the thing on school?
0:22:49 It’s the thing on school, yeah.
0:22:50 Okay, got it.
0:22:53 So, it’s 150 bucks, and you got some course, and you put it in there.
0:22:53 Understood.
0:22:56 So, it’s like, thank you.
0:23:02 And then it goes, I’m going to review the transcripts and refine the prompts and the quiz questions.
0:23:06 So, then it goes, my plan, and doesn’t it sound like a human?
0:23:11 My plan is to analyze the transcript you provided to extract key insights relevant to LLM SEO
0:23:16 and how businesses are found in LLMs, and then it’s going to work on the strategies to shorten
0:23:20 and consolidate the quiz, and then it’s going to revise both the quiz questions and the prompt
0:23:21 template.
0:23:27 It’s like such a, it’s so pleasant dealing with an employee like this.
0:23:30 Yeah, it’s going to be like, hey, my grandma died.
0:23:32 I got to go to the funeral in Tampa.
0:23:34 I’ll be back in two weeks.
0:23:36 And then it’s like going to take a 10-day vacation.
0:23:38 Manus takes no vacations.
0:23:39 Oh, okay, cool.
0:23:40 So, it is a great employee.
0:23:44 So, it goes and does it for us.
0:23:47 We’ve got the files to review.
0:23:51 And I want to give away one more tip on Manus.
0:23:53 So, or actually, it works on any LLMs.
0:23:56 So, we talked about this in the beginning.
0:23:58 You know, we’re lazy, right?
0:24:01 So, how do we, I know what I want to do next.
0:24:03 Now that I have the quiz, it’s like, I want to go vibe code.
0:24:04 I want to build this product.
0:24:10 But I need to know what is the best prompt to prompt.
0:24:13 In this case, I’m using Bolt.new.
0:24:20 And so, the best thing you can do is actually ask Manus or ChatGPT, what is the best prompt?
0:24:34 So, I say, can you create a prompt that I can give my AI developer that I would use to generate this landing page with a multi-step funnel that asks the LLM questions, include all the necessary fields that I need to have and have a clean, modern design?
0:24:40 By the way, this is another huge hack, is to ask it the prompt that you should ask it.
0:24:49 It might be the biggest hack of using LLMs, like, well, is ask for the prompt.
0:24:56 You will never be able to out-prompt the person, the guy, you know, the software that sees all the prompts.
0:24:59 I also use Kubera.
0:24:59 Do you know Kubera?
0:25:00 K-U-B.
0:25:01 I use the product.
0:25:02 I love Kubera.
0:25:04 Kubera, I’m not affiliated with it at all.
0:25:10 But I know the founder and it’s like a net worth tracker.
0:25:12 So, it doesn’t, it’s just like mint or whatever.
0:25:13 You can just track all your finances.
0:25:16 And they have an AI ChatGPT integration.
0:25:22 And then I was like, all right, what questions do you think I should ask you on happiness, on life strategy, whatever?
0:25:24 Like, tell me some questions you think I should ask you.
0:25:27 And it gave me a list of all the questions that I should ask it that I never even thought of.
0:25:29 And I started having a conversation with it.
0:25:30 It was really amazing.
0:25:34 And so, asking the LLM what you should ask it is shockingly useful.
0:25:36 Man, brother.
0:25:41 So, we asked it and it does it beautifully.
0:25:46 I’m going to go open it up just to show you what that prompt looks like.
0:25:48 It’s a super long prompt.
0:25:50 So, it goes through the project goal.
0:25:54 It’s like develop a high converting landing page and integrate a multi-step quiz funnel.
0:25:59 And this is the prompt that you’re going to give to Bolt.new, which is the thing that’s going to make the website.
0:26:00 Correct.
0:26:01 Yeah.
0:26:01 Wow.
0:26:02 So, it’s a really long prompt.
0:26:03 Yeah.
0:26:05 Like, really long.
0:26:08 Like, obviously, you and I would have never done this.
0:26:09 Yeah, that would have taken a week.
0:26:12 It’s like writing a term paper.
0:26:13 Look at this, dude.
0:26:15 Yeah.
0:26:16 Wow.
0:26:17 Okay.
0:26:21 All right, folks.
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0:26:30 If you’re trying to grow your business but feel like you’re drowning in buzzwords and BS, then check out the I Digress podcast.
0:26:33 It’s hosted by this guy named Troy Sandage.
0:26:37 He’s helped launch over 35 brands that drive $175 million in revenue.
0:26:41 So, if you want to get smarter about scaling your business, listen to I Digress wherever you get your podcasts.
0:26:42 All right.
0:26:43 Back to the pod.
0:26:50 So, thank you, Mattis and the People’s Republic of China.
0:26:56 And we then move on to a Silicon Valley startup called Bolt.new.
0:27:02 And I will show you how I, one, prompted the website.
0:27:08 And is Bolt.new the same thing as Cursor, Lovable, and all this other stuff?
0:27:14 There’s Bolt.new, Lovable, Cursor, and I mean, there’s a lot of them now.
0:27:18 Winsurf is another one that just, I think, got acquired for $3 billion.
0:27:19 I don’t know if you saw that.
0:27:20 Yeah, I did.
0:27:21 That was the same thing?
0:27:23 Yeah, it’s like a similar thing.
0:27:29 So, Cursor and Winsurf are for more technical people, I would say.
0:27:34 Lovable and Bolt are for non-technical people who want to ship software.
0:27:36 And why do you prefer this one over Lovable?
0:27:39 You know, I started using this first.
0:27:44 I find it, I find the output to be really good, but use whatever works for you.
0:27:44 Understood.
0:27:45 Okay.
0:27:48 So, you typed in or you copied that huge thing in there.
0:27:53 And then I get this web page, okay?
0:27:59 And it says, by the way, I’m not like creating copy here, right?
0:28:02 You know, I’m not doing anything.
0:28:07 I literally one-shotted it and says, your customers are searching for you on LLMs, but you’re not there.
0:28:08 Sad face.
0:28:16 Our free quiz helps you understand your visibility in chat, TPT, perplexity, and other AI models and what to do about it.
0:28:18 Take the free LLM SEO quiz now.
0:28:20 Oh, my God.
0:28:21 Okay.
0:28:22 So, click it.
0:28:24 Sam, your words guy.
0:28:25 Not bad.
0:28:28 This is more than not bad.
0:28:31 Your customers, yeah, I mean, it’s the best.
0:28:35 Sam, humans are the best, but, you know, it’s a close second.
0:28:42 But I like how it says there’s even a testimonial from a CEO of a major internet company.
0:28:43 You want to know something?
0:28:45 I would leave that in there.
0:28:47 Why?
0:28:53 I would just leave it as we’re seeing, here’s the testimonial.
0:29:03 We’re seeing a much higher conversion rate from prospective users coming from organic LLM and traffic versus organic search from the CEO of a major internet company.
0:29:07 I think the CEO of a major internet company has probably said that before.
0:29:11 So, it’s not wrong to keep that in there.
0:29:12 It’s like define major.
0:29:13 Yeah.
0:29:16 A person has said that.
0:29:16 Totally.
0:29:22 I don’t know if they’ve said it about LLMboost.com, but, like, a person has said that for sure.
0:29:24 So, let’s get into the quiz.
0:29:26 So, it creates the quiz.
0:29:28 Wait, so, did you do any work before this?
0:29:30 Because I’m on Bolt.new right now.
0:29:34 It takes, like, a few minutes to make the website if you’re using a free account like I am, right?
0:29:36 I’m pretty sure I have a free account.
0:29:37 Maybe I have a paid account.
0:29:37 Okay.
0:29:41 So, while we were talking, I just said, make a personality quiz website.
0:29:47 And I got a webpage that, like, I just clicked start now.
0:29:48 Right.
0:29:49 And it works.
0:29:50 The website works.
0:29:51 Yeah.
0:29:52 It’s crazy.
0:29:53 It’s absolutely crazy.
0:29:54 Okay.
0:29:55 Awesome.
0:30:02 So, there’s this thing that you can literally just say English to and software comes out of it, which is bonkers.
0:30:06 And so, it says, what type of business do you want to operate?
0:30:08 Let’s just say, like, a service business.
0:30:12 Do you have a website for your – or we can just do, like, you, actually.
0:30:16 We can do – Hampton would be a service business, actually.
0:30:16 Yeah.
0:30:16 Yeah.
0:30:18 Do you have a website?
0:30:19 Yes.
0:30:19 I do.
0:30:21 How often do you publish new content?
0:30:22 Weekly.
0:30:23 Yeah.
0:30:24 Weekly or more often.
0:30:27 What topics does your content typically cover?
0:30:28 How-to guides.
0:30:30 Like, this is relevant.
0:30:31 Let’s go to case studies.
0:30:32 Go to case studies.
0:30:33 Click case studies.
0:30:34 You can click both.
0:30:35 Oh, wow.
0:30:35 Okay.
0:30:39 But before today, how familiar were you with LLM SEO?
0:30:41 Somewhat familiar.
0:30:42 Okay.
0:30:47 Do you use – do you or your team use AI tools like ChatGPT for business?
0:30:47 All the time.
0:30:48 Yeah.
0:30:53 Are your competitors visible in AI search to your knowledge?
0:30:54 I am not sure.
0:30:59 How important is SEO for your business currently?
0:31:00 Somewhat important.
0:31:03 joinhampton.com.
0:31:17 People don’t search CEO communities, but in LLMs, they’ll ask it CEO questions, and it would
0:31:20 be amazing if we were recommended.
0:31:31 Put your name, Sam, car, okay.
0:31:32 Company name Hampton.
0:31:34 Look at this.
0:31:34 Look at this.
0:31:36 Because I want the report.
0:31:36 Oh, look.
0:31:37 They put a little privacy thing.
0:31:41 That’s a small detail that I – that – so –
0:31:45 They should put, like, the Chinese emoji flag at the end, and that’s, like, the symbol for
0:31:45 gotcha.
0:31:47 Totally.
0:31:48 Made in China.
0:31:49 Privacy note.
0:31:50 We respect your privacy.
0:31:55 We’ll only use information – use your information to send you your quiz results and related LLM SEO
0:31:55 information.
0:31:58 We will never share your information with third parties.
0:32:04 This is the little details that if you don’t use Madness or an LLM like that and ask it to
0:32:06 do the prompt for you, you will miss.
0:32:08 Boom.
0:32:12 So, in 24 hours, Sam, you’re going to get a personalized LLM SEO score.
0:32:14 You’re going to get an analysis of your current AI search visibility.
0:32:19 You’re going to get specific recommendations for improvement and additional resources to help
0:32:23 you – to help optimize your business for LLM visibility.
0:32:28 We just built a SaaS in, like, 30 minutes or something.
0:32:30 Well, but it’s not doing – is it going to do the work for me?
0:32:37 It’s not – you have to then hire the person to, like, the consultant.
0:32:41 Like, so who’s going to do a personalized LLM SEO score?
0:32:42 This software.
0:32:43 Wait, what?
0:32:51 Manus created the – all I have to do to get it to – for this to work, all I have to do – so
0:32:53 Bolt has these, like, integrations.
0:32:55 So, let me see my analysis.
0:32:57 Analyze me, baby.
0:33:05 I have to just put in – all I have to do is get a ChatGPT API key and hook it up, and
0:33:07 I’ll give – I can get you your score.
0:33:08 How hard will that be?
0:33:17 In under an hour, you can have ChatGPT analyze the data, and, you know, you would probably want
0:33:20 to have an integration with Supabase.
0:33:22 So, do you know Supabase?
0:33:23 No, dude.
0:33:25 Okay.
0:33:29 So, Supabase is – it’s just – it’s a database.
0:33:32 So, this is just the front end, right?
0:33:37 In simpler English words, I would say it’s just the thing that is showing it.
0:33:42 But you need to hook it up to a database, a place where you can store the data.
0:33:47 And you can also – and if you want to take payments, you’re going to want to add Stripe as well.
0:33:47 What?
0:33:48 Okay.
0:33:53 So, and the way that you would create this report for me is by doing what?
0:34:01 So, in the Manus details, it tells you exactly what we should prompt ChatGPT, perplexity, all that stuff.
0:34:10 And we just need an API key because it will cost money to actually use the intelligence of those LLMs.
0:34:12 But what would we ask ChatGPT?
0:34:20 So, we can actually go back to Manus and see that.
0:34:23 So, here’s the testing.
0:34:33 So, section one, you know, brand and company info prompts to check if an LLM can accurately retrieve basic information about the company and its offerings.
0:34:42 So, if you actually filled – so, if Hampton just – so, it would take your information, your quiz information, and then in company name, it would say Hampton.
0:34:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
0:34:43 Right?
0:34:44 Yeah.
0:34:50 So, it’s going to take all that quiz information, and it’s going to just put it in all these questions.
0:34:57 And then we’re going to have agents basically figure this out for us, and it’s going to output a score.
0:35:00 And the agents would be ChatGPT?
0:35:01 Yeah.
0:35:08 And they would be – I would be asking ChatGPT itself, how does JoinHampton rank?
0:35:08 Yeah.
0:35:12 Well, you’d actually – you would probably – the prompt would be – yeah.
0:35:15 The prompt would be, like, what can you tell me about Hampton?
0:35:20 Then it would – then the output would go to Supabase.
0:35:21 This is getting a bit technical.
0:35:25 But then the output would go to Supabase, and it would say, this is what we learned about Hampton.
0:35:31 And then ChatGPT or OpenAI would say, okay, based on that, it performed well, not well.
0:35:34 You know, we’re going to give it a score of 70 on 100.
0:35:37 And then now you have that score.
0:35:39 So, Supabase is the one that’s giving the score?
0:35:41 Supabase is what stores the data.
0:35:45 OpenAI, ChatGPT is what crunches the numbers.
0:35:49 Manus is what’s given us the questions that we should ask.
0:35:53 And ChatGPT is the one that is analyzing if it ranks well.
0:35:55 And then what would I have to do better to rank well?
0:35:57 That’s a great question.
0:36:04 So, that’s where it’s – you basically send people the report.
0:36:06 And you say, like, you scored really well here.
0:36:07 You didn’t score well here.
0:36:08 We can help you.
0:36:09 Like, that’s the business model.
0:36:14 We can help you, you know, get better LLM SEO.
0:36:16 For $2,000 a month, here’s a package.
0:36:18 For $5,000 a month, here’s a package.
0:36:19 Well, I know.
0:36:21 But if I bought the $2,000 package, what would it be doing?
0:36:25 Oh, it would be 80% – here’s the thing that no one says.
0:36:31 80% of – or 90% of good LLM SEO is just good regular SEO.
0:36:33 So, getting backlinks.
0:36:35 Backlinks.
0:36:44 Another thing that’s really worth doing is in a world where you have tools like Replit – I think you had them on the show – Bolt.
0:36:52 You know, creating calculators and software, that’s also a high-quality signal for a lot of these LLMs.
0:36:53 All right.
0:36:55 This is blowing my mind.
0:37:00 I think the next piece is going to blow your mind even more.
0:37:01 Okay.
0:37:02 Do it.
0:37:06 So, you might be thinking, okay, cool, Greg.
0:37:09 You built something, and it’s a prototype.
0:37:18 But the hardest part about getting a business to $1 million a year in revenue or $2 million a year is getting customers.
0:37:20 How the hell do you get customers?
0:37:25 Well, let’s do what I call vibe marketing.
0:37:30 So, I’m using a tool called Lindy.
0:37:31 Lindy.ai.
0:37:40 Today, we’re going to go through two to three Lindy workflows that you can copy that can help you get you customers on autopilot.
0:37:41 Okay.
0:37:46 So, and I’m showing this – by the way, it’s not even so that you can copy it.
0:37:53 It’s just so that people listening to this in their own businesses and own ideas could be thinking about, okay, how can I use a tool like this?
0:37:55 That’s what I’m doing with all these tools.
0:37:57 You don’t need to use Mattis.
0:37:59 You don’t need to use Bolt.
0:38:00 You don’t need to use Ideabrads.
0:38:01 You don’t need to use Lindy.
0:38:03 But just think like this.
0:38:20 So, this is a flow that I use for our design agency, LCA, that does design for AI interfaces or an AI age that has literally made us millions of dollars.
0:38:23 And it could be used for LLM boost, too.
0:38:25 The way it works is this.
0:38:28 I take my tweets.
0:38:29 I create content on Twitter.
0:38:33 I post it to LinkedIn, okay?
0:38:35 I literally just copy and paste it.
0:38:40 Then, if I have a post on LinkedIn, it looks at who comments and likes it.
0:38:42 Then it puts all that data.
0:38:47 So, Sam Parr might like and comment and say, like, cool, cool post.
0:38:54 It goes into that database, and it gives me data enrichment.
0:39:02 So, I basically, it says Sam Parr, oh, he lives in New York, Hampton, he’s got 5,000 followers, whatever it is.
0:39:05 So, it decides if a lead is qualified or not.
0:39:09 It says, LLM scores the prospect based on zero to five, based on our secret sauce.
0:39:10 It’s a criteria.
0:39:18 If the lead is qualified, we actually get their email and phone number on prospect.
0:39:23 Do you have to have a prospect account?
0:39:26 We have to have a prospect account, yes.
0:39:29 So, it’ll give me your email.
0:39:31 Then, it updates it.
0:39:38 And then, we have a Slack channel that says, Sam Parr, potential customer, just commented.
0:39:45 And for us, like for our business, our average deal size is a million dollars.
0:39:51 So, we’re only trying to find like CEO, look at these, like our list of customers.
0:39:53 Like, it’s the GM of Nike.
0:39:56 It’s the president of Dropbox, right?
0:39:59 And you made content that the GM or whoever liked.
0:39:59 Yes.
0:40:02 And, oh my God, dude.
0:40:04 I am all about it.
0:40:06 I almost didn’t want to share this.
0:40:13 What videos, what video titles do you have that are all about marketing things like this?
0:40:14 All my vibe marketing stuff.
0:40:17 I just did like a presentation on vibe marketing.
0:40:19 I go through like a bunch of workflows.
0:40:20 Watch that.
0:40:20 That’s a good primer.
0:40:21 Start with that.
0:40:22 Oh my God.
0:40:23 Sorry to give you homework.
0:40:25 You’re making me weak at the knees, Greg.
0:40:27 We are nerds, dude.
0:40:29 If this is making us weak at the knees, yeah.
0:40:31 It is.
0:40:34 By the way, the next thing is going to make you like super weak.
0:40:39 Just because I know how much money I have to spend doing this normally and how much work and how tedious it is.
0:40:43 Like, people who have, like, dude, before I literally had a person combing through this.
0:40:45 Like, going through my likes.
0:40:50 I talk to hundreds of founders a week.
0:40:53 And when I talk to founders, everyone says the same thing.
0:40:56 That the one thing they need the most is not funding.
0:40:57 It’s not more resources.
0:40:59 It’s just having more time.
0:41:00 The goal here is to win.
0:41:05 And the way you win is you get yourself free time to do stuff that’s high impact.
0:41:05 How do you do that?
0:41:07 You need to get yourself an assistant.
0:41:09 The best place to go is somewhere.com.
0:41:13 Somewhere sources the best assistance from low-cost areas for you.
0:41:20 So you can get an amazing executive assistant who’s got, you know, business experience and has supported other CEOs for $7, $8, $9, $10 an hour.
0:41:21 And so go ahead.
0:41:22 Go to somewhere.com.
0:41:24 Tell them I sent you.
0:41:25 They’ll hook you up with a good deal.
0:41:26 And get yourself an assistant.
0:41:27 And you can thank me later.
0:41:27 All right.
0:41:28 Back to this episode.
0:41:31 Okay.
0:41:32 So check this out.
0:41:36 So we notify the potential prospects.
0:41:40 And then what happens is we have a salesperson.
0:41:48 If the salesperson hearts the message, it automatically sends them a text message or email.
0:41:49 Wait, hearts?
0:41:49 What does heart mean?
0:41:50 Like heart.
0:41:51 Like a heart.
0:41:53 If they press the X.
0:41:55 I’m asking you how to define something.
0:41:57 And you’re just saying the words over and over again.
0:42:01 So you know the symbol of love?
0:42:02 Yeah.
0:42:03 But where is there a symbol of love?
0:42:04 On LinkedIn?
0:42:05 On Slack.
0:42:06 Wait.
0:42:07 Okay.
0:42:08 So that’s where you’re…
0:42:08 Okay.
0:42:10 So I post something on LinkedIn.
0:42:14 The GM of Salesforce who I want to sell to clicks it and says, you go, Sam.
0:42:15 Or whatever.
0:42:17 You rock, Sam.
0:42:21 I get notified in Slack that he said, you go, girl.
0:42:24 And then someone on my team clicked heart.
0:42:25 And then what?
0:42:29 Then that person gets a personalized email or text message.
0:42:30 Oh, my God.
0:42:31 Yeah.
0:42:32 Insane, right?
0:42:36 What’s the email say?
0:42:38 It’s personalized.
0:42:40 You know, you might get one.
0:42:40 But what’s it say?
0:42:41 I don’t know.
0:42:41 Like, how does the…
0:42:45 Well, it’s like, hey, like, saw that, you know, imagine this, right?
0:42:49 Let’s just use the example of, yeah, we’ll use LCA, like, design agency.
0:42:50 So let’s just say, check out this.
0:42:52 You know, we just designed Dropbox Dash.
0:42:54 It’s an AI version of Dropbox.
0:42:56 And then I noticed that the…
0:43:01 Or it notices that the VP of product of Shopify likes it.
0:43:07 So personalized email goes out and says, hey, Shopify, like, how can we transition Shopify
0:43:09 from a cloud company to an AI company?
0:43:11 I’d love to jam with you on it.
0:43:13 I saw that you liked my post.
0:43:14 That’s crazy.
0:43:15 It’s crazy.
0:43:17 But what’s even crazier is the next thing I’m going to show you.
0:43:20 And I know I keep saying that, but this is going to blow your mind.
0:43:21 It’s a bit more complicated.
0:43:23 So bear with me for a second.
0:43:27 And then I’m going to show you, by the way, I don’t want to forget, I’m going to show you
0:43:29 how you can find some of these workflows.
0:43:31 So what if…
0:43:33 And by the way, both these things we can use for LLM boost.
0:43:39 What if you can have an email negotiator as a AI agent?
0:43:46 So basically, what if you can have someone negotiate on behalf of you automatically using AI?
0:43:48 So hear me out.
0:43:55 Like, for example, if I’m apartment shopping right now, and it could email apartments that I like.
0:43:57 Well, no.
0:44:01 So let’s just say, let’s use the example of LLM boost, just because we were talking about it.
0:44:07 So let’s just say on LLM boost, we created a pricing page.
0:44:13 And it was like, there’s three packages for SEO, $3,000 a month, $5,000 a month, and then contact us.
0:44:16 You know, someone clicks contact us.
0:44:19 They’re like, hey, I’ll pay up front, but I want a discount.
0:44:21 But I want a discount.
0:44:22 No problem.
0:44:27 So we get the email, and then it checks a knowledge base.
0:44:33 So a knowledge base could be anything from, like, Notion, Google Drive, Dropbox, a website even.
0:44:48 And so you do have to do some upfront human work of, like, saying, okay, if someone, you know, contacts us and wants a discount, you know, we won’t go lower than 10% or 15%.
0:44:54 If it finds a response, it automatically responds to the inbound lead.
0:44:57 Now, it gives it an objective.
0:45:08 So the prompt here, you can see on the right-hand side, Sam, the prompt is, your job is to negotiate with the emailer and respond to their questions until a decision is made in regards to the partnership opportunity.
0:45:09 Did you write this prompt?
0:45:12 So Lindy has a template section.
0:45:14 I recommend people go and check them out.
0:45:17 You could actually just copy some of these workflows and prompts.
0:45:20 So it goes, hey, first name, appreciate the interest.
0:45:23 We only discount 10% for fall deals.
0:45:25 And it is our busiest time for collabs.
0:45:26 Let me know what you decide.
0:45:31 You know, keep responses to one to two sentences.
0:45:33 Never make offerings.
0:45:34 So this is insane.
0:45:37 Do all of your employees know how to do all this stuff incredibly well?
0:45:43 I mean, dude, we’re like incubating AI products and have agencies for this stuff.
0:45:43 So yes.
0:45:46 How many employees do you have?
0:45:49 We’re probably like 55, 60.
0:45:55 And if you didn’t have this stuff, how much bigger would it?
0:45:58 Like, I want to know how much you’re saving doing this.
0:46:00 Oh, we’re probably saving.
0:46:09 Well, first of all, we’re doing things at a speed and scale we wouldn’t be able to do with human beings, realistically.
0:46:15 So there’s money that we had left on the table, like millions of dollars a year per year, especially on the LCA side.
0:46:18 Like these big partnerships yield.
0:46:27 Like, it’s so important that you reach out to someone like five minutes, 10 minutes, 25 minutes after they are engaged or else they might even forget about you.
0:46:27 You know what I mean?
0:46:28 Like in that LinkedIn example.
0:46:35 So I would say we’re probably saving $5 million a year plus.
0:46:37 God damn.
0:46:47 Could I just hire, like, are there agencies that I, or I wish that like I had a full-time staff member who just did this stuff, who just audited everything that we do and was like, let’s automate it.
0:46:54 You know, I don’t mean to plug all my stuff, but you can, you can, you can go to boringmarketing.com.
0:46:55 That’s what you guys do?
0:47:00 Like very small, like, I don’t know how many clients, couple, couple dozen clients.
0:47:01 Yeah.
0:47:06 We spend more of our time building software and technology that automates this, but.
0:47:12 I just want you to come on every week and just show me how to do everything like this.
0:47:13 Professor Greg.
0:47:16 So this is kind of cool.
0:47:24 So you can, I don’t know if you know this, Sam, but you can, you can actually use, I call it clode.
0:47:26 People, Americans call it clode.
0:47:27 Actually, everyone makes fun of me.
0:47:29 I call it clode, but you can use clode, clode, clode.
0:47:31 Is that, is that Canadian?
0:47:33 In French, you call it, you just call it clode.
0:47:35 Not, not, not clode.
0:47:36 Not clode.
0:47:36 Okay.
0:47:45 You can use clode to basically call a phone number and have a full on community, you know,
0:47:46 voice conversation.
0:47:48 I’ve been the recipient of those.
0:47:48 I think those are horrible.
0:47:57 They’re 85% there, but it’s worth playing with it because Lindy was like, not it 66 months ago.
0:48:00 It was like 20% there and now it’s closed.
0:48:08 So I, I don’t know if I would use it to, to, you know, reach out to customers, but Sam, this is what you should do.
0:48:10 You create a 1-800 number.
0:48:12 It’s like 1-800 join Hampton.
0:48:16 People call it and you ask for feedback.
0:48:22 So we, you call it, you know, you get feedback and someone says, I had an amazing experience with Hampton.
0:48:23 It was awesome.
0:48:24 And it’s anonymous feedback.
0:48:27 Then it gets stored in a database.
0:48:31 So we store it in Airtable and then we let our team know and summarize.
0:48:37 We summarize the call and this is using Twilio, Airtable, and then we post it to Slack.
0:48:43 So we know every single day we’re getting feedback around what people are saying about some of our products and services.
0:48:44 We should do that for MFM.
0:48:46 You should, 100%.
0:48:47 You should totally do it.
0:48:48 I can build it for you too.
0:48:49 Let’s do it.
0:48:51 I want to build that one sometime.
0:48:56 I want an MFM hotline that people call and can say whatever and we make a segments out of it.
0:48:58 Yeah, easy, easy peasy.
0:49:03 So those are three workflows worth considering.
0:49:08 Now, I have to make mention, there are other tools that you could use besides Lindy.
0:49:12 There’s Gumloop and there’s N8N.
0:49:14 Dude, these names are funky.
0:49:15 Gumloop, Supabase.
0:49:18 These are some like interesting names.
0:49:22 I like things that are really easy to do.
0:49:25 Like I like that there’s templates on Lindy.
0:49:29 I find N8N, N8N is almost like the cursor in Windsurf for Vibe Marketing.
0:49:33 It’s like a bit more, you know, it’s a bit more technical.
0:49:40 So I like Lindy and Gumloop because they’re a bit more simple for guys like us.
0:49:50 You can actually go through and look at all the different templates and workflows that you can go and cut and duplicate if you don’t want to create the flows yourself.
0:49:52 Oh, my gosh.
0:49:53 Okay.
0:49:55 Newsletters into Twitter content.
0:50:00 If you’re, you know, a medical scribe, your custom AI medical scribe.
0:50:16 And by the way, there’s like, I don’t know why people don’t do this, but more people don’t do this, but there’s thousands of $1 million a year plus business ideas just taking Lindy’s and Gumloop’s workflows and just selling it into the real world, right?
0:50:21 Sell a medical scribe to like $299 a month.
0:50:24 Dude, I invested in a startup that’s doing that.
0:50:24 Okay.
0:50:28 I hope the customers don’t see that you can just use Lindy.
0:50:31 Dude, this is a good one.
0:50:32 I haven’t seen this.
0:50:36 Elon Lindy calls your team to ask them what they got done this week.
0:50:38 Oh, my God.
0:50:39 That’s insane.
0:50:40 That’s insane.
0:50:41 This is wild.
0:50:44 Last thing because I know we have to head in a couple.
0:50:52 And I know this is a comment I always get on my podcast where people are like, okay, Greg, but, you know, that’s just a service business.
0:50:54 That’s just a service business.
0:50:57 You just showed us how to like build a service business.
0:51:00 Well, number one, it’s an AI-powered service business.
0:51:02 Like we created SaaS.
0:51:04 But okay, I hear you, commenter.
0:51:06 I hear you.
0:51:16 If we were actually building this business, how can we take it from being a service business to more of a tech business, software business?
0:51:26 So one thing I always do is, you know, if you’re, if you get to step five, you have a business, it’s probably doing hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, if not millions.
0:51:28 And you probably have ideas on where you can take it.
0:51:40 So what I usually do, Sam, is I’ll go back to idea browser and use idea agent and upload an idea I have and just see if it’s good or not.
0:51:43 So, so before this, you know, Ahrefs, right?
0:51:45 I love Ahrefs.
0:51:47 I always call it Ahrefs.
0:51:48 But yeah, I like it.
0:51:50 I don’t actually know how to pronounce it.
0:52:01 So while going through Manus and building this, I was like, it got me thinking that Ahrefs, I think it, do you know how much revenue they’re doing?
0:52:01 Like they’re big.
0:52:06 Yeah, like 80 or 90, like they’re in the $100 million range and it’s bootstrapped.
0:52:08 So incredible business.
0:52:09 Awesome.
0:52:14 But there’s probably an opportunity to create like an AI, like an Ahrefs for LLM SEO.
0:52:15 Yeah.
0:52:17 And there’s probably that niche.
0:52:19 And I think SEMrush, they’re publicly traded too.
0:52:22 SEMrush also has like a, is a competing product.
0:52:30 So I just went on idea browser, posted my, I was like, well, you know, give me a breakdown.
0:52:34 SEMrush is like a $450 million a year business.
0:52:34 Oh, wow.
0:52:35 Yeah.
0:52:38 So it’s like, if you can get 1% of that, 5% of that, 10% of that.
0:52:45 So I just went and I looked at some, you know, some of the data here and it tells me exactly what I should do.
0:52:48 So it tells me exactly what my offer should be.
0:52:49 It tells me my pricing.
0:52:52 I like looking at like the value equation.
0:52:58 So like I mentioned the perceived, you know, the Alex Hermosi stuff, the value ladder.
0:53:00 This is Russell Brunson.
0:53:07 Like if we were going to create an AI version of Ahrefs, what would this look like?
0:53:10 Well, we’d want to create an interactive SEO audit tool.
0:53:10 Great.
0:53:11 We’ve already created that.
0:53:13 We would want to create a starter plan.
0:53:14 Okay.
0:53:15 $99 a month.
0:53:18 And it literally just tells you exactly what to do.
0:53:22 Well, but you’re skipping a big thing, which is you have to build the software.
0:53:26 Like you’re telling me to create the monthly plan.
0:53:27 It’s like, yeah, okay.
0:53:29 I could accept that money.
0:53:35 But how do I create the thing that crawls the web and tells me how many backlinks I have?
0:53:37 That’s the old way of thinking, Sam.
0:53:39 You used to have to create.
0:53:40 What’s the new way?
0:53:42 You used to have to go and create it.
0:53:49 If you think that AI Ahrefs is a good idea, you literally go back and you repeat all the steps.
0:53:52 But are you overselling this?
0:53:58 Like, can I actually have Bolt.new, whatever it’s called, make all of the code that creates?
0:54:06 Like, there must be a reason why Ahrefs has 300 developers on staff, or they did up until this was all invented, at least.
0:54:10 But like, you know, there is like proprietary things there, right?
0:54:14 I mean, the short answer to your question, actually, is Bolt, lovable.
0:54:17 That’s a good place to get your front end.
0:54:19 Build something simple.
0:54:32 Once you’re ready to scale it, using tools like Cursor, Replit, Windsurf, which are more technical, you know, developers today are using those products, and they’re 10x developers.
0:54:34 It’s just so much faster.
0:54:38 So, listen, I’m not saying it’s as easy as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
0:54:38 It’s hard.
0:54:40 Building a startup is hard.
0:54:41 It’s a roller coaster.
0:54:43 There’s going to be things that you learn.
0:54:48 But the reality is, this is the framework for how to build it.
0:54:50 And you can build it using tools like this.
0:54:52 I’m hyped.
0:54:52 I’m hyped.
0:54:56 I was telling Ahre, I messaged her in the middle of this episode.
0:55:01 I said, schedule, Greg, another time to come on right now, because my mind is blown.
0:55:03 This is absolutely insane.
0:55:05 Did you message her?
0:55:09 Or did you do some, like, Neuralink agent to message her?
0:55:11 Like, was it a workflow that you had created in the past?
0:55:15 Brother, I am a Neanderthal.
0:55:16 I’m not there yet.
0:55:19 Like, I literally messaged my team.
0:55:23 I said, I have some mind-blowing stuff to show you.
0:55:24 I’m calling you in 20 minutes.
0:55:25 Mind-blowing.
0:55:28 And I took screenshots of that, Lindy.
0:55:31 And I’m just going to say, we must do this immediately.
0:55:32 This was amazing.
0:55:33 Amazing.
0:55:34 Well, I’m happy.
0:55:35 That was the goal.
0:55:42 My goal was to share some sauce, get you thinking, hopefully not piss off your team
0:55:42 too much.
0:55:46 But I think they’re going to come out of the other side of this way more productive.
0:55:48 You’re the man.
0:55:52 Greg, I call your YouTube channel just the Greg Eisenberg YouTube channel, but it’s the Startup
0:55:53 Ideas channel, right?
0:55:56 Or Startup Ideas show on the Greg Eisenberg YouTube channel.
0:55:57 Exactly.
0:55:59 Thank you.
0:56:00 You’re the best.
0:56:00 Thank you for having me.
0:56:01 This was awesome.
0:56:01 That’s it.
0:56:02 That’s the pod.
0:56:05 I feel like I can rule the world.
0:56:07 I know I could be what I want to.
0:56:10 I put my all in it like no days off.
0:56:11 On the road, let’s travel.
0:56:12 Never looking back.
0:56:17 All right.
0:56:21 So when my employees join Hampton, we have them do a whole bunch of onboarding stuff.
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