Mom Advice: 10 Life Lessons from Mom (Greatest Hits)

0:00:05 Here’s an oldie but a goodie from the archives from the Side Hustle Show Greatest Hits Collection.
0:00:09 What’s up? What’s up? Nick Loper here. Welcome to the Side Hustle Show because
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0:00:21 special Mother’s Day edition of the show for you this week featuring 10 bits of advice and wisdom
0:00:29 from mom. The dad advice episode we did last June for Father’s Day was a lot of fun and it was pretty
0:00:35 popular so I’m going to attempt to revisit that format today just with mom providing the often
0:00:41 very literal advice and me over analyzing it 30 years later. That Father’s Day episode was number
0:00:48 393 if you want to go back and check it out. So first a little bit about mom for the sake of context
0:00:55 here. She essentially had two careers the first in nursing and the second as a library assistant
0:01:00 where she actually helped me get one of my first jobs getting paid to reshelve books. This is like
0:01:07 the perfect introvert gig plus it paid time and a half on Sundays which was like 12 or 13 bucks an hour
0:01:15 pretty good high school job. But mom encouraged both work and work ethic at an early age both in my
0:01:22 brother and I by her own example and by setting expectations. More on that in a bit. But mom’s
0:01:27 probably always been my biggest advocate and supporter even if the online business models that
0:01:31 I was playing around with weren’t always easy to explain to her friends like oh I think he sells
0:01:37 shoes on the internet I don’t know he seems to be doing okay. You know how bloggers always joke about
0:01:43 like the early days of their blog when it’s only their mom reading? Those are not jokes those are 100%
0:01:48 true and it’s not only that she would leave comments and I’d want to say well that’s fine just don’t put
0:01:53 your last name or don’t put mom in the name field like make it look legit. So here we go 10 lessons
0:02:00 from mom that stand out and have stuck with me over the years. Number one is to keep reading and to keep
0:02:06 writing. My brother and I you’ll hear from Chris in a minute you know we watched our fair share of TV
0:02:11 and we played our fair share of video games but reading for pleasure was always encouraged and was
0:02:17 really expected. But beyond that there was this unspoken balance of consumption and creation and
0:02:21 what I found was that by reading and learning and taking in different styles and perspectives
0:02:29 you become more creative. Like when I listen to other podcasts or read other authors I find what I like
0:02:34 and what I don’t like oh what literary device did they use there and I’m often finding inspiration
0:02:40 during quote-unquote consumption time. But for mom it wasn’t enough to be a passive consumer. We had this
0:02:46 stack of construction paper and crayons and markers in the desk in the kitchen and we turned that into all
0:02:51 sorts of projects. I remember we were making pilgrim costumes and treasure maps and making up our own
0:02:57 games. When I said I didn’t like the new Sonics logo she said okay make a better one. And I think writing
0:03:03 is probably one of the most underrated skills in the world today because so much of our communication
0:03:08 it happens over email or you know maybe you need to make a good impression on your resume or your
0:03:13 LinkedIn profile or you need to persuade someone to join your email list or to buy your product
0:03:17 or you just need to create a piece of content that Google thinks is good enough to rank on the first
0:03:22 page. It’s all writing and it’s a skill that can be learned but it’s a skill that takes practice
0:03:29 and I’m really grateful that mom encouraged both Chris and I to keep writing. Yes we got plenty of
0:03:34 practice in school but we’d come up with stories that weren’t part of any school assignment. I remember
0:03:40 one from probably first grade about three dinos. Couldn’t spell dinosaur at that time so they were just
0:03:47 dinos. They were named Ken, Alvin, and Jose after some you know popular baseball players circa 1989.
0:03:53 I don’t remember the plot of the story but it was just an early example of writing for fun. A habit
0:03:58 that continues today only you know I’m lucky enough to get paid to do it now. And I think this is a big
0:04:04 deal and that’s why I put it at number one. The easy path is to keep consuming this endless social media
0:04:11 feed but dedicate some time to your own creation. Doesn’t have to be writing but make something. What do you
0:04:16 want to be known for? What are you going to put out into the world? One of the questions that I asked
0:04:22 myself before starting Side Hustle Nation was when someone googles you what do you want them to find?
0:04:28 So that was mom advice number one. Keep reading. Keep writing. Number two is if you’re not in it it’s just a
0:04:32 postcard. Back in the day you might be old enough to remember this. You didn’t have a camera on your
0:04:38 phone. Instead you took pictures with an actual camera with actual film. Yes pre-digital camera.
0:04:43 And then when the role was used up might be next week might be three months from now you had to
0:04:47 take it to the place and get it developed. Super delayed gratification. I remember that picture
0:04:54 and the feedback mom gave me upon developing one of those roles of film of mine was you know what if
0:05:00 you’re not in it it’s just a postcard. I don’t remember what those pictures were of only apparently
0:05:05 that I wasn’t in them and that was something that stuck with me both on the literal level and on the
0:05:10 metaphorical level. If you’re ever fortunate enough to find yourself at the Great Wall or
0:05:16 Anchor Wand or Stonehenge or the Eiffel Tower or the Pyramids or wherever know that there have been
0:05:21 thousands of professional photographers who’ve been there before you with just the right light and just
0:05:26 the right equipment and they’ve gotten a better shot than you could really ever realistically hope
0:05:32 to achieve. But they don’t have you. Get in the picture. So in all my projects the ones that have had
0:05:37 the most success are the ones that I signed my name to instead of the ones where I’ve tried to stay more
0:05:43 you know semi-anonymous behind the scenes. They’re the ones that I stepped into the picture for and of
0:05:48 course just about every business under the sun has been done before and if it hasn’t maybe that’s a
0:05:54 risky sign you better go and validate it first but it hasn’t been done by you with your unique
0:05:59 perspectives and personality with your unique strength and your style. Just last week we heard from
0:06:05 Jade Weatherington who said that she’d had people rip off her lessons and her curriculum and she said
0:06:12 they can copy her but they can’t be her. You can be your own unique selling proposition and competitive
0:06:18 advantage. If you’re not in it it’s just a postcard. Mom lesson number three is be able to follow the
0:06:25 instructions but doing it your own way is allowed too. This is a lego building example as in yes you can
0:06:30 build the thing you can follow the steps you can make it look like the one in the picture and yes
0:06:35 that’s fun. That’s important to be able to pay attention to the details all of that but now you got
0:06:42 all these pieces what else could you make? And I feel like we spent a lot more time building off script in
0:06:49 that way. So our oldest is five now little hustler number one. He’s super into legos and I think it’s
0:06:53 really cool that he’s got this part figured out. He calls it imagination legos where he just builds
0:06:59 something of his own creation. Pterodactyls, spaceships, boats, all sorts of cool stuff. The reason I think
0:07:06 this parallels entrepreneurship is that yes you should absolutely take advantage of the case studies and
0:07:13 examples and recipes and mentorship of all the people, all the businesses that have gone before you. And in some
0:07:18 ways it would be kind of silly not to. Like why reinvent the wheel, right? And a lot of this stuff is free. I
0:07:24 remember our chat with Donald Spann last year who built and sold a virtual receptionist company.
0:07:30 All remote. What was interesting was he said he would listen to interviews that other call center
0:07:36 founders gave. And I think he specifically mentioned Jill Nelson from Ruby Receptionists.
0:07:41 And he would learn all sorts of details about the inner workings of these companies. It’s also why during
0:07:48 any well-orchestrated affiliate launch, the affiliate manager will give you the formula. Hey, I need you
0:07:53 to send an email on these days. Here’s the swipe copy for day number one. Here’s the swipe copy for
0:07:59 day number two. It’s because they’ve seen what works. And so while I think it’s wise to pay attention to
0:08:05 what’s working and what has worked, it’s okay to do an imagination build too. And remember imagination
0:08:10 Legos. Just because for some of the challenges you come across, there’s not always going to be
0:08:15 instructions. It’s similar to the postcard bit. Inject yourself into the project as a point of
0:08:21 differentiation. And with any luck, you’ll be the case study that other people turn to look to you for
0:08:26 inspiration in the future. So be able to follow the instructions, but doing it your own way is allowed
0:08:33 too. That was a bit of mom advice number three. Number four is to send your thank you notes. So we had two
0:08:38 Aunt Margaret’s growing up and for our birthdays, Chris and I, they would send us a birthday card
0:08:44 with a check and one Aunt Margaret would send a $15 check and the other Aunt Margaret would send a $2
0:08:50 check. And looking back, you know, how sweet is that, right? But we weren’t allowed to cash those checks
0:08:54 and we definitely weren’t allowed to spend any of that money until the thank you notes were written.
0:08:59 And I understand it’s a polite thing to do and it’s maybe becoming a little bit of a lost art,
0:09:06 but it was number one, a way to practice writing again, right? And number two, a way to instill
0:09:12 gratitude. Even as a kid, when writing thank you notes was kind of a chore, it made you think that these
0:09:18 people took some time out of their day to send you a card and to send you some money. They care about you.
0:09:24 Be grateful that you have these people in your life. And while you’re at it, maybe you have some other stuff
0:09:29 to be thankful for too. I’ve been gratitude journaling off and on for probably close to 10 years at this
0:09:35 point, which is like a mini thank you note every night, no matter how bad a day goes, no matter how
0:09:43 challenging it is, I find this to be a pretty helpful nightly reset. Just a little reminder. Okay, it’s not
0:09:48 all bad. And this is actually one of the five primary habits that I’ve got baked into my progress journal,
0:09:54 physical productivity journal, which you can find at progress journal.net. So write those thank you
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0:12:21 Mom lessons number five and number six come from my brother, Chris, who you can find writing about living
0:12:26 your best life. And he also offers habit coaching at becomingbetter.org.
0:12:34 I’ve got two bits of wisdom from mom that I’d like to share. The first one is people like mixtapes. Now
0:12:39 this concept will be a little foreign to younger listeners, but when I grew up, we listened to cassette
0:12:45 tapes in the car. And there was a time around fourth grade that I got really into Billy Joel. I would
0:12:51 constantly listen to his albums on the record player in our living room. And mom realized that I would
0:12:56 appreciate having a mixtape of my favorite Billy Joel songs for the car. So she made one for me.
0:13:01 And of course, I loved it. For side hustlers, the lesson here is that there’s a lot of value in
0:13:07 curating. Not that many people want to listen through all of Billy Joel’s albums, but loads of people want
0:13:12 the greatest hits. So if you can sift through a large collection of ideas and organize the best of
0:13:18 them into a website, a book, or a course, people will really appreciate that and pay you for it.
0:13:23 Nick does that with things like the traffic course.com. And it’s something I’ve done with articles
0:13:29 like the one I wrote on the essentials of stoicism. The second bit of mom wisdom I’d like to share is
0:13:36 do the easy part first. One thing I always did with mom growing up was jigsaw puzzles. And some of the
0:13:41 puzzles we did were really big and really difficult, but mom had a strategy for handling the challenge.
0:13:47 Start with the outline and then work on the easiest parts of the puzzle. The lesson for everyone,
0:13:52 and especially for side hustlers working on complicated projects is that a difficult task feels
0:13:58 more doable once you get started. Once you knock out the easy parts and make an outline, the project that
0:14:05 initially felt overwhelming becomes manageable. Plus, moving forward creates momentum. So instead of feeling
0:14:11 stuck or feeling lazy, you’ll actually feel motivated to continue. This is an essential strategy for overcoming
0:14:16 procrastination. By beginning with the easiest part, you make it easier to get rolling.
0:14:25 I like this curation example. And there are tons of examples in the online business space where you can
0:14:31 see it in action. I mean, in one sense, every interview that you hear on this show is one form
0:14:36 of curation because it made it through versus the 25 pitches that didn’t. And I’ve started creating custom
0:14:44 playlists on Spotify that showcase specific business models to hopefully eliminate some of that overwhelm of,
0:14:49 there’s 400 episodes. Where do I start? Another curation business model I’m excited about right now is email
0:14:55 newsletters. You might have noticed that I’ve started doing this at the bottom of my newsletters, highlighting
0:15:02 two or three cool tools or articles that I found interesting over the last week. But curated newsletters are really
0:15:08 cool because if you could source the most interesting or helpful articles in your niche and do it on a daily or weekly
0:15:14 basis, you help cut through the clutter for all your subscribers. One of my new favorites here is called all star
0:15:19 money. This is an example from the personal finance space where every day they’re sending out three unique
0:15:26 articles from the personal finance universe. They’re well thought out. They’re interesting. I don’t know. I like it all star
0:15:34 money. But as the audience grows, the other reason that these curated newsletters are interesting to me is, you know,
0:15:41 they can be monetized with relevant advertising or affiliate offers or even products or services of your
0:15:47 own creation. You can check out my chat with Cody Sanchez in episode 419 for a little bit more on the
0:15:53 newsletter business. That’s on how she grew in monetized contrarian thinking. So that was mom advice.
0:15:59 Number five, curation is creation. And yes, it is a valuable service. Number six was doing the easy
0:16:07 part first. And this is kind of the counter argument to Brian Tracy’s eat that frog, which argues, do the
0:16:12 most difficult thing first, get it out of the way. There’s, I think, a time and a place for both, especially
0:16:18 if you’re prone to procrastination. You know, maybe you just need to rip off that bandaid. I’m curious,
0:16:24 though, which way do you prefer to work? I tend to default to doing the easy stuff first to build some
0:16:30 positive momentum like Chris described. And in my case, maybe that’s outlining an article instead of
0:16:35 staring at the blank screen and trying to come up with an intro. But once that’s done, once the outline
0:16:39 is done, the article kind of starts to write itself, you start filling in the gaps. And next thing you know,
0:16:46 you’ve made some some meaningful progress. But big thanks to Chris for sharing those curate and do the
0:16:52 easy part first. Again, you’ll find him at becoming better.org. The next bit of mom advice was one we
0:16:59 actually talked about as well, Chris and I, and that’s number seven, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound
0:17:05 of cure. Chris’s example was that developing good brushing and flossing habits is a lot cheaper than
0:17:11 paying for cavities. But I actually remember another bathroom related example that had to do with our aim
0:17:16 around the toilet. Mom was sick of cleaning up the bathroom when we were kids. So the first thing she
0:17:22 did was delegate that chore to us. Look, it’s your job now. When we decided it wasn’t much fun either.
0:17:27 She said, well, you know what, it would be a lot easier if you didn’t miss so much. So after that,
0:17:32 we got a lot more careful with our aim, you know, preventing the problem from happening in the first
0:17:37 place. When I worked in the car business, there was a rule in the service department to call your
0:17:43 customers before they called you. Like if a customer had their car in the shop for some maintenance or
0:17:50 repair, make sure to give them updates and progress reports and cost details as it goes along before
0:17:55 they call you at 445, right before closing time to ask, hey, is this ready to get picked up? Or they
0:18:00 get this surprise bill when they do show up. It was a way to prevent upset customers and manage
0:18:06 expectations. In online business, you see lots of examples of this ounce of prevention in practice,
0:18:15 from FAQ pages to detailed sizing information and pictures like of the products, or even with advertising
0:18:22 copy that says specifically who the product is the best fit for, and maybe who it’s not for. All of that is
0:18:29 designed to prevent the more expensive, quote, cures of customer support staff, of processing returns,
0:18:35 or just working with a client who’s not well aligned with what you have to offer. So your homework here is
0:18:42 to take a look at the messages or questions that you get from customers, readers, subscribers. Are there
0:18:48 any patterns? What could you do to prevent some of those messages? Now I want to be clear, I am happy to
0:18:54 hear from readers and listeners. I love it. Most of the time it makes my day. But there are certain messages
0:19:00 that are frustrating for both parties, like, hey, where’s my file? Or how can I update my email? So I put
0:19:05 together a special VIP page where subscribers can access all the bonus files, don’t have to punch in
0:19:11 your email again. And I send that out to new subscribers after they join the email list. You can
0:19:16 check it out, sidehustlenation.com slash join. You can see it in action. It should be there, you know,
0:19:21 10-15 minutes after you sign up. And then I added a little link at the bottom of the newsletter that
0:19:27 lets people update their account information in ActiveCampaign. And I think once you start looking,
0:19:33 you’ll find lots of different ways to apply this ounce of prevention rule. Maybe it’s creating text
0:19:38 expander snippets for stuff you type all the time. Maybe it’s creating process documentation for your
0:19:43 team. But that was mom advice number seven, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
0:19:51 Mom lesson number eight is, is that really what you want to spend your money on? I credit both mom and
0:19:58 dad for instilling this habit of lifelong frugality, or maybe spending intentionally is maybe a better way
0:20:03 to phrase it. But it was mom who helped, you know, count out the coins from my Garfield piggy bank and
0:20:09 open up my first savings account. She was the one who’d play allowance the board game with us. And one of the
0:20:16 first things I remember saving up for as a kid was to buy this skateboard. And it was probably first grade,
0:20:22 second grade. It was 28 bucks at Toys R Us. There was one with a cooler pattern for $36, but I didn’t have
0:20:28 that much. And we’re standing there in the aisle and she asks, okay, is that really what you want to spend your
0:20:33 money on? And if you thought it was a dumb idea, which you probably did, I don’t think that was
0:20:40 detected by me. Instead, what came across was, yes, you can get this. You understand how much it costs.
0:20:45 You understand how much money you have. And is that worth it to you? And at the time it was, I remember
0:20:50 my friend pulling me up and down the street behind his bike on that thing. But on countless other
0:20:55 occasions, the answer was no, I’d rather save for something else. There’s nothing wrong with spending
0:21:01 money. In fact, that’s kind of the point of earning it, but to make sure it’s on the things that you
0:21:06 really want and value. Just because you can afford something doesn’t necessarily mean that you should
0:21:13 buy it. I also think there’s something about giving kids autonomy with money early on, freedom to make
0:21:19 what you might consider a mistake on a small scale. So they learn what it feels like to spend, what it feels
0:21:25 like to save. And hopefully, maybe they don’t make bigger money mistakes later on. So that was lesson
0:21:30 number eight for me. Is that really what you want to spend your money on? Number nine is to have high
0:21:38 expectations and hold yourself accountable. I was the kid who stressed out about school and grades a lot
0:21:44 more than I probably should have. And mom swears this was self-inflicted, but I don’t know, we definitely
0:21:50 didn’t want to disappoint her. So in middle school, I started to hear these rumors and rumblings that some
0:21:55 of my friends were getting paid for their grades, like their parents would give them 20 bucks for every
0:22:01 A and $10 for every B or something like that. I was like, I could be making money. And I can’t tell you
0:22:09 how fast this proposal was shot down by mom and dad when I floated it by them. Why reward what’s expected,
0:22:15 I think was the reaction. Do your best because of who you are and care about the effort you put out
0:22:20 into the world, not because you think you’re going to get paid for it. Great report card. Now go do it
0:22:26 again next semester. Have high expectations for yourself was number nine. Number 10 is I hope you
0:22:32 dance. And this was mom’s advice upon graduating high school, which was actually lyrics from a song that was
0:22:39 medium popular around that time by Leanne Womack. This was really before my country music kick, but it
0:22:43 was still all over the radio. You couldn’t miss it. I don’t think I can play it for you for copyright
0:22:48 reasons, but it opens like this and I’m not going to try and sing it. Opening lines. I hope you never
0:22:53 lose your sense of wonder. You get to eat your fill, but always keep that hunger. And in rereading the lyrics
0:23:00 in preparation for this episode, I can tell why she gave it to me. This is a really heartfelt sendoff
0:23:07 from any parent to any child, the kind that I probably wasn’t capable of appreciating at 18 and
0:23:15 maybe even not 28, but certainly do now after having kids of my own. It’s a call to be grateful for what
0:23:22 you’ve got, but to keep growing, to have the strength to get through the challenges ahead and to have some
0:23:28 fun along the way. So thank you for that, mom. Love you. Hopefully lots of years of dancing still to
0:23:35 come. Now I asked her what advice she got from her mom. And even though she had zero desire to be on air,
0:23:41 she was a good sport. She did send me this clip. After much thought and consulting my siblings, it turns
0:23:47 out mom wasn’t big on giving advice. We weren’t often told you can’t do something, but we were told to try
0:23:53 and mom would be there to pick up the pieces when it didn’t work out. So I guess mom’s advice would be
0:24:00 don’t be afraid to try. I think that clocked in at 18, 19 seconds. Definitely not one to seek the
0:24:06 spotlight, but there you have it. Be open to trying new things. The side hustle show is a great example
0:24:11 of me trying something new and it is turning eight years old this month. Hard to believe, but you never
0:24:17 know until you try. And I know I’m at my happiest when I’m experimenting and trying new stuff. For
0:24:24 example, I’m testing a new email challenge slash welcome series with a little one-time offer on the
0:24:28 confirmation page for the first time ever. This took an embarrassing amount of brain power to create,
0:24:33 but was also a lot of fun. I’m excited to see what kind of results it gets because if you don’t test,
0:24:39 if you don’t experiment, if you don’t try, you’ll never know. But mom, appreciate all the encouragement
0:24:44 and wisdom over the years. And thank you so much for tuning in. That is it for me. Until next time,
0:24:48 let’s go out there and make something happen. And I’ll catch you in the next edition of the Side
0:25:04 Hustle Show. Hustle on. Did you know Mother’s Day is coming up? Yeah. What should we get for mama?
0:25:13 I’m thinking card. Card would be nice. Or a car? A car? Yeah. I don’t know about that. What kind of
0:25:21 car would mommy like? A car that could turn into a submarine or a plane. That’s very versatile for
0:25:24 sure. Or we could just build one. Or we could build one. What would you build it out of?
0:25:32 Metal. Metal, sure. Or we need to buy pieces. Yeah, it probably would require a lot of pieces.
0:25:40 Let’s go back to the card idea. What would you write in the card for mama? A joke. A joke? Tell a good,
0:25:46 what’s a good Mother’s Day joke? Knock, knock. Who’s there? Em. Em who? Oh, I’m a mother.
0:25:53 All right. I don’t know if I get that one, but what’s Mother’s Day all about? You give mother
0:26:00 something. Is it like birthdays for moms? Mm-hmm. Trying to be thankful for all the things that
0:26:07 they do for us? Yeah. Yeah. What kind of stuff does mama do for you? Uh, cook a dinner. Yeah,
0:26:11 she’s a good cook. She makes you good food. Mm-hmm. Uh, what else? Rocking us before bedtime.
0:26:20 Rocks you to sleep. Yeah. What does mama do for work? Uh, work on the phone, type on the computer,
0:26:28 which is so boring. What else? She practices making some laser beams. Where did she go? At the end of
0:26:35 the freeway. The end of the freeway? Yeah. What type of building is it? A laboratory. She works at the
0:26:43 laboratory. What do you think they have there? Laser beams. What else? Sauce. Laser beams and
0:26:49 saws? I don’t really know. Saucers? Saucers? It’s a top secret place. How else does mommy make money?
0:26:57 Take pictures. That’s right. Taking pictures. Who does she take pictures of? People. Taking pictures
0:27:01 of people. That’s right. Because landscapes don’t write checks. We call that our side hustle. Do you know
0:27:06 what a side hustle is? No. Well, now you do. It’s something extra that you do to make money.
0:27:13 Work? Yeah. Extra work. I think I know a good job I could do. Yeah. If you needed to make money,
0:27:19 what would you do? I could keep mice out of the attic. Keep mice out of the attic? Yeah. That’s
0:27:25 definitely a legit job. Like rodent proofing, for sure. Yeah. I could put security systems. Oh,
0:27:32 security system? For a mouse. Okay. So I’d put some cheese in the attic tied to a string and then the
0:27:38 mice would eat the cheese. They would like bring the cheese to their house, but then it would pull
0:27:44 the string and then the net would go on. Okay. I feel like there’s an old board game like that.
0:27:50 What’s your favorite game to play? Uno. The game that never ends. Uno can go on for a long time.
0:27:55 Remember that time where we played with grandma and grandpa and all grandma had good greens?
0:28:03 Yeah. And it lasted like almost half the night, right? It lasted for a long time. People were trying
0:28:09 to help you win. I had something else I was going to ask you and then I forgot. What was it? It was,
0:28:13 oh, are you excited for kindergarten? Yes. What’s going to happen at kindergarten?
0:28:18 I don’t know. Me neither, man. It’s been a long time since I was in kindergarten.
0:28:25 My kindergarten teacher was Mrs. Rockwell. That’s weird. Do you think she likes rocks?
0:28:32 Maybe so. I can find some pretty cool rocks. Diamond-shaped ones. That’s for sure.
0:28:36 Yeah. White ones. White ones. Do you think you can ride a school bus to kindergarten?
0:28:40 Yeah. Yeah? How are you going to know where to go?
0:28:43 Go where? And once you get to the school, it’s a big place.
0:28:50 I just look around first. Just look around. Somebody will probably be like a, uh, that looks
0:28:56 like a confused kindergartner. Right this way, sir. What’s your name? I look like a confused…
0:29:02 Well, I bet most of the people who first got there were pretty confused. That’s right. You won’t be
0:29:07 the only one. Yeah. If you had a kid, what kind of advice would you give them? I don’t know.
0:29:13 What kind of advice does mama give you? Be a good listener. Be a good listener. What else?
0:29:18 Be nice to Gray. Yes. Be nice to brother, for sure. She’s mostly trying to help you,
0:29:22 you know, grow up to be a good human, you know? Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. You want to be done
0:29:25 with this? Yeah. Okay. All right. Thanks, dude.