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0:01:14 Hi everyone, I’m Brené Brown and I’d love to tell you about a new series that’s launching on Unlocking Us.
0:01:17 I’m calling it the On My Heart and Mind podcast series.
0:01:23 It’s going to include conversations with some of my favorite writers on topics ranging from revolutionary love and gun ownership
0:01:26 to menopause and finding joy and grief.
0:01:29 The first episode is available now and I can’t wait for you to hear it.
0:01:34 All new episodes will drop on Wednesdays and you can get them as soon as they’re out by following Unlocking Us on Apple
0:01:37 or wherever you listen to your podcasts.
0:01:43 I’m Scott Galloway and this is No Mercy, No Malice.
0:01:46 Why don’t we fix our immigration problem?
0:01:47 Easy.
0:01:49 It’s too profitable.
0:01:52 Unserious People, as read by George Hahn.
0:02:05 The best marketers in the world are tobacco companies, tech companies, universities and
0:02:07 the Republican Party.
0:02:14 The GOP primarily represents the wealthiest 1% of Americans and corporations, yet manages
0:02:20 to get about 47% of the vote because people will support reducing the top marginal tax
0:02:24 rate, hoping they’ll someday benefit.
0:02:29 The Democratic brand is less powerful, as they’re often guilty of being correct and
0:02:31 ineffective.
0:02:36 Voters prefer mendacious and strong versus well-meaning and weak.
0:02:42 Biden is likable, yet under his watch, taxes on corporations went down and women lost their
0:02:44 right to bodily autonomy.
0:02:50 Note, I realize SCOTUS had something to do with it.
0:02:56 Two years ago the governors of Texas and Florida started sending detained undocumented immigrants
0:03:02 to bastions of the Democratic establishment, including New York City and Martha’s Vineyard.
0:03:07 Many progressives, including myself, were appalled at the weaponization of vulnerable
0:03:13 people, but it was a genius PR move on the part of the GOP.
0:03:20 Similarly, in February, Donald Trump commanded his acolytes in Congress to kill a bipartisan
0:03:25 foreign aid and immigration bill that would have, among other things, provided funding
0:03:31 for border barriers and enforcement personnel and, given the Department of Homeland Security,
0:03:34 the power to close the border to asylum seekers.
0:03:35 Why?
0:03:41 Trump, like most politicians before him, is more interested in politicizing the issue
0:03:44 than addressing it.
0:03:48 The former president claims that he brought illegal immigration to its lowest level in
0:03:54 history — he didn’t — that a large share of immigrants are coming to this country from
0:04:02 prisons and mental hospitals — no proof of that — and that Democrats have signed “illegals”
0:04:08 up to vote in large numbers in our elections — again, false.
0:04:13 Then there are the claims regarding Haitian immigrants dining on dogs and cats and Venezuelan
0:04:15 gangs taking over Colorado.
0:04:20 In Springfield, they’re eating the dogs, the people that came in, they’re eating
0:04:27 the cats, they’re eating the pets of the people that live there.
0:04:31 And this is what’s happening in our country, and it’s a shame.
0:04:36 Not happening, but it would make an awesome episode of The Last of Us.
0:04:42 I’d like to believe these campfire tales about immigration would hurt Trump, but they likely
0:04:45 help his campaign.
0:04:51 The sensational — i.e. bullshit — captures the attention of the media and the algorithms,
0:04:55 which square the spotlight on immigration.
0:05:00 So Trump is lying, but Harris then needs to explain why after four years of her and Joe
0:05:05 Biden, fentanyl is still flowing through our ports and over our borders.
0:05:09 And we still have undocumented immigrants crowding into shelters, schools, and emergency
0:05:14 rooms in border towns and cities across the country.
0:05:19 Arizona Senator Mark Kelly summarized the issue well.
0:05:26 The GOP is insincere about immigration, and the Democrats don’t understand it.
0:05:31 The immigration debate is intellectually dishonest — again, why?
0:05:37 Simply put, the upside of illegal immigration outweighs the downside.
0:05:41 Illegal immigration is a good problem.
0:05:46 Twenty years ago, I was renovating a house.
0:05:51 I needed to finish the basement, but didn’t have the money to build a proper man cave.
0:05:55 Just a livable space with some built-ins.
0:05:57 But nobody would take the job.
0:06:03 The two quotes I managed to secure were more than the down payment on my first home.
0:06:07 When I asked to meet with one of the subcontractors, he was a no-show.
0:06:13 Finally, my general contractor and I drove to a local 7-Eleven, where several people
0:06:15 rushed his truck.
0:06:21 The GC asked them some questions in Spanish, and six guys jumped in the back.
0:06:26 These men, each one with a different skill, worked around the clock, only taking breaks
0:06:29 to make design suggestions.
0:06:30 They weren’t just laborers.
0:06:37 They were craftsmen, skilled, hard-working, conscientious, and reasonable.
0:06:39 Were they taking American jobs?
0:06:44 No, as there were no Americans willing to do these jobs.
0:06:47 Take this times two million.
0:06:51 Pew estimates there are 12 million undocumented workers.
0:06:57 And you get the scale of what is likely the most agile, inexpensive, and effective labor
0:07:00 force in the world.
0:07:07 Construction, hospitality, health care, big egg, big chicken, and big beef all rely on
0:07:10 this flexible workforce.
0:07:15 Once in a while, an industrial chicken packing plant is raided for employing people without
0:07:19 papers, but those are mostly for show.
0:07:24 We haven’t wanted to fix this problem in any real way as we make a shit ton of money
0:07:25 from it.
0:07:31 These are the most profitable immigrants in history, and the people who profit from them
0:07:34 are all of us.
0:07:40 Yes, there are instances of crime, and waves of migrants do tax our social services.
0:07:49 But again, every day, we decide it’s worth it by doing nothing.
0:07:55 The political discussion of the issue has become dominated by myths and misleading tropes.
0:08:01 One of the biggest is that crossing the southern border on foot is how most undocumented immigrants
0:08:03 come into the country.
0:08:10 Actually, 50% or more of the people here illegally fly into the country with a work visa and
0:08:13 then overstay their visa.
0:08:17 No border wall is going to be high enough to keep them out.
0:08:21 We’ve made the border synonymous with illegal immigration.
0:08:22 It’s not.
0:08:28 The wall is just a logo, not a serious attempt to fix the problem.
0:08:33 Another myth is that undocumented people take jobs from Americans and don’t contribute
0:08:35 to the economy.
0:08:42 Way back in the ’70s, conservative economic icon Milton Friedman, a fan of free trade and
0:08:50 open borders, observed that unrestricted Mexican immigration to the U.S. is a net good thing.
0:08:54 As long as it stays illegal.
0:08:59 Immigration is the secret sauce of the U.S. economy.
0:09:05 Estimates vary, but researchers have estimated that all immigrants, legal and undocumented,
0:09:13 contribute about $3.3 trillion to the U.S. economy annually.
0:09:18 That’s as much as 17% of our GDP.
0:09:23 These illegals are paying into social security, and most of them will never see a dime of
0:09:25 it.
0:09:30 To be clear, illegal immigration is an issue that warrants a serious response.
0:09:37 Friedman in 1977 said U.S. employers and consumers were happy to reap the benefits of an undocumented
0:09:44 workforce as long as the costs, housing, social services, healthcare, crime, remained low.
0:09:51 Now, however, many believe we may be at or past the point where the strain of accommodating
0:09:55 these new arrivals has become too high.
0:10:01 Ask anybody who lives in Eagle Pass, Texas, or Sweden.
0:10:06 Another myth that’s often invoked as part of the debate, however, is that undocumented
0:10:11 immigrants commit crimes at a higher rate than permanent residents.
0:10:17 Whenever an immigrant, here illegally or not, is involved in a serious accident or implicated
0:10:22 in a crime, politicians jump all over it.
0:10:26 Historically, though, immigrants have committed crimes and been incarcerated at significantly
0:10:32 lower rates than U.S.-born citizens.
0:10:37 The economic dynamics behind illegal immigration and our collective lack of will to do anything
0:10:41 about it are pretty simple.
0:10:47 If for whatever reason good or bad we wanted to put a stop to illegal immigration, it wouldn’t
0:10:49 be that hard.
0:10:54 We could also easily eliminate some of the worst aspects of social media by imposing
0:11:00 age gates if we were serious about that problem.
0:11:06 We focus on the supply side of the equation, which is largely a waste of time.
0:11:12 Lots of people around the world believe, correctly, that they and their families will live healthier,
0:11:16 happier, and more prosperous lives in the U.S.
0:11:26 We can’t keep drugs out of our prisons, yet we believe we can seal a 5,500-mile-long border.
0:11:30 The fix is on the demand side.
0:11:36 If we want to stop illegal immigration, we need to decrease demand by raising the costs
0:11:39 and enacting real deterrence.
0:11:45 The quickest route to a solution would involve punishing employers, create a biometric database
0:11:51 of documented immigrants, then levy any employer who knowingly hires somebody who’s not on
0:11:55 it with a $10,000 fine.
0:12:00 No restaurant is going to risk getting hit for $50,000 hiring five cooks or dishwashers
0:12:02 without papers.
0:12:09 No chicken processing plant is going to risk a $1 million fine for hiring 100.
0:12:13 This of course will likely not happen.
0:12:18 Too many of the people who employ undocumented workers also employ lobbyists and give significant
0:12:20 money to politicians.
0:12:25 Those politicians are happy to accommodate their backers and exploit the racism and fear
0:12:32 of many Americans by continuing to tell lies about immigration.
0:12:38 I believe one of the keys to healthy relationships and relative harmony is to not inject agita
0:12:44 (argue, get upset, etc.) when the stakes are low.
0:12:49 To not create disharmony where there isn’t a real problem.
0:12:55 Yes, illegal immigration is a real problem, but why let it divide us when neither side
0:13:00 seems genuine about fixing it or even having an honest discussion?
0:13:05 I believe we will have immigration reform once the perception of the problem appears
0:13:10 to eclipse the benefits of our existing hush-hush system.
0:13:13 And maybe that time has come.
0:13:18 The fix will need to come in the middle of the election cycle.
0:13:23 The issue is too easy for politicians to demagogue when they’re campaigning.
0:13:28 Again, if we’re serious about the issue, why was the legislation presented during an
0:13:32 election year?
0:13:38 The biggest benefit of illegal immigration has been love.
0:13:49 A 2018 study by the Migration Policy Institute estimates 13% of child care workers are undocumented,
0:13:55 and almost a third of home health care workers are immigrants.
0:14:03 The New American Economy Research Fund reported in 2020 that approximately 280,000 undocumented
0:14:10 immigrants work in the U.S. healthcare system, many in support and caregiving roles.
0:14:15 These workers often fill critical gaps in the caregiving workforce, particularly in
0:14:21 roles that are challenging to fill owing to low wages, demanding conditions, or the lack
0:14:25 of domestic workers willing to take on these jobs.
0:14:30 Their contributions are significant, but their undocumented status can also lead them lacking
0:14:36 access to many worker protections and vulnerable to exploitation.
0:14:42 A knee-jerk reaction taken from the fascist handbook of demonizing immigrants, like mass
0:14:49 deportations, detention camps, would have a devastating effect on the U.S.
0:14:55 It would be inflationary and reduce the compassion millions of undocumented workers bestow on
0:14:58 our children and the elderly.
0:15:07 Punishing immigrants could be the U.S. version of Brexit, a self-inflicted injury.
0:15:13 There is a cartoon of an undocumented worker criminalizing his way across the nation, carrying
0:15:18 a backpack of fentanyl, stopping to dine on your cocker spaniel.
0:15:27 A more accurate depiction is a person who keeps our costs lower, is vulnerable to exploitation,
0:15:34 and cares for your kids and parents when you aren’t able.
0:15:36 Life is so rich.
0:15:46 [Music]
0:15:55 [BLANK_AUDIO]
0:00:05 I’m a carpenter.
0:00:06 I’m a graphic designer.
0:00:09 I sell dog socks online.
0:00:12 That’s why B.C.A.A. created one size doesn’t fit all insurance.
0:00:15 It’s customizable, based on your unique needs.
0:00:19 So whether you manage rental properties or paint pet portraits,
0:00:23 you can protect your small business with B.C.’s most trusted insurance brand.
0:00:29 Visit bcaa.com/smallbusiness and use promo code radio to receive $50 off.
0:00:30 Conditions apply.
0:00:32 Support for PropG comes from NerdWallet.
0:00:36 Starting your credit card search with NerdWallet, smart.
0:00:38 Using their tools to finally find the card that works for you,
0:00:42 even smarter, you can filter for the features you care about.
0:00:47 Access the latest deals and add your top cards to a comparison table to make smarter decisions.
0:00:52 And it’s all powered by the Nerds’ expert reviews of over 400 credit cards.
0:00:59 Head over to nerdwallet.com/learnmore to find smarter credit cards, savings accounts, mortgage rates, and more.
0:01:01 NerdWallet, finance smarter.
0:01:06 NerdWallet Compare Incorporated, NMLS 1617539.
0:01:14 Hi everyone, I’m Brené Brown and I’d love to tell you about a new series that’s launching on Unlocking Us.
0:01:17 I’m calling it the On My Heart and Mind podcast series.
0:01:23 It’s going to include conversations with some of my favorite writers on topics ranging from revolutionary love and gun ownership
0:01:26 to menopause and finding joy and grief.
0:01:29 The first episode is available now and I can’t wait for you to hear it.
0:01:34 All new episodes will drop on Wednesdays and you can get them as soon as they’re out by following Unlocking Us on Apple
0:01:37 or wherever you listen to your podcasts.
0:01:43 I’m Scott Galloway and this is No Mercy, No Malice.
0:01:46 Why don’t we fix our immigration problem?
0:01:47 Easy.
0:01:49 It’s too profitable.
0:01:52 Unserious People, as read by George Hahn.
0:02:05 The best marketers in the world are tobacco companies, tech companies, universities and
0:02:07 the Republican Party.
0:02:14 The GOP primarily represents the wealthiest 1% of Americans and corporations, yet manages
0:02:20 to get about 47% of the vote because people will support reducing the top marginal tax
0:02:24 rate, hoping they’ll someday benefit.
0:02:29 The Democratic brand is less powerful, as they’re often guilty of being correct and
0:02:31 ineffective.
0:02:36 Voters prefer mendacious and strong versus well-meaning and weak.
0:02:42 Biden is likable, yet under his watch, taxes on corporations went down and women lost their
0:02:44 right to bodily autonomy.
0:02:50 Note, I realize SCOTUS had something to do with it.
0:02:56 Two years ago the governors of Texas and Florida started sending detained undocumented immigrants
0:03:02 to bastions of the Democratic establishment, including New York City and Martha’s Vineyard.
0:03:07 Many progressives, including myself, were appalled at the weaponization of vulnerable
0:03:13 people, but it was a genius PR move on the part of the GOP.
0:03:20 Similarly, in February, Donald Trump commanded his acolytes in Congress to kill a bipartisan
0:03:25 foreign aid and immigration bill that would have, among other things, provided funding
0:03:31 for border barriers and enforcement personnel and, given the Department of Homeland Security,
0:03:34 the power to close the border to asylum seekers.
0:03:35 Why?
0:03:41 Trump, like most politicians before him, is more interested in politicizing the issue
0:03:44 than addressing it.
0:03:48 The former president claims that he brought illegal immigration to its lowest level in
0:03:54 history — he didn’t — that a large share of immigrants are coming to this country from
0:04:02 prisons and mental hospitals — no proof of that — and that Democrats have signed “illegals”
0:04:08 up to vote in large numbers in our elections — again, false.
0:04:13 Then there are the claims regarding Haitian immigrants dining on dogs and cats and Venezuelan
0:04:15 gangs taking over Colorado.
0:04:20 In Springfield, they’re eating the dogs, the people that came in, they’re eating
0:04:27 the cats, they’re eating the pets of the people that live there.
0:04:31 And this is what’s happening in our country, and it’s a shame.
0:04:36 Not happening, but it would make an awesome episode of The Last of Us.
0:04:42 I’d like to believe these campfire tales about immigration would hurt Trump, but they likely
0:04:45 help his campaign.
0:04:51 The sensational — i.e. bullshit — captures the attention of the media and the algorithms,
0:04:55 which square the spotlight on immigration.
0:05:00 So Trump is lying, but Harris then needs to explain why after four years of her and Joe
0:05:05 Biden, fentanyl is still flowing through our ports and over our borders.
0:05:09 And we still have undocumented immigrants crowding into shelters, schools, and emergency
0:05:14 rooms in border towns and cities across the country.
0:05:19 Arizona Senator Mark Kelly summarized the issue well.
0:05:26 The GOP is insincere about immigration, and the Democrats don’t understand it.
0:05:31 The immigration debate is intellectually dishonest — again, why?
0:05:37 Simply put, the upside of illegal immigration outweighs the downside.
0:05:41 Illegal immigration is a good problem.
0:05:46 Twenty years ago, I was renovating a house.
0:05:51 I needed to finish the basement, but didn’t have the money to build a proper man cave.
0:05:55 Just a livable space with some built-ins.
0:05:57 But nobody would take the job.
0:06:03 The two quotes I managed to secure were more than the down payment on my first home.
0:06:07 When I asked to meet with one of the subcontractors, he was a no-show.
0:06:13 Finally, my general contractor and I drove to a local 7-Eleven, where several people
0:06:15 rushed his truck.
0:06:21 The GC asked them some questions in Spanish, and six guys jumped in the back.
0:06:26 These men, each one with a different skill, worked around the clock, only taking breaks
0:06:29 to make design suggestions.
0:06:30 They weren’t just laborers.
0:06:37 They were craftsmen, skilled, hard-working, conscientious, and reasonable.
0:06:39 Were they taking American jobs?
0:06:44 No, as there were no Americans willing to do these jobs.
0:06:47 Take this times two million.
0:06:51 Pew estimates there are 12 million undocumented workers.
0:06:57 And you get the scale of what is likely the most agile, inexpensive, and effective labor
0:07:00 force in the world.
0:07:07 Construction, hospitality, health care, big egg, big chicken, and big beef all rely on
0:07:10 this flexible workforce.
0:07:15 Once in a while, an industrial chicken packing plant is raided for employing people without
0:07:19 papers, but those are mostly for show.
0:07:24 We haven’t wanted to fix this problem in any real way as we make a shit ton of money
0:07:25 from it.
0:07:31 These are the most profitable immigrants in history, and the people who profit from them
0:07:34 are all of us.
0:07:40 Yes, there are instances of crime, and waves of migrants do tax our social services.
0:07:49 But again, every day, we decide it’s worth it by doing nothing.
0:07:55 The political discussion of the issue has become dominated by myths and misleading tropes.
0:08:01 One of the biggest is that crossing the southern border on foot is how most undocumented immigrants
0:08:03 come into the country.
0:08:10 Actually, 50% or more of the people here illegally fly into the country with a work visa and
0:08:13 then overstay their visa.
0:08:17 No border wall is going to be high enough to keep them out.
0:08:21 We’ve made the border synonymous with illegal immigration.
0:08:22 It’s not.
0:08:28 The wall is just a logo, not a serious attempt to fix the problem.
0:08:33 Another myth is that undocumented people take jobs from Americans and don’t contribute
0:08:35 to the economy.
0:08:42 Way back in the ’70s, conservative economic icon Milton Friedman, a fan of free trade and
0:08:50 open borders, observed that unrestricted Mexican immigration to the U.S. is a net good thing.
0:08:54 As long as it stays illegal.
0:08:59 Immigration is the secret sauce of the U.S. economy.
0:09:05 Estimates vary, but researchers have estimated that all immigrants, legal and undocumented,
0:09:13 contribute about $3.3 trillion to the U.S. economy annually.
0:09:18 That’s as much as 17% of our GDP.
0:09:23 These illegals are paying into social security, and most of them will never see a dime of
0:09:25 it.
0:09:30 To be clear, illegal immigration is an issue that warrants a serious response.
0:09:37 Friedman in 1977 said U.S. employers and consumers were happy to reap the benefits of an undocumented
0:09:44 workforce as long as the costs, housing, social services, healthcare, crime, remained low.
0:09:51 Now, however, many believe we may be at or past the point where the strain of accommodating
0:09:55 these new arrivals has become too high.
0:10:01 Ask anybody who lives in Eagle Pass, Texas, or Sweden.
0:10:06 Another myth that’s often invoked as part of the debate, however, is that undocumented
0:10:11 immigrants commit crimes at a higher rate than permanent residents.
0:10:17 Whenever an immigrant, here illegally or not, is involved in a serious accident or implicated
0:10:22 in a crime, politicians jump all over it.
0:10:26 Historically, though, immigrants have committed crimes and been incarcerated at significantly
0:10:32 lower rates than U.S.-born citizens.
0:10:37 The economic dynamics behind illegal immigration and our collective lack of will to do anything
0:10:41 about it are pretty simple.
0:10:47 If for whatever reason good or bad we wanted to put a stop to illegal immigration, it wouldn’t
0:10:49 be that hard.
0:10:54 We could also easily eliminate some of the worst aspects of social media by imposing
0:11:00 age gates if we were serious about that problem.
0:11:06 We focus on the supply side of the equation, which is largely a waste of time.
0:11:12 Lots of people around the world believe, correctly, that they and their families will live healthier,
0:11:16 happier, and more prosperous lives in the U.S.
0:11:26 We can’t keep drugs out of our prisons, yet we believe we can seal a 5,500-mile-long border.
0:11:30 The fix is on the demand side.
0:11:36 If we want to stop illegal immigration, we need to decrease demand by raising the costs
0:11:39 and enacting real deterrence.
0:11:45 The quickest route to a solution would involve punishing employers, create a biometric database
0:11:51 of documented immigrants, then levy any employer who knowingly hires somebody who’s not on
0:11:55 it with a $10,000 fine.
0:12:00 No restaurant is going to risk getting hit for $50,000 hiring five cooks or dishwashers
0:12:02 without papers.
0:12:09 No chicken processing plant is going to risk a $1 million fine for hiring 100.
0:12:13 This of course will likely not happen.
0:12:18 Too many of the people who employ undocumented workers also employ lobbyists and give significant
0:12:20 money to politicians.
0:12:25 Those politicians are happy to accommodate their backers and exploit the racism and fear
0:12:32 of many Americans by continuing to tell lies about immigration.
0:12:38 I believe one of the keys to healthy relationships and relative harmony is to not inject agita
0:12:44 (argue, get upset, etc.) when the stakes are low.
0:12:49 To not create disharmony where there isn’t a real problem.
0:12:55 Yes, illegal immigration is a real problem, but why let it divide us when neither side
0:13:00 seems genuine about fixing it or even having an honest discussion?
0:13:05 I believe we will have immigration reform once the perception of the problem appears
0:13:10 to eclipse the benefits of our existing hush-hush system.
0:13:13 And maybe that time has come.
0:13:18 The fix will need to come in the middle of the election cycle.
0:13:23 The issue is too easy for politicians to demagogue when they’re campaigning.
0:13:28 Again, if we’re serious about the issue, why was the legislation presented during an
0:13:32 election year?
0:13:38 The biggest benefit of illegal immigration has been love.
0:13:49 A 2018 study by the Migration Policy Institute estimates 13% of child care workers are undocumented,
0:13:55 and almost a third of home health care workers are immigrants.
0:14:03 The New American Economy Research Fund reported in 2020 that approximately 280,000 undocumented
0:14:10 immigrants work in the U.S. healthcare system, many in support and caregiving roles.
0:14:15 These workers often fill critical gaps in the caregiving workforce, particularly in
0:14:21 roles that are challenging to fill owing to low wages, demanding conditions, or the lack
0:14:25 of domestic workers willing to take on these jobs.
0:14:30 Their contributions are significant, but their undocumented status can also lead them lacking
0:14:36 access to many worker protections and vulnerable to exploitation.
0:14:42 A knee-jerk reaction taken from the fascist handbook of demonizing immigrants, like mass
0:14:49 deportations, detention camps, would have a devastating effect on the U.S.
0:14:55 It would be inflationary and reduce the compassion millions of undocumented workers bestow on
0:14:58 our children and the elderly.
0:15:07 Punishing immigrants could be the U.S. version of Brexit, a self-inflicted injury.
0:15:13 There is a cartoon of an undocumented worker criminalizing his way across the nation, carrying
0:15:18 a backpack of fentanyl, stopping to dine on your cocker spaniel.
0:15:27 A more accurate depiction is a person who keeps our costs lower, is vulnerable to exploitation,
0:15:34 and cares for your kids and parents when you aren’t able.
0:15:36 Life is so rich.
0:15:46 [Music]
0:15:55 [BLANK_AUDIO]
As read by George Hahn.
Unserious People
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