The Gray Area with Sean Illing

  • 40 Acres: Reaching reconciliation

    What good are piecemeal reparations? From Georgetown University, where school leadership once sold enslaved people, to Evanston, Illinois, where redlining kept Black residents out of homeownership, institutions and local governments are attempting to take reparations…


  • 40 Acres: The old Jim Crow

    Why slavery? Marxist scholar Adolph Reed argues that Jim Crow — not enslavement — is the defining experience for Black Americans today. Reed recounts his childhood in the segregation-era South in his book The South:…


  • 40 Acres: $14 trillion and no mules

    Paying the price. One of the typical questions asked during conversations about reparations is how to pay for them. Fabiola talks with economist William “Sandy” Darity and folklorist Kirsten Mullen about how reparations could be…


  • 40 Acres: The original promise

    Fabiola Cineas talks with Nkechi Taifa, the founder and director of the Reparation Education Project, about the history of the fight for reparations in America. Though they came to the forefront during the 2020 election…


  • What Clarence Thomas really thinks

    Sean Illing talks with Corey Robin, author of a recent article — as well as a 2019 book — about the life and thought of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Robin discusses how Thomas, whose…


  • Even Better: Don’t call it a budget

    Every Thursday in August, you’ll hear Even Better on Vox Conversations, a special series focused on helping people live better lives individually and collectively. In the fourth and final episode, host Julia Furlan talks with…


  • The quest for authenticity

    Sean Illing talks with Skye Cleary, philosopher and author of the new book How to Be Authentic. The book is an examination of how to live an authentic life through the lens of the life…


  • Even Better: Setting your boundaries

    Every Thursday in August, you’ll hear Even Better on Vox Conversations, a special series focused on helping people live better lives individually and collectively. In the third episode, host Julia Furlan talks with Nedra Glover…


  • Your gut instinct is usually wrong

    Sean Illing talks with former Google data scientist Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, author of Don’t Trust Your Gut. Seth argues that the way we make decisions is wrong, outdated, and based on methods or conventional wisdom that…


  • Even Better: Workplace equality 2.0

    Every Thursday in August, you’ll hear Even Better on Vox Conversations, a special series focused on helping people live better lives individually and collectively. In the second episode, host Julia Furlan talks with author and…