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Episode 73: What’s really holding back the future of AI—and are we truly prepared for what comes next? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) is joined by Mustafa Suleyman (https://x.com/mustafasuleyman), legendary AI innovator, co-founder of DeepMind, former founder of Inflection AI, and now CEO of Microsoft AI, where he’s leading the massive Copilot transformation.
This episode unpacks the myths around AI’s “training wall,” whether hallucinations are actually a feature instead of a bug, the dawn of the agentic era—where AIs don’t just chat, but plan and act for you—and the shifting landscape for software builders as anyone can ship products in minutes. Mustafa also shares firsthand stories and practical advice for leveraging today’s AI—from offloading tasks to agents THIS WEEK, to why moats aren’t about headcount or credentials in the new era.
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Show Notes:
(00:00) AI Insights with Mustafa Suleyman
(03:31) Adapting AI Amid Data Challenges
(07:31) Technology’s Misleading Terminology
(12:16) Tool Use Defines Human Progress
(15:49) Revolutionizing Code with AI Tools
(16:31) Competitive Innovation Boom Ahead
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Mentions:
Mustafa Suleyman: https://mustafa-suleyman.ai/
Microsoft AI: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/ai
DeepMind: https://deepmind.google/
Inflection: https://inflection.ai/
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