The Next Wave – AI and The Future of Technology
Episode 88: What happens inside OpenAI when Google drops a game-changing AI model? Matt Wolfe ((https://x.com/mreflow) and Maria Gharib (https://uk.linkedin.com/in/maria-gharib-091779b9) break it down.
This episode unpacks OpenAI’s unprecedented “Code Red,” the real reason Sam Altman hit the panic button, and how Google’s Gemini 3 and Nano Banana Pro could threaten OpenAI’s dominance. The hosts debate which next-gen AI models are actually smarter (Claude Opus 4.5, Gemini 3, GPT-5.1, and more), why some tools are getting dumber, and how Google’s full-stack advantage is shifting the AI power balance. Plus: a rapid-fire review of explosive new AI tools for video, the rise of creative AI (and AI “slop”), surprising advances in wearable tech, and a bit of fun at Sam Altman’s expense.
Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd
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Show Notes:
(00:00) AI Wars: Models, Tools, Power
(05:59) AI Innovation Race
(08:43) OpenAI’s Google Challenge
(12:15) Claude’s Context Window Explained
(14:12) Claude vs. ChatGPT: AI Preferences
(17:13) Anthropic vs. OpenAI Philosophy
(21:51) AI and Content Slop Concerns
(24:46) AI Generative Audio’s Uncanny Gap
(28:07) Runway Gen 4.5 Dominates Preferences
(30:41) AI Model Announcement Rivalry
(35:00 Alibaba’s AI Evolution
(37:19) Heavy Glasses and Social Concerns
(40:03) AI Advancements: December Launches
(42:27) “Like, Subscribe, See You Soon
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Mentions:
Sam Altman: https://blog.samaltman.com/
Google Gemini 3: https://aistudio.google.com/models/gemini-3
Nano Banana Pro: https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/
Claude Opus 4.5: https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
NotebookLM: https://notebooklm.google/
Runway Gen 4.5: https://runwayml.com/research/introducing-runway-gen-4.5
Kling: https://klingai.com/global/
Midjourney: https://www.midjourney.com/home
Get the guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/tnw
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Check Out Matt’s Stuff:
• Future Tools – https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
• Blog – https://www.mattwolfe.com/
• YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow
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Check Out Nathan’s Stuff:
Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/
Blog – https://lore.com/
The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

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