The Next Wave – AI and The Future of Technology
Get Matt’s AI Playbook: https://clickhubspot.com/rku
Episode 99: What happens when a leading AI company takes a stand against the U.S. government’s demands? Join Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) and Joe Fier (linkedin.com/in/joefier) as they break down Anthropic’s showdown with the Pentagon—and the price of saying no to mass surveillance and autonomous weapons.
This episode dives into the high-stakes standoff between Anthropic (creators of Claude) and the U.S. government. Matt and Joe explain why Anthropic’s refusal to loosen its AI’s ethical guardrails could get them blacklisted as a supply chain risk, and what that unprecedented move means for the entire tech industry. They cover the implications for national security, the tech world’s role in military decisions, the Pentagon’s shifting alliances with other AI labs, and what it means when Silicon Valley CEOs and government officials are at odds. Plus, they demo the latest AI tools—like Google’s Nano Banana 2—and dissect the present and future of AI-powered agents and automation, from Perplexity Computer to BK’s new “Patty” assistant.
Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd
—
Show Notes:
(00:00) Anthropic, AI, and Pentagon Tensions
(05:30) AI Tools & Military Decisions Debate
(06:51) Pentagon Targets Anthropic as Risk
(10:01) Anthropic’s Exclusive Government Access
(14:07) AI Amplifying Government Surveillance Concerns
(16:44) AI Safety: Shared Goals, Different Paths
(23:05) Nano Banana 2: Faster Images
(23:48) Nano Banana 2: Enhanced Generation
(27:15) Struggling to Achieve 4K
(30:01) Gemini Settings and Performance
(33:46) AI Testing and Limitations
(36:45) Trump Blacklists Anthropic AI
(41:57) Crazy Viral Videos Recap
(45:07) Nano Banana 2: Free Everywhere
(46:49) Cloud-Based Model Switching
(49:15) AI Agents Expand Capabilities
(52:50) Burger King Employee Monitoring Tech
(56:35) Politeness Tracker’s Future Impact
(58:43) Unfiltered Updates and Insights
—
Mentions:
Joe Fier: https://www.instagram.com/joefier/
OpenClaw: https://openclaw.ai/
Manus: https://manus.im/
Nano Banana 2:https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/technology/ai/nano-banana-2/
Perplexity:https://www.perplexity.ai/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/app
Cursor: https://cursor.com/
Get the guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/tnw
—
Check Out Matt’s Stuff:
• Future Tools – https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/
• Blog – https://www.mattwolfe.com/
• YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow
—
Check Out Nathan’s Stuff:
Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/
Blog – https://lore.com/
The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano
This Free Tool Turns AI Prompts Into Designer-Level Sites
Want better outputs from AI? Get our free Prompt Engineering guide: https://clickhubspot.com/cnj Episode 69: Why do so many AI-generated websites end up looking generic—and how can you use “vibe coding” to stand out with truly…
Inside Google’s AI Lab: Drug Discovery, World AI Model & AlphaEvolve
Want the ultimate guide to Google’s Gemini? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/evt Episode 68: How is Google DeepMind pushing the boundaries of AI to tackle drug discovery, robotics, and even autonomous AI agents? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow)…
How Tom Bilyeu Uses AI + Why He’ll Never Hire Again
Want to Automate your work with AI? Get the playbook here: https://clickhubspot.com/wgk Episode 67: What does the future of hiring and creative work look like in an age where A.I. can replace entire departments? Matt…
How I’m Building a Zero-Employee Business with AI
Want to Automate your work with AI? Get the playbook here: https://clickhubspot.com/wgk Episode 66: Can you really build a zero-employee business with AI? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) sits down with John Rush (https://x.com/johnrushx), founder and self-proclaimed…
What’s Actually Coming in AI (From Someone Building It)
Episode 65: What’s actually coming next in AI, and how will it transform the fundamental infrastructure we rely on every day? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) sits down with DJ Sampath (https://x.com/djsampath), Senior Vice President of AI…
12 INSANE AI Agent Use Cases in Lindy AI (Live Demo)
Episode 64: What if you could hire an AI intern to handle your meetings, emails, CRM, and even negotiate refunds over the phone? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) is joined by Flo Crivello (https://x.com/Altimor), founder of Lindy…
Turn Your Idea Into a Working App With One Prompt (Live Demo)
Episode 63: What if you could turn your idea into a fully working app—just by describing it in plain English? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) sits down with Anton Osika (https://x.com/antonosika), CEO of Lovable, a revolutionary platform…
Can AI Help You Live to 170?
Episode 62: Could an AI that knows everything about your health help you live to an extreme age? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) sits down with Max Marchione (https://x.com/maxmarchione), founder of Superpower, to explore the future of…
Microsoft VP Explains AI PCs + Satya Nadella on Healthcare AI
Episode 61: What will the next generation of AI-powered PCs mean for your everyday computing—and how will features like on-device AI, privacy controls, and new processors transform our digital lives? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) is joined…
This AI Tool Can Build Any SaaS App in Minutes
Episode 60: Can you really build an $8 billion SaaS startup by yourself using AI agents? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) sits down with Matan Grinberg (https://x.com/matansf), a physicist, AI founder, and creator of Factory AI—one of…